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Armey: Right wing Jews=deep intellect, Leftist=shallow intellect

by CNN
Democratic congressional leaders lashed out Tuesday at House Majority Leader Dick Armey for comments he made that described Jewish-Americans as split between those with "deeper intellect" or those with "shallow, superficial intellect."
Dems rip Armey for Jewish comments
Republican defends remarks
Tuesday, September 24, 2002 Posted: 7:08 PM EDT (2308 GMT)



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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Democratic congressional leaders lashed out Tuesday at House Majority Leader Dick Armey for comments he made that described Jewish-Americans as split between those with "deeper intellect" or those with "shallow, superficial intellect."

Texas Rep. Martin Frost, chairman of the Democratic Caucus, and Rep. Nita Lowey, D-New York, released a joint statement condemning the comments, which Armey, a Republican, made Friday during a campaign event in Florida.

"We're certain we speak for people for every religious and ethnic background in condemning the disparaging comments made by Dick Armey about the millions of Jews and other Americans who happen to disagree with his right wing ideology," Frost and Lowey, chairwoman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, said in a joint statement. Both are Jewish.

They further said Armey's comments were "absolutely breathtaking in their ignorance" and a "reminder why the GOP's countless `outreach' efforts to minority communities always fail."

During a round-table discussion for Katherine Harris, Florida's former secretary of state now running for Congress, Armey was asked by a member of the mostly Jewish audience why the Jewish-American community is so divided between liberals and conservatives, according to the Bradenton Herald.

"I always see two Jewish communities in America," Armey was quoted as saying: "One of deep intellect and one of shallow, superficial intellect." He said conservatives have a deeper intellect and "occupations of the brain" like engineering, science and economics.

He said liberals work in "occupations of the heart," which he said were those in the arts.

Armey, who has strong pro-Israel political views, defended his comments Tuesday in a Washington news conference, saying they apply to all liberals.

"Liberals are in my estimation just not bright people. They don't think deeply; they don't comprehend; they don't understand. ... They have a narrow educational base, as opposed to the hard scientists," Armey said.

Armey is a former economics professor at the University of North Texas in Denton, near Dallas.

Armey said no one in the room was offended, adding that the criticism was prompted by Democrats' loss of Jewish voters to the Republican Party.

"If you were a southern, Anglo, Baptist liberal, I promise you, I would say you are not well-educated and probably not a great deep thinker, because that's what liberals are," Armey said. "I have not been impressed with the intellect of the left since I was a freshman in college."

Art Teitelbaum, the south area director for the Anti-Defamation League, said the comments did not reflect anti-Semitism. But, he said, "There's no question that some in the Jewish community will be angered and hurt by these comments."


http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/09/24/armey.jews.ap/index.html
by Socialist
Call all your warmongering Congresspeople and Senators, Democrats and Republicans, and demand Dick Armey be kicked out of Congress for this obvious anti-Semitism. Should they fail to protest his anti-Semitism, you can tell these worthless government functionaries that they are not only warmongerers like George War Bush, they are anti-Semites, like George War Bush and his Nazi friends, of whom Dick Armey, Republican Congressperson from Texas, is one. STOP VOTING FOR ALL DEMOCRATS AND ALL REPUBLICANS AT ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT FOR THIS IS THE TRASH THAT IS IN THEIR DESPICABLE MINDS.There is no excuse for this kind of drivel whatsoever.

The ADL is a spy organization and a Zionist organization, which like all Zionist organizations, are lackeys of the anti-Semitic warmongers, whether they be American imperialists, European imperialists or Nazi Germany.

The utter depravity and the low level of culture of the capitalist class and its rotten government are exemplified by this anti-Semitic trash. Only someone with the mind of a thug would utter such stupidity and despicable anti-Semitism. Kick Dick Armey out of Congress now!
by Socialist
Call all your warmongering Congresspeople and Senators, Democrats and Republicans, and demand Dick Armey be kicked out of Congress for this obvious anti-Semitism. Should they fail to protest his anti-Semitism, you can tell these worthless government functionaries that they are not only warmongerers like George War Bush, they are anti-Semites, like George War Bush and his Nazi friends, of whom Dick Armey, Republican Congressperson from Texas, is one. STOP VOTING FOR ALL DEMOCRATS AND ALL REPUBLICANS AT ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT FOR THIS IS THE TRASH THAT IS IN THEIR DESPICABLE MINDS.There is no excuse for this kind of drivel whatsoever.

The ADL is a spy organization and a Zionist organization, which like all Zionist organizations, are lackeys of the anti-Semitic warmongers, whether they be American imperialists, European imperialists or Nazi Germany.

The utter depravity and the low level of culture of the capitalist class and its rotten government are exemplified by this anti-Semitic trash. Only someone with the mind of a thug would utter such stupidity and despicable anti-Semitism. Kick Dick Armey out of Congress now!
by Someone
After seeing this Socialist rant against the "Anti-Semitism" of Armey, I thought perhaps I should give him the benefit of the doubt.

Then he claims the Anti-Defamation League, the Jews' equivalance to the NAACP, an organization dedicated to combatting anti-Semitism, is a "Spy organization" and "Zionist."

A spy organization? The Jewish conspiracy strikes again, I suppose. Socialist rants against anti-semitism, yet betrays his own anti-semitic belief that an organization dedicated to defending Jews, is a bunch of spies, resurrecting the classical anti-Semitic belief of Jew-as-conspirator, tracing back to the Protocals of the Elders of Zion. He rants against anti-semitism, yet displays it in his own argument.

Perhaps Armey has a point.
by Socialist
I suggest you re-read all of the stinking little Nazi Dick Armey's remarks. No one would ever talk such trash unless they were anti-Semites. It is far worse than saying "some Jews are smarter than others." Dick Armey did not confine himself to such an inane statement, which would have been bad and inappropriate enough. A member of Congress is supposed to have sufficient political intellect to ignore stupid questions. In fact, the Jewish community is overwhelmingly atheists of Jewish descent, the people Dick Armey was NOT talking about, and Dick Armey did not talk about radicals, a common political philosophy among humanity, including Jewish people. In fact, all political ideologies exist in the Jewish community, not just 2. Further, referring to liberals as people of shallow intellect is typical fascist contempt for thinking of any kind. This is the old Nazi mentality of despising thinking, cultured people, since of course, they did not think and they had no culture. I DEMAND DICK ARMEY BE KICKED OUT OF CONGRESS IMMEDIATELY. TELL YOUR CONGRESSPERSON AND SENATOR THAT TODAY AND TELL THEM IF THEY DO NOT CONDEMN DICK ARMEY, YOU WILL NEVER, EVER VOTE FOR THEM.
by Emmanuel Goldstein
discussing semites is anti-semitic

http://fakeashorterkink.com/?R2D2C3PO

by Niliach
"Armey said no one in the room was offended, adding that the criticism was prompted by Democrats' loss of Jewish voters to the Republican Party. "


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"There are 3.8 million religiously active Jews (1.5%) ; an additional 2 million regard themselves as cultural or ethnic Jews."

http://www.religioustolerance.org/us_rel.htm

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3.8 mill + 2 mill, that was in 1997, so round that up to 6 million? last election (2000), it was estimated that 105 million people voted. so, assuming that all of the 6 million (give or take a a couple hundred or so thousand) Americans that identify as Jewish are all old enough to vote and voted, that would be what, 5.7 percent of the vote? Too high a number?


if the population in the US was around 281 million in the year 2000, and 105 million cast votes, that means roughly 37 percent of the total population voted (the percentage of *eligible* voters who actually voted, was estimated at 51%, for the presidential election).

if 37 percent of the estimated 6 million Jewish population voted (assuming the number of eligible Jewish voters [age, citizenship, etc.] corresponds with the whole of the US population), that would account for aprox. 2.1 percent of all those who voted in 2000, but maybe (percentage-wise), people who identify as Jews are more likely to vote then the overall American median? My guess is the number lies somewhere between 2.1 percent and 5.7 percent.


anyway, query as to whether politicians are generally more concerned about campaign contributions from Jewish groups and individuals, or vying for actual votes (as Armey stated). (I suppose it goes without saying, that in local races where there is a large Jewish population, such as NYC, the actual head count vote is important. )

by mtlb
the infant spam starts . . . some can't handle the truth.
by Paige Armentrout (emery5150 [at] yahoo.com)
The Truth About Jews in America - according to Dick Armey

You know, I can't believe this guy has the mental acuity to get himself up and dressed in the morning. And I really can't believe that he continues to be charged with serving the people of Texas north of Dallas (the idiots in Texas who keep electing him in the 26th district - that's Carrollton, Lewisville, part of Denton and I am a Texan, by the way). I love the part where he says that if you were a Southern, Anglo, Baptist liberal on and on... I was speechless when I read this. And then I'd like for all of us stupid liberals (the fact that we may be liberal in our thinking condemns us to be stupid - a stunning argument) to ring in our displeasure by writing SOMEONE about this HORRIFIC FOOL.

by love
=and demand Dick Armey

youre in no position to make demands on anybody sit down and shut the fuck up no ones listening to you anyway

=The ADL is a spy organization. I, personally, was one of their victims.

boo hoo cry me a river

=I DEMAND DICK ARMEY BE KICKED OUT OF CONGRESS IMMEDIATELY.

you demand nothing piss off

=stupid liberals

redundancy will get you nowhere




by Babs
STREISAND MEMO TO GEPHARDT: 'TAKE THE OFFENSE!'

Barbra Streisand has reminded Democratic Leader Richard Gephardt in a blistering memo: "Sadam Hussein did not bomb the World Trade Center."

The Streisand memo, released by adviser Margery Tabankin, warns Democrats to "get off the defensive and go on the offensive."

The singeractressdirectorproducer took time out from rehearsals for a performance she's giving on Sunday for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee to remind Gephardt [spelled "Gebhardt" in a faxed memo obtained by DRUDGE] not to "ignore the obvious influence on the Bush Administration of such special interests as the oil industry, the chemical companies, the logging industry... just to name a few."

Streisand notes: "Many of these industries, run by big Republican donors and insiders, clearly have much to gain if we go to war against Iraq."

Streisand urges the Democrats to "publicly convey this message to the American people."

While there are serious problems with Iraq, Barbra feels that we can't let this issue become a distraction from the country's domestic problems and the President's inability to fully dismantle the al Qaeda [spelled "Al Queda" in the fax] network.

Afterall, Saddam [spelled Sadam in the fax] "Hussein did not bomb the World Trade Center."

Feel free to call Barbra or me at 310-395-3599 if you would like to discuss this further, Tabankin offers to Gephardt.

Capitol Hill's top reporter, Ed Henry at ROLL CALL, later confirmed Streisand penned the "confidential memo" urging Gephardt to take the offense' against Bush.

http://www.drudgereport.com/strei.htm

Let's all call this self hating Jewess and tell her where to stick her pen!
by Ffutal
Matt Drudge had some fun at the expense of Barbra Streisand, after obtaining a "confidential" memo addressed to Rep. Dick "Gebhardt" and rife with spelling errors. Now the socialistic songstress has struck back, posting a "Truth Alert on her Web site in which she claims she really does know how to spell and the errors were the fault of "a new employee who sent out a first draft before it had been reviewed or checked for spelling." Here's the best part:

THE IRONIC FURTHER TRUTH.. Hidden in this example of diverted news priorities is the fact that Barbra Streisand is a former spelling bee champion, meticulous in her written communications!

Give me a break! She's claiming to be a world-class speller, and she can't even spell "Barbara"?

http://www.barbrastreisand.com/news_truth.html

http://drudgereport.com/strei.htm
by aaron
Nobody on indymedia cares about billionaire Barbara Streisand.

That you would bother summoning the energy to knock her around, in the process thinking you're striking a blow against radicalism, shows what an idiot you are.

If you're gonna insist on being an idiot, do us a favor and don't be such a boring one.



AMERICAN JOURNAL

Palestine to Move to Dallas-Fort Worth: Dick Armey's Bold Plan

By Alexander Cockburn

I'd guess it was the most explicit call for ethnic cleansing by a prominent American since Sherman's designation of the only good Indian being a dead one, or California's second governor, John McDougal's declaration in his first message to the California legislature in 1851 to the effect that "A war of extermination will continue to be waged between the races till the Indian race becomes extinct." Mind you, Dick Armey wasn't calling for every Palestinian in the territories to be murdered, merely evicted to anywhere, so long as it's somewhere else.

Here's what happened. On May 1, on MSNBC's "Hardball", House Republican Majority Leader Dick Armey, puissant legislator from Fort Worth, called for the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from the occupied territories. Though Armey magnanimously stated he "is content to have a Palestinian state" he emphasized that he is "not content to give up any part of Israel for the purpose of a Palestinian state."

Armey said flatly that the Palestinian territories occupied by Israel--in East Jerusalem, the West Bank
and Gaza Strip--are Israel. Palestinians living in those areas should be removed.

CHRIS MATTHEWS, host: Congressman Dick Armey of Texas leads the Republicans in the US House of Representatives. Congressman Armey, Mr. Majority Leader, why is the Congress about to pass a resolution supporting Israel at a time that the president is trying to walk a line between Israel and its Arab neighbors?

Representative RICHARD ARMEY: Well, we've had--we feel very strongly in the House of Representatives that we have a moral obligation to protect the safety, security and freedom of Israel..

MATTHEWS: What good is this going to do anybody?

ARMEY: We can no longer appease aggressors in the Middle East. we must make it very clear that if you want to talk about peace and talk the talk, you must walk the walk, and that must be respect for Israel's right to live freely, safely and securely.

MATTHEWS Do you support the idea that there be a Palestine state alongside Israel

ARMEY: I'm content to have Israel grab the entire West Bank.

MATTHEWS: Well, where do you put the Palestinian state, in Norway? Once the Israelis take back the West Bank permanently and annex it, there's no place else for the Palestinians to have a state.

ARMEY: No, no, that's not -- that's not at all true. There are many Arab nations that have many hundreds of thousands of acres of land and -- and soil and property and opportunity to create a Palestinian state.

MATTHEWS: So you would transport -- you would transport the
Palestinians from Palestine to somewhere else and call it their state?

ARMEY: I would be perfectly content to have a homeland, just as -- most of...

MATTHEWS: But not in Palestine?

ARMEY: Most of the people who now populate Israel were transported from all over the world to that land and they made it their home. The Palestinians can do the same, and we're per -- perfectly content to work with the Palestinians in doing that...

MATTHEWS: Right, no. No, that's not the question and that's not your answer. The question here is: What is the future of the Palestinians who are fighting Israel right now? You say their future is somewhere besides Palestine. That runs in the way of U.S. policy going back to 1948. It runs -- it runs completely against the president's policy and every policy I've heard a president take, which is that Israel has to give up its settlements on the West Bank and give it back to the Arabs in exchange for peace. You say the deal should be the Palestinians leave?

ARMEY: That's right...I happened to believe that the Palestinians should leave.

MATTHEWS: Have you ever told George Bush, the president from
your home state of Texas, that you think the Palestinians should get up and go and leave Palestine and that's the solution?

ARMEY: I'm probably telling him that right now.

MATTHEWS: Well, just to repeat, you believe that the Palestinians who are now living on the West Bank should get out of there?

ARMEY: Yes.

Of course there was some predictable whining from outfits such as the Arab-American Anti-Discrimination Committee that Armey's endorsement of ethnic cleansing is reprehensible. It certainly is. But as a matter of realism, let us acknowledge Armey's far-sighted, two-pronged strategy. One prong is the current Republican effort to get some sort of purchase on the Jewish vote, in compensation for the Republicans' slowly dawning realization that despite all their efforts the Democrats have got most of the Hispanic vote locked up for years to come.

The other prong is most likely a far-sighted Texan strategy to grab a slice of the billions in US aid that go each year to Israel. Figure it out: if Palestinians are kicked out of their homeland, where are they going to end up?

The Cockburn Plan has been to have them relocated to Nevada, with the same status as an Indian nation, able to run casinos or continue their ancient ways, running sheep on the high plains and mountainsides of northern and central Nevada. Recall the famous "McCarran window" of yesteryear, whereby Basques were let into Nevada to herd sheep without too much trouble from the INS. Hence all those glorious Basque restaurants across the west, my favorite being the Woolgatherers' in Los Banos, just east of Interstate 5 in California, where you get a plate of lamb stew gratis as an appetizer as you gaze at all the brawny ranchers chowing down at long trestle tables. The Chalet Basque down the road is pretty good too.

Eventually the Basques went home to fight for Free Basqueland, blowing up Spanish policemen and sometimes even generals in this glorious cause. Bolivians were brought in to talk to the sheep in Spanish. They too have headed home after the bottom fell out of the American sheep industry after environmentalists made it illegal to gas coyotes to death with M-80s. But these days the Great Pyrenees dog fends off coyotes, and thus there's an opening for Palestinian pastoralists.

Sapient critics like Patrick Brennan of Virginia Beach have noted the Cockburn plan fails to take "into consideration what the dominant religion in much of the empty-quarter southwest would think about this. Mormons don't seem to make the big deal of this that they once did, but they claim to be descendants of the lost Lamanite tribe of Israel. Many Mormon values correspond nicely with positive values of the Israelis although Mormon attitudes toward women are much more aligned with those of the Islamic persuasion."

Give this thought, plus the fact that Palestinian casinoes would be perceived as rivals by Las Vegas, an industry founded by Bugsy Siegel and one in which Jewish influence is still marked. So we'd back to square one, though as Brennan helpfully notes, the Palestinians could support themselves as custodians of the 96,000 truckloads of nuclear waste destined for Yucca Mountain, Nevada.

The Armey plan is, I can now reveal, to have the new Palestinian statelet located in a magnificent new terminal at Dallas Fort Worth airport, which will bring billions in federal funding to his district. Having endorsed the eviction of Palestinians, Armey will then shift position, announce that with the Palestinians kicked out, Israel is now secure within its borders and the $3 billion or so in acknowledged direct US aid can now be diverted to the new Palestinian entity at Dallas-Fort Worth.

In the aftermath of Armey's robust performance with Matthews the US Congress gave Sharon the green light to do what it wants to the Palestinians, with resolutions of unqualified support for Israel put forward by Senator Joe Lieberman and by Armey's fellow Texan, majority whip Tom DeLay, the former rodent exterminator. And who voted against ful-throated endorsement of the war criminal Sharon? Precisely two members of the Senate declined to endorse every actionh of a nation that most recently had rampaged its way through Janin refugee camp: Robert Byrd of West Virginia (as meister of the pork barrel he was maybe irked at the DeLay/Armey drive for Palestinian subsidies) and Ernest Hollings of South Carolina. In the House there were only 21 No votes, including outgoing California rep Gary Condit who probably now feels free to express his true feelings about the
Levy family, and also my favorites, Ron Paul of Texas and Dana Rohrbacher of California.

There were 29 reps who oped for the cowardly, sit-on-your-hands "present" vote, including such Nation magazine stars as Bernie Sanders of Vermont, Marcy Kaptur of Ohio and Dennis Kucinich, also of Ohio and a man whose "prayer" made the rqadical circuits a month or so ago. I guess there's no place in Dennis's prayers for Palestinians.

--"Art Teitelbaum, the south area director for the Anti-Defamation League, said the comments did not reflect anti-Semitism."

That's because pro-Israelis (of which the ADL is a major group) are ready to absolve anyone of anti-Semitism so long as they support Israel as Dick Armey does.

The most obvious case is that of the pro-Israelis' alliance with Christian Fundamentalists (like Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Billy Graham, etc.). So long as these fruitcakes support Israel, they're just fine...

Armey supports total ethnic cleansing of Palestinians by Israel so is therefore absolved of any wrongdoings against Jews by his pro-Israeli allies.


by Noam Chomsky
There was some discussion about this in the New Republic which is basically the journal of the Israeli lobby. It's the Israeli propaganda journal. It's interesting the way they dealt with it. Of course, the Democrats never picked the issue up because the leadership of the Jewish community told them to forget it. It's not worth pursuing. We don't care. The New Republic explained it, interestingly. There is, they said, this "antique and anemic anti-semitism." It's a crime in the Republican Party. It's true we have this "antique and anemic anti-semitism," namely outright Nazis, [laughter] people who gassed people and so on, but that's "antique and anemic anti-semitism." That's not a big concern. They said the real anti-semitism was in the Democratic Party. Why? Because at the Democratic convention there was a discussion of a Palestinian State. OK. That's the real anti-semitism. And, in fact, the Anti Defamation League, the B'nai B'rith, the official monitor of anti-semitism, they both put out some really dirty news copy. It's called "The Real Anti-Semitism in America," around the early eighties, and in it they agreed with the New Republic. We don't have to be worried about antique and anemic anti-semitism, outright Nazis and Holocaust deniers, and so on. We don't have to worry about that. What we have to be worried about is the real anti-semitism. Now, what's the real anti-semitism? Well, they define it. Real anti-semitism they say is, I'm quoting now, I may be off by a word or so but this is essentially a quote, "The real anti-semitism is people who give war a bad name and peace favorable press." Peace wreakers of Vietnam vintage, people who oppose the U.S. military budget, oppose U.S. actions in Central America, that's the real anti-semitism. Why? Well, the logic is clear. By their standards the interests of anti-semitism are opposition to the interests of Jews. The interests of Jews are the same as the interests of Israel, in their particular interpretation of those interests, not somebody else's, their hawkish interpretation. The hawkish interpretation of the interests of Israel requires a powerful U.S. military budget and U.S. militancy worldwide. Because they want to maintain the military confrontation. They want Israel to be an embattled state in a military confrontation with its neighbors, not entering into a political settlement, and that means powerful support from the United States. Well, that being the case, people who give war a bad name and peace a favorable press, they're the real anti-semites. So, in a sense, there is anti-semitism in the peace movement, yes. [laughter][applause]
by J.L.Cullers
In my opinion based upon my attempt to be informed, the Zionist is controlling both and all facets of the political parties in the United States. It appears to be accomplishing it intended purpose which is instilling fear in the public to think realisticly and speak out :Study the new HOME LAND SECURITY laws and the supporters in congress. Look at the Christian Right's lobbing and their supporters. I also believe the word "anti-Semetic" is being hijacked and converted to one use only. Are not the Arabs Semites? My final fear is that all this will eventually have negative reprecussions on Jews--Zionist/non-Zionist alike.
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