Thoughts on Occupy Oakland’s Historic General Strike - w photos, videos & blogs - Davey D

Yr allegations that black bloc members and those who tried to occupy the building last Wednesday night are horrible and far from the truth. I expect so much better from you, as I expect more thought from those folks who engaged in the block and the attempted squat later in the night. I expect better journalism out of you and expect you to address such poor writing and such poor research into what actually happened and who did it.

re chuck mcnally, "With all due respect Davey...":

"Yr allegations that black bloc members and those who tried to occupy the building last Wednesday night are horrible..."

Where in Davey's commentary does he say *that*?: Quote *where*.

In fact, Davey points out (see commentary follow-up post, "admin", November 6, 2011 at 8:35 am): "I purposely left out in the article the Occupying of Travelers Aid Building… It was something that Elaine Brown [a fmr Chair of the Black Panther Party] talks about in the intv.. taking over abandoned and foreclosed buildings.." -- and is in his commentary embedded video interview with Elaine Brown.

That doesn't sound like Davey is against people trying to occupy foreclosed, empty/abandoned buildings.

Furthermore, Davey *never once* used the term/appellation/attribution "Black Bloc" in his commentary: he said "masked men dressed in black" -- which is objectively and undeniably true -- an objective fact -- *whomever or whatever* they actually were. That's a pretty high standard of journalist attribution. Davey endeavors to make a point of chosing his words carefully: you have to *read/listen*. If he meant to say "Black Bloc", or hypotheticallly *where* he means to say it (with sufficient factual information), he *would* have.

(The mainstream TV media *did* happen to, and pointedly, say "Black Bloc", but Davey did *not*. And when I used the name in my extended comment posts on violence/vandalism, I still *qualified* my use of the name, when directly and verbally connected to violence/vandalism, by saying, "if that's who they were", or "whomever they were", or "police provocateurs *or* Black Bloc". Otherwise, I've seen the Black Bloc in action often enough to know how they generally function, and what apparently they believe they are doing, apparently acting out *Revolution*, during or after many progressive marches.)

Have you ever heard the saying, "READING IS *FUNDAMENTAL*!"

I know, when I write published commentaries, that I *don't* even like to have comment posts (although I think that such an opportunity are good and useful in Davey's commentary case), and I never agree to let my commentary article publisher post my email address too, because I *hate* dealing with too-so many people who can't seem to be able to *READ*, but claim that I *did* say something that I *didn't*, or that I *didn't* say something that I *did*!

And when such people, even after everything is in print that they can reread as many times as they want to and to make sure they got it straight, happen to be knee-jerk ideologues, know-it-alls, general academics or even professors, or permutations thereof, I *love*, when I even feel like responding to such reading deficients, to use the copy-&-paste function to make, depending on how disrespectful or obnoxious they are, mistakens or perhaps even fools of them in my rebuttals. In this case, chuck mcnally was more respectful in his criticism and consequent *mistakenness*, hypothetically pending his proving otherwise.

You've already left about 10,000 words worth of comments on the original post. Leave some space for others to comment here at least. Step up, step back.

Thank you.

TO: "my goodness", Monday Nov 7th, 2011 3:42 AM:

"You've already left about 10,000 words worth of comments on the original post. Leave some space for others to comment here at least."

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Didn't know you were the comment sections *po-lice* -- but I'm glad that you took *special* notice of me. It's always nice to be *specially* noticed.

Thanks!

But, *whaz'up*, _Mis-ter Comment Section *Po-lice*_?: are you stopping anyone *else* from posting?

Actually, I got a phone call from a heavily involved Occupy Oakland, previously an Occupy Wall Street, activist, and she -- and Davey -- threw me major props on my comments on violence under Davey's actual article.

In case you don't pay much attention to the progressive political scene and literature, writing is one of the things I do!

And I was in the *thick* of it reporting from ground zero in Oakland City Center last Tuesday night, the 25th, for 'Team Davey'. And I did it *last November 5th* in East Oakland from ground zero too for 'Team Davey'.

(I wrote a *lot* of words about that!: put "joseph anderson"+berkeley+"oscar grant march" in any search engine to see. And I wrote about Lovelle Mixon too. Even spoke to his sister! Check out: "joseph anderson"+berkeley+"Karmic Justice--Four Killed Cops"! The best compliment I got was from a middle-aged white woman who simply told me, "It needed to be said." Both commentaries published, in about a half-dozen publications, hard copy and online, and picked up and re-published by various websites, some with iconic, exclusive photos by my politically progressive photojournalist friend Jay Finneburgh, also at ground zero there, with exclusive iconic photos in *both* places.

I'm *humbly honored* to say that I get a lot of compliments, like Davey, not only for my occasional writings but also from my occasional radio guest appearances and other radio comments, from people of *all* 'races'/ethnicities, from *all* double-digit age ranges, from *all* socio-economic neighborhoods, from *all* socio-educational ranges, and even from *all* economic classes -- *except* the 1%.)

Besides, Davey's my *bruh* -- and *I* got his *back*...

An' I'm 'bout ta let 'im *knnnow*!

So, since you obviously have no criticism of the *content* of what I've said, then I'll just move on...

But, THANKS AGAIN! -- for your *SPECIAL* notice...!

Are you a cop anywhere *else*? -- where people wouldn't have known?

Here you go:

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The ‘Karmic Justice’ of Lovelle Mixon’s Act
By Joseph Anderson
Wednesday April 01, 2009 - 09:33:00 PM

This perspective might be very hard for many sociopolitically naive white people to read. But it’s very important to understand the sheer depth of negative feelings that many people of color (even those with no criminal record) have against the police. This is due to lifelong and often unpredictable, almost always potentially life-threatening, negative experiences (from petty to lethal), that they or their loved ones and friends, as people of color, have had from the police.
http://www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2009-04-02/article/32613

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Same-Old-Same-Old from the Corporate Media: the Oakland Justice for Oscar Grant Protests
By Joseph Anderson
Tuesday November 09, 2010 - 09:22:00 PM

I was swept up and arrested Friday night, in Oakland, California, at the "end" of the Justice for Oscar Grant march, on November 5th, 2010. As usual, most of the Bay Area TV stations gave a factually awful -- of course, very pro-police -- spin to what happened. It amazes me how edited and re-chronologized video can make viewers think they are seeing something that they aren't. Events are portrayed out of order, and most TV reporters falsely describe the context of the video clips they show. As in George Orwell's book Nineteen Eighty-Four, about a total propaganda media-controlled society: the lie becomes the truth, and the truth becomes the lie.
http://www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2010-11-10/article/36721?headline=Same-Old-Same-Old-from-the-Corporate-Media-the-Oakland-Justice-for-Oscar-Grant-Protests--By-Joseph-Anderson

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Sorry to hear you got arrested, Joseph. That kind of thing is why I went home at 7 pm on the day of the strike because I knew there'd be chaos and attacks by the police as soon as the crowd thinned below a few thousand.

I saw a post on here speculating about those dressed in black being infiltrated, at the least, but then the post got hidden. Several people were trying to take apart anyone who dared suggest that a group of people openly and repeatedly smashing things and defacing stuff could *ever* be infiltrated or influenced by any infiltrators. So ridiculous -- that's the group by far the most likely to be targeted for infiltration.

Anyway, wish I had time to camp out or even go to GAs, but have to work.

Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back for being so *correct* as *proven* by Mr D's approval.

Okay, now you can rant on, and on and on and on.

Repost comments from there here, here there. Repost comments from one post here to other posts here and back and forth. Comment on your own reposts here and there and everywhere. Comment on comments on reposts. It's all simply fabulous.

Or you could just write one original and coherent article. But that's probably not as fun as the spider web of self-congratulatory self-righteousness that you are spinning now.

Carry on.

i can barely read all yr bs and you just seem to be justifying Davey D's bs too. I'm not gonna spend so much time disecting all that you wrote or all that Davey wrote. I don't think that Davey D is being honest and I don't think his article was even trully factual or based on the reality of what actually happened that night. I am not trying to say something all that malicious. I was just trying to ask Davey D to be the journalist I thought he was. The journalist that would actually do research and not sensationalize things and regurgetate some corporate or political bs. A writer that would not think that he is better than the people, but that writes for the people and doesn't write over their heads or think so highly of his writing that he just keeps babbling on. Especially when that babbling is just not true. So...thank you Joseph from Berkeley...you seem to have helped me make my mind up. A space is a spade. I don't care to read your writing and I don't care to read or listen to Davey D anymore after this article and the response I got from him, and from you.