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TREAT ISRAEL LIKE SOUTH AFRICA
The author says, Israel is like the New South Africa and the proposed Palestinian state will be worse than the Old South Africa. Read the article, he has a good point!
That's right you read it right, treat Israel like South Africa. You know for years, leftists and Arabs, and all kind of anti-Semites compared Israel to South Africa. Lately they've even begun urging investors to divest from Israel as was done against South Africa.
Many Jews shrugged off the comparison, or hid from it. And most decent people of all persuasions, argued, "No it's not true, Israel is a democracy, and South Africa has apartheid."
But it dawned on me tonight that the comparison makes some sense. Not between Israel - the embattled victim of morally degenerate suicide bombings - and the once racially segregated South Africa. Not between Israel, the victor in a defensive war - that pitted several enemies against it, attempting a second Holocaust in 1967 - and a cruel divisive South African regime that pitted one group against another for racial supremacy. But between Israel the country that since 1948, has wanted to live peacefully with its neighbors; between Israel who has won all the wars that were forced upon it and still made agreements to return territory captured - territory that gave it much needed strategic depth - in return for promises written on paper; and the new racially diverse South Africa of Nelson Mandela, Desmond Tutu, and the current President Thabo Mbeki.
You see Nelson Mandela - winner of the 1993 Nobel Peace Prize - and Desmond Tutu - winner of the 1984 Nobel Peace Prize - called for reconciliation between groups in South Africa. After Mandela's release from 28 years of imprisonment in 1990, the first thing he DIDN'T do was call for killing whites. Being elected President in the first multi-racial election in South Africa in 1994, Mandela also knew how to step down after 5-years in office; instead of like Arafat - the infamous Nobel Peace Prize winner - who recently appointed puppet Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas. Desmond Tutu has set up the Desmond Tutu Peace Centre. As opposed to what one envisions Yasser Arafat doing upon retirement, "The Yasser School of Safe Explosive's Use", maybe?
Here's the issue, current plans put forward by The Quartet - US, EU, UN and Russia - the so-called 'roadmap' to Middle East peace, envision the first case of 'Ethnic Cleansing' of the 21st century, this time internationally legitimated. I understand that if most countries would have favored the Nazi attempt to commit genocide against the Jews, or most of the world supported forced racial segregation - Apartheid - in South Africa, that would have made them OK to do. You don't agree? So why is it OK to close Jewish 'settlements', uproot several 100,000's Jews from Judea and Samaria - the West Bank - and Gaza, in the name of 'Peace', when the world is being promised an end to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and a democratic Palestinian State? Forget Apartheid, they're planning a racially-ethnically pure Arab state free of Jews!
If the 'Peace Plan' everyone envisions, requires uprooting whole communities; towns and villages of thousands, expelling families from their homes, destroying everything built - schools, community centers, businesses, people's lives - in the last 36 years, where may I ask is the reconciliation? Where is the Peace? When the blacks in South Africa finally gained power, they didn't throw the whites out, or try to murder them!
If 'Palestine' has to be 'Judenrein' - free of Jews - then it won't be democratic but NAZI!
'Palestine' won't be an Apartheid State, but a Nazi state, not racially supremist but racially pure. And that's a far cry from the vision being presented to us by all those nice people who say, "we have to solve the Palestinian problem" or "The solution is two states living side by side in peace". The Palestinian Authority till now has done little - some say nothing - to stop the Oslo Terror War for close to three years. Plenty evidence indicates they've actually helped carry it out. The expressed purpose of the terror groups is to drive Jews out of their homes. But Jews have a longer history - almost 4,000 years - with these ancient Holy Places - Hebron, Shechem, Bethlehem, Shilo, Tekoa, Elon More, Jericho as the indigenous population - than the Arabs do. Most of whom came into the area from the surrounding Arab countries in the late 19th & early 20th centuries. Why should the Jews have to leave? If Arabs can be equal citizens in Israel, electable to the Knesset - parliament - why can't Jews be equal citizens in the democratic Palestinian state in the making, with full rights, responsibilities, and privileges?
The comparison between Israel and the old South Africa doesn't fly, but the comparison between the Palestinian state that they're trying to sell us, and the old racist South Africa goes quite well. On the other hand, the correct comparison is between Israel and the new multi-racial South Africa. The population of South Africa today is about 75% black, with the remainder made up of white, coloreds, and Indians. Israel's population is about 80% Jewish, with the remainder Arab, Druze, Bedouin, Circassian, Armenian, etc. Both are democracies with a dominant majority and minorities sharing equal rights.
The proposed Palestinian state will have an estimated population of between 2.4 and 2.9 million people, and almost 10% of the population is Jews. In Judea and Samaria - the West Bank - there are about 1.5 to 1.8 million Arabs and almost 250,000 Jews, or about 15%. When you include the post-1967 parts of Eastern Jerusalem; that brings the total number of Jews to about a half a million, or almost 20% of the proposed Palestinian state. So why exactly can't Jews stay in Palestine?
In Hebron for example, the media always tells you that there are 500 Jews living among 100,000 or 120,000 Arabs. BIG LIE! What they 'forget' to tell you is that the population figure for the Arabs, is for the greater metropolitan area of Hebron, surrounding villages - suburbs - and all, and if you include all the Jews living in the same areas - Kiryat Arba, and the Hebron Hills towns and villages - there are close to 10,000 Jews living there, or about 10% of the total population. Cities in Judea and Samaria like Ma'ale Adumim with almost 35,000 Jews and Ariel with 22,000 - the size of Anytown, USA - they're going to be expelled?
Why can't all these Jews stay living in Palestine, just as the non-Jews live in Israel? Real peace doesn't mean 'Ethnic Cleansing', real peace means reconciliation, respect, and mutual trust. If there aren't any of these, THERE ISN'T ANY REAL PEACE! So, why are the Jews being forced from their homes exactly?
Why does the world want to 'Ethnically Cleanse' Palestine of Jews? Why would the world voluntarily create - at best - another old South Africa - at worst - a Nazi Arab state? Does the world somehow have lower expectations from the Arabs? That Arabs somehow can't live peacefully among others? Does the world have racist attitudes that somehow Palestinians can't live in democratic societies and share? Or, does the world not care about persecuted Jews? Just like in the time of the Holocaust!
Where are all the 'Great Souls' of the world, morally outraged by a 'Peace Plan' that calls for the expulsion of people from their homes? Where are all the anti-apartheid activists, who saw such evil in the old South Africa? Why aren't they protesting this latest injustice? Why not divest from Palestine?
So, I challenge you Desmond. I dare you Nelson. Stand up for those high morals everyone has attributed to the two of you. Don't just sit back and watch as 100,000's of Jews get 'Ethnically Cleansed' from their ancient homeland. Remember Desmond the Land of Israel, Canaan or Judea, that place described in your Bible? Certainly men of such high moral fiber as yourselves, and all the others like you, will call out for 'understanding', and 'tolerance', and 'peace' and 'reconciliation', between Arab and Jew in a democratic Palestine. And certainly, you will all oppose expelling people from their homes, even if they are only Jews!
Ariel Natan Pasko is an independent analyst & consultant. He has a Master's Degree in International Relations & Policy Analysis. His articles appear regularly on numerous news/views and think-tank websites, in newspapers, and can be read at: http://www.geocities.com/ariel_natan_pasko
(c) 2003/5763 Pasko
Many Jews shrugged off the comparison, or hid from it. And most decent people of all persuasions, argued, "No it's not true, Israel is a democracy, and South Africa has apartheid."
But it dawned on me tonight that the comparison makes some sense. Not between Israel - the embattled victim of morally degenerate suicide bombings - and the once racially segregated South Africa. Not between Israel, the victor in a defensive war - that pitted several enemies against it, attempting a second Holocaust in 1967 - and a cruel divisive South African regime that pitted one group against another for racial supremacy. But between Israel the country that since 1948, has wanted to live peacefully with its neighbors; between Israel who has won all the wars that were forced upon it and still made agreements to return territory captured - territory that gave it much needed strategic depth - in return for promises written on paper; and the new racially diverse South Africa of Nelson Mandela, Desmond Tutu, and the current President Thabo Mbeki.
You see Nelson Mandela - winner of the 1993 Nobel Peace Prize - and Desmond Tutu - winner of the 1984 Nobel Peace Prize - called for reconciliation between groups in South Africa. After Mandela's release from 28 years of imprisonment in 1990, the first thing he DIDN'T do was call for killing whites. Being elected President in the first multi-racial election in South Africa in 1994, Mandela also knew how to step down after 5-years in office; instead of like Arafat - the infamous Nobel Peace Prize winner - who recently appointed puppet Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas. Desmond Tutu has set up the Desmond Tutu Peace Centre. As opposed to what one envisions Yasser Arafat doing upon retirement, "The Yasser School of Safe Explosive's Use", maybe?
Here's the issue, current plans put forward by The Quartet - US, EU, UN and Russia - the so-called 'roadmap' to Middle East peace, envision the first case of 'Ethnic Cleansing' of the 21st century, this time internationally legitimated. I understand that if most countries would have favored the Nazi attempt to commit genocide against the Jews, or most of the world supported forced racial segregation - Apartheid - in South Africa, that would have made them OK to do. You don't agree? So why is it OK to close Jewish 'settlements', uproot several 100,000's Jews from Judea and Samaria - the West Bank - and Gaza, in the name of 'Peace', when the world is being promised an end to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and a democratic Palestinian State? Forget Apartheid, they're planning a racially-ethnically pure Arab state free of Jews!
If the 'Peace Plan' everyone envisions, requires uprooting whole communities; towns and villages of thousands, expelling families from their homes, destroying everything built - schools, community centers, businesses, people's lives - in the last 36 years, where may I ask is the reconciliation? Where is the Peace? When the blacks in South Africa finally gained power, they didn't throw the whites out, or try to murder them!
If 'Palestine' has to be 'Judenrein' - free of Jews - then it won't be democratic but NAZI!
'Palestine' won't be an Apartheid State, but a Nazi state, not racially supremist but racially pure. And that's a far cry from the vision being presented to us by all those nice people who say, "we have to solve the Palestinian problem" or "The solution is two states living side by side in peace". The Palestinian Authority till now has done little - some say nothing - to stop the Oslo Terror War for close to three years. Plenty evidence indicates they've actually helped carry it out. The expressed purpose of the terror groups is to drive Jews out of their homes. But Jews have a longer history - almost 4,000 years - with these ancient Holy Places - Hebron, Shechem, Bethlehem, Shilo, Tekoa, Elon More, Jericho as the indigenous population - than the Arabs do. Most of whom came into the area from the surrounding Arab countries in the late 19th & early 20th centuries. Why should the Jews have to leave? If Arabs can be equal citizens in Israel, electable to the Knesset - parliament - why can't Jews be equal citizens in the democratic Palestinian state in the making, with full rights, responsibilities, and privileges?
The comparison between Israel and the old South Africa doesn't fly, but the comparison between the Palestinian state that they're trying to sell us, and the old racist South Africa goes quite well. On the other hand, the correct comparison is between Israel and the new multi-racial South Africa. The population of South Africa today is about 75% black, with the remainder made up of white, coloreds, and Indians. Israel's population is about 80% Jewish, with the remainder Arab, Druze, Bedouin, Circassian, Armenian, etc. Both are democracies with a dominant majority and minorities sharing equal rights.
The proposed Palestinian state will have an estimated population of between 2.4 and 2.9 million people, and almost 10% of the population is Jews. In Judea and Samaria - the West Bank - there are about 1.5 to 1.8 million Arabs and almost 250,000 Jews, or about 15%. When you include the post-1967 parts of Eastern Jerusalem; that brings the total number of Jews to about a half a million, or almost 20% of the proposed Palestinian state. So why exactly can't Jews stay in Palestine?
In Hebron for example, the media always tells you that there are 500 Jews living among 100,000 or 120,000 Arabs. BIG LIE! What they 'forget' to tell you is that the population figure for the Arabs, is for the greater metropolitan area of Hebron, surrounding villages - suburbs - and all, and if you include all the Jews living in the same areas - Kiryat Arba, and the Hebron Hills towns and villages - there are close to 10,000 Jews living there, or about 10% of the total population. Cities in Judea and Samaria like Ma'ale Adumim with almost 35,000 Jews and Ariel with 22,000 - the size of Anytown, USA - they're going to be expelled?
Why can't all these Jews stay living in Palestine, just as the non-Jews live in Israel? Real peace doesn't mean 'Ethnic Cleansing', real peace means reconciliation, respect, and mutual trust. If there aren't any of these, THERE ISN'T ANY REAL PEACE! So, why are the Jews being forced from their homes exactly?
Why does the world want to 'Ethnically Cleanse' Palestine of Jews? Why would the world voluntarily create - at best - another old South Africa - at worst - a Nazi Arab state? Does the world somehow have lower expectations from the Arabs? That Arabs somehow can't live peacefully among others? Does the world have racist attitudes that somehow Palestinians can't live in democratic societies and share? Or, does the world not care about persecuted Jews? Just like in the time of the Holocaust!
Where are all the 'Great Souls' of the world, morally outraged by a 'Peace Plan' that calls for the expulsion of people from their homes? Where are all the anti-apartheid activists, who saw such evil in the old South Africa? Why aren't they protesting this latest injustice? Why not divest from Palestine?
So, I challenge you Desmond. I dare you Nelson. Stand up for those high morals everyone has attributed to the two of you. Don't just sit back and watch as 100,000's of Jews get 'Ethnically Cleansed' from their ancient homeland. Remember Desmond the Land of Israel, Canaan or Judea, that place described in your Bible? Certainly men of such high moral fiber as yourselves, and all the others like you, will call out for 'understanding', and 'tolerance', and 'peace' and 'reconciliation', between Arab and Jew in a democratic Palestine. And certainly, you will all oppose expelling people from their homes, even if they are only Jews!
Ariel Natan Pasko is an independent analyst & consultant. He has a Master's Degree in International Relations & Policy Analysis. His articles appear regularly on numerous news/views and think-tank websites, in newspapers, and can be read at: http://www.geocities.com/ariel_natan_pasko
(c) 2003/5763 Pasko
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JS 6:21-27 With the Lord's approval, Joshua destroys the city of Jericho men, women, and children with the edge of the sword.
JS 8:22-25 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly smites the people of Ai, killing 12,000 men and women, so that there were none who escaped.
JS 10:10-27 With the help of the Lord, Joshua utterly destroys the Gibeonites.
JS 10:28 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the people of Makkedah.
JS 10:30 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Libnahites.
JS 10:32-33 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the people of Lachish.
JS 10:34-35 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Eglonites.
JS 10:36-37 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Hebronites.
JS 10:38-39 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Debirites.
JS 10:40 (A summary statement.) "So Joshua defeated the whole land ...; he left none remaining, but destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord God of Israel commanded."
JS 11:8-15 "And the lord gave them into the hand of Israel, ...utterly destroying them; there was none left that breathed ...."
JS 11:20 "For it was the Lord's doing to harden their hearts that they should come against Israel in battle, in order that they should be utterly destroyed, and should receive no mercy but be exterminated, as the Lord commanded Moses."
JS 11:21-23 Joshua utterly destroys the Anakim.
JG 1:4 With the Lord's support, Judah defeats 10,000 Canaanites at Bezek.
JG 1:6 With the Lord's approval, Judah pursues Adoni-bezek, catches him, and cuts off his thumbs and big toes.
JG 1:8 With the Lord's approval, Judah smites Jerusalem.
JG 1:17 With the Lord's approval, Judah and Simeon utterly destroy the Canaanites who inhabited Zephath.
JG 3:29 The Israelites kill about 10,000 Moabites.
JG 3:31 (A restatement.) Shamgar killed 600 Philistines with an oxgoad.
JG 7:19-25 The Gideons defeat the Midianites, slay their princes, cut off their heads, and bring the heads back to Gideon.
JG 8:15-21 The Gideons slaughter the men of Penuel.
JG 9:5 Abimalech murders his brothers.
JG 9:45 Abimalech and his men kill all the people in the city.
JG 9:53-54 "A woman dropped a stone on his head and cracked his skull. Hurriedly he called to his armor-bearer, 'Draw your sword and kill me, so that they can't say a woman killed me.' So his servant ran him through, and he died."
JG 15:15 Samson slays 1000 men with the jawbone of an ass.
JG 16:21 The Philistines gouge out Samson's eyes.
JG 16:27-30 Samson, with the help of the Lord, pulls down the pillars of the Philistine house and causes his own death and that of 3000 other men and women.
JG 18:27 The Danites slay the quiet and unsuspecting people of Laish.
JG 21:10-12 "... Go and smite the inhabitants of Jabesh-gilead with the edge of the sword and; also the women and little ones.... every male and every woman that has lain with a male you shall utterly destroy." They do so and find four hundred young virgins whom they bring back for their own use.
1SA 7:7-11 Samuel and his men smite the Philistines.
1SA 11:11 With the Lord's blessing, Saul and his men cut down the Ammonites.
1SA 14:31 Jonathan and his men strike down the Philistines.
1SA 14:48 Saul smites the Amalekites.
1SA 15:3, 7-8 "This is what the Lord says: Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have; do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass ....' And Saul ... utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword."
1SA 15:33 "Samuel hewed Agag in pieces before the Lord ...."
1SA 18:7 The women sing as they make merry: "Saul has slain his thousands and David his ten thousands."
1SA 18:27 David murders 200 Philistines, then cuts off their foreskins.
1SA 30:17 David smites the Amalekites.
2SA 2:23 Abner kills Asahel.
2SA 3:30 Joab and Abishai kill Abner.
2SA 4:7-8 Rechan and Baanah kill Ish-bosheth, behead him, and take his head to David.
2SA 5:25 "And David did as the Lord commanded him, and smote the Philistines ...."
2SA 8:1-18 (A listing of some of David's murderous conquests.)
2SA 8:4 David hamstrung all but a few of the horses.
2SA 8:5 David slew 22,000 Syrians.
2SA 8:6, 14 "The Lord gave victory to David wherever he went."
2SA 8:13 David slew 18,000 Edomites in the valley of salt and made the rest slaves.
2SA 10:18 David slew 47,000+ Syrians.
2SA 13:28-29 Absalom has Amnon murdered.
2SA 18:6 -7 20,000 men are slaughtered at the battle in the forest of Ephraim.
1KI 20:29-30 The Israelites smite 100,000 Syrian soldiers in one day. A wall falls on 27,000 remaining Syrians.
2KI 10:19-27 Jehu uses trickery to massacre the Baal worshippers.
2KI 11:1 Athaliah destroys all the royal family.
2KI 14:5, 7 Amaziah kills his servants and then 10,000 Edomites.
2KI 15:3-5 Even though he did what was right in the eyes of the Lord, the Lord smites Azariah with leprosy for not having removed the "high places."
2KI 15:16 Menahem ripped open all the women who were pregnant.
2KI 19:35 An angel of the Lord kills 185,000 men.
1CH 20:3 (KJV) "And he brought out the people that were in it, and cut them with saws, and with harrows of iron, and with axes."
PS 137:9 Happy will be the man who dashes your little ones against the stones.
PS 144:1 God is praised as the one who trains hands for war and fingers for battle.
IS 13:15 "Everyone who is captured will be thrust through; all who are caught will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their ... wives will be ravished."
IS 13:18 "Their bows also shall dash the young men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eye shall not spare children."
IS 14:21-22 "Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers."
IS 49:26 The Lord will cause the oppressors of the Israelite's to eat their own flesh and to become drunk on their own blood as with wine.
JE 16:4 "They shall die grievous deaths; they shall not be lamented; neither shall they be buried; but they shall be as dung upon the face of the earth: and they shall be consumed by the sword, and by famine; and their carcasses shall be meat for the fowls of heaven, and for the beasts of the earth."
EZ 6:12-13 The Lord says: "... they will fall by the sword, famine and plague. He that is far away will die of the plague, and he that is near will fall by the sword, and he that survives and is spared will die of famine. So will I spend my wrath upon them. And they will know I am the Lord, when the people lie slain among their idols around their altars, on every high hill and on all the mountaintops, under every spreading tree and every leafy oak ...."
EZ 9:4-6 The Lord commands: "... slay old men outright, young men and maidens, little children and women ...."
HO 13:16 "They shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up."
(Spoken, upon his release, before a crowd of 60,000+ people at the Oakland Colluseum, and before similar crowds at stadia across the U.S. throughout his American tour.
Of course, Israel was busy *SUPPORTING* and *ARMING* the South African Apartheid government while the rest of us were busy *fighting* it.)
Desmond Tutu: "If you switched the words black for Palestinian and South Africa for Israel, you wouldn't know that you weren't reading about Apartheid."
Jewish South African: "It's [Israel's behavior] *worse* than Apartheid."
MANDELA AND TUTU ARE INTELLECTUALLY INCONSISTENT, THAT'S THE POINT THE ARTICLE MAKES!
ANYONE WHO SUPPORTS THE PALESTINIAN CAUSE HAS TO ASK THEMSELVES, DO I SUPPORT ETHNIC CLEANSING?
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PLO CHARTER THAT FOR DECADES CLAIMED THEY WANTED A MULTI-CULTURAL SECULAR DEMOCRATIC STATE?
AND NOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN, THE PROPOSED PALESTINIAN CONSTITUTION SAYS THAT ISLAM WILL BE THE STATE RELIGION...AND THEY WANT TO KILL OR EXPEL ALL THE JEWS FROM "PALESTINE"!
WHAT GIVES?
DO PEOPLE OF THE LEFT WHO SUPPORT GAY RIGHTS, WOMEN'S RIGHTS AND MORE GENERALLY "HUMAN RIGHTS" HAVE A BLIND SPOT FOR JEWS?
ARE JEWS LIVING IN THEIR ANCIENT HOMELAND, NOT "HUMAN" TOO?