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Vets Hall Holiday Dinner Announcement
Veterans of Foreign Wars "Bill Motto" Post 5888 announce they are unable to hold Holiday Meals at Santa Cruz County Veterans Memorial Building.
Contact: Timothy McCormick
VFW Post 5888
PO Box 664
Santa Cruz, CA 95061
http://www.vetshall.org
VETERANS OF FOREIGN WARS "BILL MOTTO" POST 5888 PRESS RELEASE
VFW Post announces Thanksgiving and Christmas Dinners canceled.
Closure of Veterans Memorial Building by County impacts popular holiday meals.
Santa Cruz, October 14, 2010: Veterans of Foreign Wars "Bill Motto" Post 5888 today announced that it is unable to hold Thanksgiving or Christmas Dinners, this year, at the Santa Cruz County Veterans Memorial Building.
Speaking for the Post, the Holiday Meals Committee Chairman, Bob Young, said, "We the Bill Motto Post of the VFW regret to announce that our Holiday Dinners, which usually take place on Thanksgiving day, and Christmas day each year for 24 years at the Santa Cruz Veterans Memorial Building will not be held this year . This event has helped the needy people, veterans, seniors, students and lonely residents during holidays which are based in giving..
The Veterans Memorial Building has served as the focal point, and more importantly, the infrastructure of the Holiday Dinners each year. Volunteers and donors of food alike, all know to show up at the Vet's building, and it takes a week or more of logistical juggling of space and time to prepare and then clean up for each dinner. Planning for the meals takes several months.
The County of Santa Cruz, unfortunately, has closed the Veterans Memorial Building to both the veterans, and the general public. This closure has been in place since January 2010. The County of Santa Cruz has not given a definite time line for repair and re-opening of the Veterans Memorial Building and its facilities.
The County closed the building, alleging it is unsafe, a situation which has prompted the United Veterans Council – of which VFW Post 5888 is a part – to bring suit against the County in Superior Court, jury trial is scheduled to commence November 15th. The eviction, and lack of offers by the County for substitute facilities, resulted in a regrettable decline of in services for veterans and the community at large. At the last Post meeting, October 6, the decision was made that the Post is unable to hold the Holiday Dinners, this year.
The media is encouraged to make inquiries to the SC County Board of Supervisors, and the pertinent county departments as to their time line for repairs. We are hopeful that the Vet's Memorial Building will be repaired and re-open in time for the 2011 Holiday Dinners.
The Bill Motto VFW Post 5888 thanks all the volunteers and donors that have made the Holiday Dinners a success over the past two decades. We hope to see you again by Thanksgiving in 2011. The Bill Motto VFW post is currently holding it's meetings at the Louden Nelson Center on the first Wednesday of each month at 7:30 PM. The public is welcome to speak as guests at the first 20 minutes of the meetings."
VFW Post 5888
PO Box 664
Santa Cruz, CA 95061
http://www.vetshall.org
VETERANS OF FOREIGN WARS "BILL MOTTO" POST 5888 PRESS RELEASE
VFW Post announces Thanksgiving and Christmas Dinners canceled.
Closure of Veterans Memorial Building by County impacts popular holiday meals.
Santa Cruz, October 14, 2010: Veterans of Foreign Wars "Bill Motto" Post 5888 today announced that it is unable to hold Thanksgiving or Christmas Dinners, this year, at the Santa Cruz County Veterans Memorial Building.
Speaking for the Post, the Holiday Meals Committee Chairman, Bob Young, said, "We the Bill Motto Post of the VFW regret to announce that our Holiday Dinners, which usually take place on Thanksgiving day, and Christmas day each year for 24 years at the Santa Cruz Veterans Memorial Building will not be held this year . This event has helped the needy people, veterans, seniors, students and lonely residents during holidays which are based in giving..
The Veterans Memorial Building has served as the focal point, and more importantly, the infrastructure of the Holiday Dinners each year. Volunteers and donors of food alike, all know to show up at the Vet's building, and it takes a week or more of logistical juggling of space and time to prepare and then clean up for each dinner. Planning for the meals takes several months.
The County of Santa Cruz, unfortunately, has closed the Veterans Memorial Building to both the veterans, and the general public. This closure has been in place since January 2010. The County of Santa Cruz has not given a definite time line for repair and re-opening of the Veterans Memorial Building and its facilities.
The County closed the building, alleging it is unsafe, a situation which has prompted the United Veterans Council – of which VFW Post 5888 is a part – to bring suit against the County in Superior Court, jury trial is scheduled to commence November 15th. The eviction, and lack of offers by the County for substitute facilities, resulted in a regrettable decline of in services for veterans and the community at large. At the last Post meeting, October 6, the decision was made that the Post is unable to hold the Holiday Dinners, this year.
The media is encouraged to make inquiries to the SC County Board of Supervisors, and the pertinent county departments as to their time line for repairs. We are hopeful that the Vet's Memorial Building will be repaired and re-open in time for the 2011 Holiday Dinners.
The Bill Motto VFW Post 5888 thanks all the volunteers and donors that have made the Holiday Dinners a success over the past two decades. We hope to see you again by Thanksgiving in 2011. The Bill Motto VFW post is currently holding it's meetings at the Louden Nelson Center on the first Wednesday of each month at 7:30 PM. The public is welcome to speak as guests at the first 20 minutes of the meetings."
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if it's been closed since Jan 2010, why didn't they start planning months ago for an alternate space for this holiday's meals?
The only other public place that comes to mind that could handle the 1000+- people who attend and the THREE DAYS of preparation time needed would be the Civic Auditorium, and you don't REALLY believe the city would host such an eevnt for their impoverished, seniors, houseless, and community in general?
Their WHOLE TACTIC IS destruction of the current community (they've already eliminated all low wage resident workers (as opposed to college students who party on the 'wages' provided by the 16 hr a week jobs offered by most DT busineses) who used to live downtown and replace them with over-the-hill commuting, shopping mall as entertainment worshiping, citizenry of people who are socially isolated and have homes to cook meals in... ...and college students... who mostly won't be around on Thanksgiving.
At least that's their target for a Santa Cruz city population, and they're actively working on it.
Do you REALLY think the city and the tourist trash businesses they pander to would want their underclass downtown while the affluent window shop the day before "The busiest shopping day of the year"?
Of course not.
Hell... Councilmember Cynthia Mattews even engaged in personal communicationss with the Presbyterian arch-dioces implying that Father Joel at the Red Church was not cooperating with the city's "homeless plan" by continuing to operate the Monday evening youth meal, which caused an investigation by the dioces.
BTW... Turn your back on these pigs for a second and they'll just drop the vets hall into it's own footprint... level the ground,and build some 'telecommuting cubies'
Manthre at Lulus would LUV that!
Their WHOLE TACTIC IS destruction of the current community (they've already eliminated all low wage resident workers (as opposed to college students who party on the 'wages' provided by the 16 hr a week jobs offered by most DT busineses) who used to live downtown and replace them with over-the-hill commuting, shopping mall as entertainment worshiping, citizenry of people who are socially isolated and have homes to cook meals in... ...and college students... who mostly won't be around on Thanksgiving.
At least that's their target for a Santa Cruz city population, and they're actively working on it.
Do you REALLY think the city and the tourist trash businesses they pander to would want their underclass downtown while the affluent window shop the day before "The busiest shopping day of the year"?
Of course not.
Hell... Councilmember Cynthia Mattews even engaged in personal communicationss with the Presbyterian arch-dioces implying that Father Joel at the Red Church was not cooperating with the city's "homeless plan" by continuing to operate the Monday evening youth meal, which caused an investigation by the dioces.
BTW... Turn your back on these pigs for a second and they'll just drop the vets hall into it's own footprint... level the ground,and build some 'telecommuting cubies'
Manthre at Lulus would LUV that!
For more information:
http://auntieimperial.BLOGSPOT.com
BAD GOVERNMENT, GOOD VETERANS: Santa Cruz County is responsible for ending 24 years of VFW 5888 feeding the homeless, the needy and the general public on Thanksgiving and Christmas.
Hey Auntie, before you boil your head in the microwave, you should take off the tinfoil hat. That sparking and synaptic short-circuiting going on is because you're skipping this important step.
Manthri at Lulu's offered his coffeeshop for the Vets dinner, but it was too small. I happen to know this because I've been working on the relocation of the dinner for some time now. You're a jerk for posting garbage about business owners who actually make a difference, while doing nothing useful yourself.
Manthri at Lulu's offered his coffeeshop for the Vets dinner, but it was too small. I happen to know this because I've been working on the relocation of the dinner for some time now. You're a jerk for posting garbage about business owners who actually make a difference, while doing nothing useful yourself.
How come none of you have mentioned that the city stepped up and the event will take place at the Civic Center?
Seriously, I don't throw the "Cointelpro" card out there easily... but if I was to make up an online identity aimed at discrediting the (a) movement in SC, it would read just like AI's posts over the past few months. Inflammatory, calorie-free, full of invective, no mention of what "she" does to help...
I've lived around here for a loooong time, and anyone who knows me knows EXACTLY who I am, and what/where my connections are.
But your trolling aside, my cohort Razer Raygun just gave this issue, The Veterans Hall Closure, some national and international exposure, along with an elucidation of why the bankers who wrote all those trash mortgages that eventually left Santa Cruz insolvent due to the city's greed-driven dependency on property values, ended up with Gold Toilets, and many of Santa Cruz mortgage purchasers who bought those NINJA loans are not going to get the free meal they need from the Vet's Hall now.
Because criminals prosper in Plutocracies.... and Santa Cruz IS THAT, in a 'teapot'.
That and more here: http://www.archive.org/details/tth_101020
But your trolling aside, my cohort Razer Raygun just gave this issue, The Veterans Hall Closure, some national and international exposure, along with an elucidation of why the bankers who wrote all those trash mortgages that eventually left Santa Cruz insolvent due to the city's greed-driven dependency on property values, ended up with Gold Toilets, and many of Santa Cruz mortgage purchasers who bought those NINJA loans are not going to get the free meal they need from the Vet's Hall now.
Because criminals prosper in Plutocracies.... and Santa Cruz IS THAT, in a 'teapot'.
That and more here: http://www.archive.org/details/tth_101020
For more information:
http://auntieimperial.blogSPOT.com
Is that what I'm understanding?
That IS who you work for, right?
Was that you I saw the morning after Mayday gleefully snapping pictures of the damage because you knew it's exactly what was needed by the DTA for a general police clampdown on Pacific Avenue?
This post is also a response to "Gene", to whom I'd ask: "Where is that information, about the city stepping in and sponsoring at the Civic, public?"
...or was everyone just supposed to spread it by word of mouth?
You DO NOT want people to show up at the Civic on Thanksgiving just to find there IS NO dinner.
City Hall is right across the street, and IT IS flammable (snigger).
We could roast PIG on it's glowing embers for Thanksgiving, and REALLY give thanks!
That IS who you work for, right?
Was that you I saw the morning after Mayday gleefully snapping pictures of the damage because you knew it's exactly what was needed by the DTA for a general police clampdown on Pacific Avenue?
This post is also a response to "Gene", to whom I'd ask: "Where is that information, about the city stepping in and sponsoring at the Civic, public?"
...or was everyone just supposed to spread it by word of mouth?
You DO NOT want people to show up at the Civic on Thanksgiving just to find there IS NO dinner.
City Hall is right across the street, and IT IS flammable (snigger).
We could roast PIG on it's glowing embers for Thanksgiving, and REALLY give thanks!
"This post is also a response to "Gene", to whom I'd ask: "Where is that information, about the city stepping in and sponsoring at the Civic, public?"
It was in the paper that the county came up with a solution.
http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/localnews/ci_16374482
The county said that they would pay the city for the use of the Civic for the dinner, as well as for the Christmas dinner. They even said it was their duty. It looks like they acted pretty quick on this to come up with a solution. So the ball is back in the court of the people organizing the dinners.
Believe me, I'm not standing up for the county. Far from it. But if the organizers of the dinners have known that the hall has been closed since early this year, why didn't they think ahead and ask themselves "Where are we supposed to hold the dinners?". Did they think it would magically open up for them? They've said it takes months to organize everything, so why didn't they ask the question when their planning process usually starts? It kind of looks like they waited until the last minute to think of a solution. It looks like blame for this really lands on both parties. And so far the county has tried to come up with a solution.
It was in the paper that the county came up with a solution.
http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/localnews/ci_16374482
The county said that they would pay the city for the use of the Civic for the dinner, as well as for the Christmas dinner. They even said it was their duty. It looks like they acted pretty quick on this to come up with a solution. So the ball is back in the court of the people organizing the dinners.
Believe me, I'm not standing up for the county. Far from it. But if the organizers of the dinners have known that the hall has been closed since early this year, why didn't they think ahead and ask themselves "Where are we supposed to hold the dinners?". Did they think it would magically open up for them? They've said it takes months to organize everything, so why didn't they ask the question when their planning process usually starts? It kind of looks like they waited until the last minute to think of a solution. It looks like blame for this really lands on both parties. And so far the county has tried to come up with a solution.
Yesterday? Kinda short notice to plan a full meal and festivities for 1000 month from now... especially when the county KNEW they had closed down the traditonal venue.
For more information:
http://auntieimperial.BLOGSPOT.com
I smell a setup. Auntie Imperial is advocating burning down the city hall in an effort to get REAL anarchists in trouble.
Hit the road, Fed, we know your game.
"City Hall is right across the street, and IT IS flammable (snigger).
We could roast PIG on it's glowing embers for Thanksgiving, and REALLY give thanks! "
Hit the road, Fed, we know your game.
"City Hall is right across the street, and IT IS flammable (snigger).
We could roast PIG on it's glowing embers for Thanksgiving, and REALLY give thanks! "
City Council candidate Steve Pleight and I interviewed veteran activist Bob Patton on Free Radio Thursday evening about the background around the shutdown of the Vet's Hall and the inability of the United Veteran's Council to do the holiday meals at Civic given the short time span.
The interview is about twenty minutes or so into the audio file at http://www.radiolibre.org/brb/brb101021.mp3 .
Patton is also quoted in the Sentinel story at http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/localnews/ci_16393249 .
The interview is about twenty minutes or so into the audio file at http://www.radiolibre.org/brb/brb101021.mp3 .
Patton is also quoted in the Sentinel story at http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/localnews/ci_16393249 .
If our vaunted EX-ambassador to the UN, John Bolton, could believe that it wouldn't matter if the top 5 floors of the UN went away, it would... not... matter..., without legal repercussions, I think I have the PERFECT right to believe if Santa Cruz city hall burned down and the city's dispossessed-by-greed roasted a PIG over it... Well not only wouldn't that that prestigious institution be missed, but everyone would get to FORK some PORK as well.
the vets are losing the public perception battle.
if there isn't time for food, do a free concert instead.
call the county's bluff - don't let the space go to waste.
highly doubtful auntie is a fed. he may be divisive to a movement, but he is hardly alone in that sin.
if there isn't time for food, do a free concert instead.
call the county's bluff - don't let the space go to waste.
highly doubtful auntie is a fed. he may be divisive to a movement, but he is hardly alone in that sin.
I was a 14 year old runaway from Brooklyn in 1968 and was a little too young to make it to Chicago, but I tried, and got picked up in the Jersey City freight yard.
I knew Abbie Hoffman, lived with the Gypsy Diggers in the loft over the Cooper Square Free Store, UAW/MF, and I'd like to add my opinion of Robert Norse in regard to his outlandish appearance and somewhat incoherent 'political' actions.
As Leo Strauss' daughter said of Paul Wolfowitz and the NeoFasc... I mean "CON"... NeoCON(!) crew in relation to her father's tutelage and philosophic underpinnings (his take on the 'noble lie'),
"They weren't fit to shine my father's shoes...".
He isn't fit to have shined Abbie's shoes.
Abbie Hoffman was a socio-political 'marketing' genius who managed, beyond all odds, to turn quite a few hedonistic 'hippies' into political activists and could take the media, bend it to his whim, and had INTELLECTUAL IMPACT on the reporters regarding the issue he would hammer on the second the camera and mike was in his face.
He could 'redirect' the conversation AWAY FROM HIM, HIS EGO, AND HIS CLOWNISH ACTION THAT BROUGHT THE MEDIA.
Robert Norse is a putz who can't get enough of his face and name in the media, and then just... poses.
Take it easy, but TAKE IT!,
Auntie Imperial
BTW, an old friend of mine (from my NY runaway days) is a retired criminal lawyer and former director of the National Lawyers Guild. He just emailed me a link to the latest "What to do when the cops/feds/authorities come calling: http://www.nlg.org/publications/you-have-the-right-to-remain-silent/
There are a number of other pertinent docs here: http://www.nlg.org/publications/
I knew Abbie Hoffman, lived with the Gypsy Diggers in the loft over the Cooper Square Free Store, UAW/MF, and I'd like to add my opinion of Robert Norse in regard to his outlandish appearance and somewhat incoherent 'political' actions.
As Leo Strauss' daughter said of Paul Wolfowitz and the NeoFasc... I mean "CON"... NeoCON(!) crew in relation to her father's tutelage and philosophic underpinnings (his take on the 'noble lie'),
"They weren't fit to shine my father's shoes...".
He isn't fit to have shined Abbie's shoes.
Abbie Hoffman was a socio-political 'marketing' genius who managed, beyond all odds, to turn quite a few hedonistic 'hippies' into political activists and could take the media, bend it to his whim, and had INTELLECTUAL IMPACT on the reporters regarding the issue he would hammer on the second the camera and mike was in his face.
He could 'redirect' the conversation AWAY FROM HIM, HIS EGO, AND HIS CLOWNISH ACTION THAT BROUGHT THE MEDIA.
Robert Norse is a putz who can't get enough of his face and name in the media, and then just... poses.
Take it easy, but TAKE IT!,
Auntie Imperial
BTW, an old friend of mine (from my NY runaway days) is a retired criminal lawyer and former director of the National Lawyers Guild. He just emailed me a link to the latest "What to do when the cops/feds/authorities come calling: http://www.nlg.org/publications/you-have-the-right-to-remain-silent/
There are a number of other pertinent docs here: http://www.nlg.org/publications/
There is a rumor, or the equivalent of a rumor, going around that there will be a Thanksgiving meal at the Civic center. Nowhere have I seen a formal announcement. What is really going on? Even the Sentinel's Holiday Calendar doesn't mention it.
Go search.
I also know some of the volunteers, and apparently coordination is in progress.
The question is: "Will the demolition crews show up and drop the Vets Hall into it's own footprint while the community attends the feast for Indigenous Annihilation Day"?
By the time XMAS rolls around Santa Cruz could have ANOTHER full set of 'telecommuting cubies', and the Latte suckers who would come from thousands of miles away (because they can write the exorbitant rents around here off as travel related business expense) would just LUV that coffee shop-cum-fern hangout across the street, and it would LUV them too!
The Rave crowd that USED TO attend shows at the Vets Hall didn't care much for that fern hang out, and it DID NOT care for them.
Just sayin....
I also know some of the volunteers, and apparently coordination is in progress.
The question is: "Will the demolition crews show up and drop the Vets Hall into it's own footprint while the community attends the feast for Indigenous Annihilation Day"?
By the time XMAS rolls around Santa Cruz could have ANOTHER full set of 'telecommuting cubies', and the Latte suckers who would come from thousands of miles away (because they can write the exorbitant rents around here off as travel related business expense) would just LUV that coffee shop-cum-fern hangout across the street, and it would LUV them too!
The Rave crowd that USED TO attend shows at the Vets Hall didn't care much for that fern hang out, and it DID NOT care for them.
Just sayin....
For more information:
http://auntieimperial.blogSPOT.com
http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/ci_16520072?IADID=Search-www.santacruzsentinel.com-www.santacruzsentinel.com
The dinner will be served at the Civic from 12pm-4pm Thursday Nov 25, 2010.
The dinner will be served at the Civic from 12pm-4pm Thursday Nov 25, 2010.
THAT is a 'rant'.You were a useless putz when you hung out with Robert Norse, and you're still a useless putz. Glad you moved away. The homeless of Santa Cruz are safer for it.
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