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The Holocaust Industry

by Clear Vision
Yes, we know the Holocaust happened. We should also know about the cynical use of the Holocaust by Zionists as a kind of psychological blackmail against non-Jews to justify what Israel is doing to the Palestinians.
Norman Finkelstein is an amazing writer. He wrote "The Holocaust Industry". Can you imagine the nerves of steel he must have to have been able to write and publish that book? Amazing. I encourage everyone to go to his website at http://www.normanfinkelstein.com and check it out. There is a story about the reaction to the book as well, that is quite telling. The book was well-received in Europe, but when it came out in America, at first there was a dead silence. Then there was a torrent of screams and accusations of Finkelstein being a self-hating Jew, etc., etc. from some of the most vitriolic, venomous Zionists around... the American Zionist Jews.

It certainly makes for interesting, informative, and eye-opening reading. I would say it is a "must read" for anyone who is concerned with the Palestine-Israel conflict.
by Clear Vision
I just noticed on Norman Finkelstein's website that he has a new article on the Palestine-Israel conflict, and from what I scanned of it, it is totally RIGHT ON. Please check it out at http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/id127htm
by Clear Vision
The correct link to his article about the Palestine-Israel conflict is:
http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/id127.htm
by hinky
I can't say I think the Holocaust is used so much on non-Jews as it is on Jews. The Zionists decided the Holocaust was a wonderful thing for them right from the get-go, refusing to aid the victims, helping to block emgration to the West, even breaking the Jewish embargo and trafficking with the Nazi state for supplies destined for Palestine. They said "only with blood will we have our state". Not their blood of course, just the blood of other innocent Jews. Fast forward. They still need to get Jewish blood spilled to justify their cause. Thats the only legitimacy their cause has ever had, its oiled in the blood of their brothers, so its good. No! Its a bloody, horrifying, unspeakable perversion! Every Jew everywhere should fight against Zionism! How will they ever have a homeland the Zionist way? What righteous Jew would want to live in such a horror of a land?
by xz
{{even breaking the Jewish embargo and trafficking with the Nazi state for supplies destined for Palestine}}Without the German reparations that started coming during its first ten years as a state, Israel would not have half of its present infrastructure. All the trains are German, and the same goes for electrical installations and a great deal of Israel's industry" (Nahum Goldmann, Das juedische Paradox, Europaeische Verlagsanstalt
by xz
{{even breaking the Jewish embargo and trafficking with the Nazi state for supplies destined for Palestine}}Without the German reparations that started coming during its first ten years as a state, Israel would not have half of its present infrastructure. All the trains are German, and the same goes for electrical installations and a great deal of Israel's industry" (Nahum Goldmann, Das juedische Paradox, Europaeische Verlagsanstalt
by &
well, the Germans DID do it, so they ought to pay reparations. Nobody made them do it. All I'm saying is that the zionists used it and profited politically off it, and they continue to this day to turn a political profit on the blood and dead flesh of the Jewish people.
by Holohoax are us
"The Germans DID it"

The Germans didn't DO anything except lose the war. Woe to the vanquished.

Why don't you read the facts instead of spouting bs!

http://jewishtribalreview.org/index.html
by Nazis are losers - i love to beat them up
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Nazis are losers - i love to beat them up
by All Jews lie
A few other sites which discuss Holocaust issues intelligently as opposed to pathetic Jew graphics.

http://www.revisionists.com/

http://codoh.com/

http://ihr.org/

http://aaargh.vho.org/

http://www.hoffman-info.com/

http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/

http://www.ety.com/tell/books/jglife/jgtoc.htm

http://www.faem.com/eric/debunk.htm

http://www.cwporter.com/

http://209.15.84.106/~granata/

http://www.heretical.org/miscella//butz1.html

http://www.whitealliance.com/

http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/index.html

http://www.johnsack.com/an_eye_for_an_eye_2.htm

http://www.ety.com/HRP/booksonline/d6mrd/d6mrd01.htm

http://www.air-photo.com/english/

http://www.corax.org/revisionism/


If the Jew exterminationist version of the holohoax is correct why do the jews persist in firebombing Institute Historic Review offices trying to shut down websites which seek to discuss the facts of the holohoax?

Could it be that Jew holohoax justification for Israeli extermination of Palestinians and stealing their land would not longer be defendable?


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by 3
The pro-Palestinian lobby and the neo-nazis should put aside their differences and hold hands in their mutual desire to see an end of the racist zionist state of Israel. Because you do not agree on some things does not mean you can't put these aside in order to work together on the Palestinian issue. Between the Palestinian issue and your mutual distrust of the US government you have so much in common. In some respects you are blood brothers.
by Just Get Out!
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by watch your parking meters
The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi. Against Nazis, anything is permissible. Whatever it takes to rid the earth of this cancer must be done and done soon. These vermin should be trailed back to their lairs and killed. – Nessie

http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/08/144025_comment.php#144361


The only good Christian is a dead Christian. Against Christians, anything is permissible. Whatever it takes to rid the earth of this cancer must be done and done soon. These vermin should be trailed back to their lairs and killed. - Caesar

The only good Jew is a dead Jew. Against Jews, anything is permissible. Whatever it takes to rid the earth of this cancer must be done and done soon. These vermin should be trailed back to their lairs and killed. – Hitler

The only good Nigger is a dead Nigger. Against Niggers, anything is permissible. Whatever it takes to rid the earth of this cancer must be done and done soon. These vermin should be trailed back to their lairs and killed. – Ku Klux Klan

The only good Palestinian is a dead Palestinian. Against Palestinians, anything is permissible. Whatever it takes to rid the earth of this cancer must be done and done soon. These vermin should be trailed back to their lairs and killed. – Zionist Jews

The only good Dissident is a dead Dissident. Against Dissidents, anything is permissible. Whatever it takes to rid the earth of this cancer must be done and done soon. These vermin should be trailed back to their lairs and killed. – Police State

Remember:

Nazis come in many different forms. Those who are neo-nazis are easy to identify. It is those who want the same result as the neo-nazis but for what they say is a different reason that are not as easy to see. Wolves in sheeps clothing.

Those who wish to control your life must have an enemy through which to rally the masses. They will recruit you to join their struggle and to rid those whom they oppose. And then one day, after they have used you, it will be YOU they oppose.

And your death will be by their hands.
by laughing
This thread is getting out of hand . . . . this is what happens when stories are posted late at night.
by Salon interviewer Viktor Frölke
Salon Magazine did an interview with Finkelstein when his book came out in 2000. The Salon interview is noteworthy because besides Finkelstein's site itself, this interview is one of the few remaining "major" media sites on the author and his book. Every other major US newspaper and ezine site removed their interviews with Finkelstein, and even references to this book. Salon resisted the demands of American Jews to remove the interview.

Excerpt:
"The son of an Auschwitz survivor accuses the "Holocaust industry," Elie Wiesel and Jewish leaders worldwide of a vast shakedown.

Finkelstein's main and most devastating charge is that "American Jewish elites" and organizations are extorting billions of dollars from European countries and corporations in the name of "needy Holocaust survivors" in order to fund Holocaust programs, Holocaust memorials, Holocaust studies, Holocaust literature and, in general, "the Jewish community." Together they form not just a cottage industry but a full-fledged "Holocaust industry" sustained by a persistent ideology of "Holocaust correctness" that serves "certain class and political interests." Instead of helping the Jewish cause, Finkelstein goes on to argue, the Holocaust industry has become "the main fomenter of anti-Semitism in Europe" by spreading an image of greedy Jews."

Entire interview here:

http://archive.salon.com/books/int/2000/08/30/finkelstein/print.html
by Thor
Here are minor corrections on your Bobby (the Jew) Zimmerman epic:

1. Nessie did say "The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi. Against Nazis, anything is permissible. Whatever it takes to rid the earth of this cancer must be done and done soon. These vermin should be trailed back to their lairs and killed. – Nessie”

But of course Nessie is one of those racist Jews.

2. Caesar never said anything about Christians as he was born 100 years Before Christ, but like all Roman citizens he did hate the Jew.

3. Hitler never said that at any time about the Jew, but god bless his kind heart, the world now wishes he had.

4. The KKK never said this about Niggers, but of course the Jews who founded the NAACP, the SPLC and all the other Jew organizations used to keep the blacks enslaved regularly lie about the KKK saying this.

5. Yes it is true that the Zionist Jews say this about Palestinians (and everyone else the Jews hate)...see the Jews in numbers 1, 4, 5 and 6.

6. And of course, the Jews in the Israeli Police State say this about everyone who dissents against the murderous Jew.

Remember.

Jews come only in one form. They are truly the Devil. As Satan’s minions, Jews hate every other race and religion in the world. They support only their fellow Jews.
by dr
Come one, 3! Zionazis have much more in common with white supremists than pro-Palestinians! Be serious! Pro-Palestinians value diversity and want equal rights for all, including Palestinians. It's the Zionazis who want a JEWISH STATE and who have been committing ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians since DAY ONE of the creation of the immoral, and I think, illegal country of Israel. Israel must be transformed from an apartheid state to a truly secular democracy with equal rights for all including the right to return of the 4 million Palestinian refugees, which is their legal right according to international law and UN Resolutions. Might I add, European Zionist Jews ARE WHITE! Don't try to tell me you guys check off the "other " box when the forms ask for your ethnicity, white, black, Asian, etc. I've never seen "Jewish" listed. You are such lousy hypocrites!
by cp
Yeah... to say 'the germans' committed the holocaust isn't entirely accurate because the country was barely a democracy in its most basic form, not any more so than the khmer rouge was a democratic expression of the people, or the people in Angola and the Congo have all as a big group decided to have millions of people slaughtered... the country had just come out of a monarchy, and hadn't even been a country before that but a natural assemblage of separate little villages and kingdoms where people had vastly different dialects and traditions. After WWI, they started to have basic elections but did not have the essentials of democracy like a free press, and most people had less than a 9th grade education, plus Hitler only had about 32% of the vote anyway but just took power. People who supplied $$ to that regime take much more of the blame. about 5% of the country got put in camps as political prisoners, and those who weren't are more blameworthy than those who were killed for their opposition, but not as much as anyone who had power in the society. The same goes for the US. If you are higher than middle class or have a college degree and aren't doing anything to solve our situation, then you are guilty.
by cp
Yeah... to say 'the germans' committed the holocaust isn't entirely accurate because the country was barely a democracy in its most basic form, not any more so than the khmer rouge was a democratic expression of the people, or the people in Angola and the Congo have all as a big group decided to have millions of people slaughtered... the country had just come out of a monarchy, and hadn't even been a country before that but a natural assemblage of separate little villages and kingdoms where people had vastly different dialects and traditions. After WWI, they started to have basic elections but did not have the essentials of democracy like a free press, and most people had less than a 9th grade education, plus Hitler only had about 32% of the vote anyway but just took power. People who supplied $$ to that regime take much more of the blame. about 5% of the country got put in camps as political prisoners, and those who weren't are more blameworthy than those who were killed for their opposition, but not as much as anyone who had power in the society. The same goes for the US. If you are higher than middle class or have a college degree and aren't doing anything to solve our situation, then you are guilty.
by X2
yes you are all quite right about the German people not having committed the holocaust. They certainly didn't do very much to stop it, as a whole. There's plenty of evidence that they knew what was going on and did basically nothing, many even approved. However I'm sure there were large numbers who didn't but felt overwhelmed by the vast support as well as the fact you might not want to speak up too loud about your concerns in a Nazi state. Therefore I stand corrected, the Germans did not commit the Holocaust, it was Nazis and their sympathizers. This was a comment made in haste and I'm sure most of you can understand my intent - it was much the same as I might say "the Americans intervened in Nicaragua" you all know that I don't mean that every single American went down there.
However I stand by the original intent of my statement which is that the German state was not unduly punished by making reparations. However such reparation money being used to commit new crimes against humanity is in my opinion a grievous crime and a very evil irony.
Just substitute "Germany" with "Israel" in the above post. Unfortunately Israelis voted in their war criminal hero Sharon overwhelmingly. Only a tiny minority peace group really takes any action against the war crimes committed daily by immoral, apartheid Israel.

Soon, hopefully, Israel will be paying hefty reparations to Palestinians, and the US too.

I am totally disgusted by what my government has gotten itself into.

We should all be out in the streets. Heads should roll.

And by the way, I'm a 4th generation American, and THIS is MY homeland, NOT Israel!
by X2
"Soon, hopefully, Israel will be paying hefty reparations to Palestinians, and the US too."

Yes, certainly. And Sharon and Bush and Blair to take the stand on war crimes charges.

There are numerous comparisons of wartime Germany with Israel which can be made, everything is there except the concentration camps - and Nazi Germany didn't start out with those. It was the 'Final Solution' to the 'Jewish Problem'. I'm sure if we let it happen it will soon be a 'Final Answer' to the 'Terrorist Question'.

Maybe reparations never was the way to go. Maybe it tainted the whole thing with money. Maybe the repayment should have taken a different form. Something to prevent a mass Stockholm Syndrome.
by H3O
'Still no answer to my question.'

your question is off the subject. this is not about nazism. demonstrating the evils of nazism is just one of the vehicles. this is about power and how it is achieved. your ways will be as bloody as these others. the words you use and the words they use are interchangable. all of you have the same purpose, to murder human beings, especially those who stand in your way.

Remember:

Those who wish to control your life must have an enemy through which to rally the masses. They will recruit you to join their struggle and to rid those whom they oppose. And then one day, after they have used you, it will be YOU they oppose, and your death will be by their hands.

Yesterday Nazis. Tomorrow Anarchists.
by X2
"Those who wish to control your life must have an enemy through which to rally the masses. They will recruit you to join their struggle and to rid those whom they oppose. And then one day, after they have used you, it will be YOU they oppose, and your death will be by their hands."

Now is that an absolute rule, or are they exceptions? Do you think the people ever resist this, or is any nutcase who comes along and invents a phoney enemy able to do this, perfectly, every time? If you do believe in it as an absolute I have to ask: why do you bother with discussion?
Furthermore the whole thing makes no sense. Followers are rarely killed by their own leaders. It happens but its rare. You have the occasional purge etc but in general fanatics are thrown out to fight the other side's fanatics and this is where they die; not at the hands of recruiters.
by H2O
i'm not here to answer your questions or anyone elses i'm here to warn others about you and those who would murder human beings who stand in their way if even 1 person is saved from your brand of tyranny it will be considered a success
by night at the improvs
You're so fucking absurd you trolls its hilarious! You don't ever seem to be able to give a straight answer! Which is it - stupidity, inability to type, or you don't have a good point which can take a bit of analysis? Your pick.
by Ffutal
MSNBC.com features a photo essay in which, as the site describes it, "photojournalist Judith Passow remembers the 1987-1993 Palestinian uprising." But someone at MSNBC is not so sympathetic to the Palestinian cause. The essay is entitled "Intifada: Birth of a Nation"--after D.W. Griffith's infamous 1915 film glorifying the Ku Klux Klan.

http://www.msnbc.com/modules/intifada/splash.asp?cp1=1

http://www.filmsite.org/birt.html
by X2
its true but I love to demoralize the little nitwits they draw to themselves. I'm trying to get that 1300% rate up to maybe 2000% or higher if I can.
You forgot "The Web of Hate" by Warren Kinsella.
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