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No Decision from BART Board on Phone Shut Down, Board Seems to Lean Against, 8/24/11: audio
In a special meeting this morning, the BART Board of Directors met to discuss the agency's mobile phone service shutdown on August 11th that has raised the ire of civil libertarians and Anonymous. The earth shook during the meeting (literally, as an earthquake rolled through the building), but not because the Board made a concrete proposal or voted on a policy moving forward. Board President Bob Franklin did try to summarize what the board's consensus might be moving forward. That consensus seemed to lean toward recommendations made by the ACLU that phone service not be cut except in the most extreme cases such as bombings and hostage situations. The board also appeared to agree that the use of such tactics by BART should be proportionate to the concern being addressed, that accommodations be considered for those with disabilities, and that passengers possibly be given advanced warning of communication shutdowns in the future. Franklin indicated after the meeting that the board might take 2-4 weeks to create a formal policy. [Full audio below]
The meeting opened with BART employees, namely BART police chief Kenton Rainey and GM of operations Paul Oversier, defending the decision to shut down mobile phone antennas in underground stations throughout the system on August 11th. They emphasized the disingenuous rationale that it was for safety and that their concerns were not hypothetical (even though clearly BART was speculating about what might happen in a potential protest when they cut phone service).
Public comment was varied, with several people expressing support for the decision to cut phone service. The majority however, including a representative from the ACLU, were critical of the phone service disruption. Several spoke out against protests as unsafe or an inconvenience to passengers, and several spoke in favor of protests as a means to hold BART accountable for their actions. BART was told in no uncertain terms that demonstrations will continue until the BART police are disbanded. BART was encouraged to consider the historic implications for any related decisions they may make. The pretext of safety being the cause of the phone shutdown was questioned, when BART stations are regularly packed with drunken and sometimes belligerent sports fans and no communications shutdowns have been ordered before. One speaker raised the issue of the deaf being unable to communicate and receive txt messages during the shutdown. Representatives of BART's various employee unions spoke, one claiming that safety was an issue and that locking all gates but one when stations are suddenly closed during protests is responsible policy.
The Board likewise was mixed, although most seemed to approve of the decision to cut phone service and most bought into the idea that cutting phone service somehow increased public safety, albeit while also declaring their love for the First Amendment. Much of what they said seemed to be as geared toward defending BART for the shutdown as it was to establish a firm policy moving forward. The Board fell in line behind their police department, noting that training has increased, that more PR is needed to brighten their image, and disbanding the force is largely out of the question. Directors Joel Keller and Thomas Blalock said had they known of the ACLU's position earlier, they may have reconsidered their tacit approval of cutting phone service. Keller also tried to pass the buck to the new police oversight Citizen Review Board, but was shot down by other directors who felt that the matter was ultimately the BART board's responsibility. It was agreed, however, that the Citizen Review Board could make recommendations. One of the newest directors, Robert Raburn, spoke firmly in favor of free speech and against the shut down. The entire board seemed weary of the ongoing protests, which are now more frequent due to the free speech issues BART has created for itself.
Lynette Sweet was the only board member to ask questions of BART staff in order to publicly air some of the decision making that went on at the time. Apparently, there were no legal consultations that happened prior to the shutoff, other than BART legal staff being present during related discussions. Similarly, neither of the governing authorities on electronic communications were notified ahead of time, not the CPUC (California Public Utilities Commission) nor the FCC (Federal Communications Commission). Lynette Sweet stated, as have numerous critics of BART, that the real motivation was to silence dissent and to prevent potential protester disruption of BART service rather any genuine safety concerns. And, she spoke forcefully about the error of BART's ways, she was the only director who received applause from those in attendance.
Belatedly, the Board seemed to get the historic implications of what BART did and what they may later choose to do. While shying away from wanting to "tie the hands" of their police and staff to deal with protests, it appears that in the next several weeks that the BART board will establish some sort of policy that greatly increases the justification threshold upon which BART will ever shut down mobile phone antennas again. If the Board actually follows through with creating stricter guidelines, and if BART employees will respect such a policy directive, remains to be seen.
- This reporter being unable (and unwilling) to transcribe the entire meeting in a timely fashion, it is best if readers listen to the audio below for themselves. Several direct quotes from the meeting can be found in these first two links:
BART Director: “Speculation About Protest Doesn’t Warrant Cell Shutdown”
http://lafiga.firedoglake.com/2011/08/24/bart-director-speculation-about-protest-doesnt-warrant-cell-shutdown/
#BART Special Board Meeting re: Cellphone Shutdown & Protests (tweet stream)
http://effaustin.org/2011/08/bart-special-board-meeting-re-cellphone-shutdown-protests/
For background, prior to today's meeting:
BART Pulls Plug on Cell Phone Antennas - You Can Always Count on BART to Step In It
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2011/08/12/18687533.php
Anonymous OpBART Protest Shuts Down Four SF BART Stations & More, 8/15/11: Video
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2011/08/16/18687925.php
BART Hates Free Speech, Anonymous #OpBART Protest, Civic Center station, 8/22/11: video
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2011/08/23/18688466.php
For more information:
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2011/08/13/18687583.php
Public comment was varied, with several people expressing support for the decision to cut phone service. The majority however, including a representative from the ACLU, were critical of the phone service disruption. Several spoke out against protests as unsafe or an inconvenience to passengers, and several spoke in favor of protests as a means to hold BART accountable for their actions. BART was told in no uncertain terms that demonstrations will continue until the BART police are disbanded. BART was encouraged to consider the historic implications for any related decisions they may make. The pretext of safety being the cause of the phone shutdown was questioned, when BART stations are regularly packed with drunken and sometimes belligerent sports fans and no communications shutdowns have been ordered before. One speaker raised the issue of the deaf being unable to communicate and receive txt messages during the shutdown. Representatives of BART's various employee unions spoke, one claiming that safety was an issue and that locking all gates but one when stations are suddenly closed during protests is responsible policy.
The Board likewise was mixed, although most seemed to approve of the decision to cut phone service and most bought into the idea that cutting phone service somehow increased public safety, albeit while also declaring their love for the First Amendment. Much of what they said seemed to be as geared toward defending BART for the shutdown as it was to establish a firm policy moving forward. The Board fell in line behind their police department, noting that training has increased, that more PR is needed to brighten their image, and disbanding the force is largely out of the question. Directors Joel Keller and Thomas Blalock said had they known of the ACLU's position earlier, they may have reconsidered their tacit approval of cutting phone service. Keller also tried to pass the buck to the new police oversight Citizen Review Board, but was shot down by other directors who felt that the matter was ultimately the BART board's responsibility. It was agreed, however, that the Citizen Review Board could make recommendations. One of the newest directors, Robert Raburn, spoke firmly in favor of free speech and against the shut down. The entire board seemed weary of the ongoing protests, which are now more frequent due to the free speech issues BART has created for itself.
Lynette Sweet was the only board member to ask questions of BART staff in order to publicly air some of the decision making that went on at the time. Apparently, there were no legal consultations that happened prior to the shutoff, other than BART legal staff being present during related discussions. Similarly, neither of the governing authorities on electronic communications were notified ahead of time, not the CPUC (California Public Utilities Commission) nor the FCC (Federal Communications Commission). Lynette Sweet stated, as have numerous critics of BART, that the real motivation was to silence dissent and to prevent potential protester disruption of BART service rather any genuine safety concerns. And, she spoke forcefully about the error of BART's ways, she was the only director who received applause from those in attendance.
Belatedly, the Board seemed to get the historic implications of what BART did and what they may later choose to do. While shying away from wanting to "tie the hands" of their police and staff to deal with protests, it appears that in the next several weeks that the BART board will establish some sort of policy that greatly increases the justification threshold upon which BART will ever shut down mobile phone antennas again. If the Board actually follows through with creating stricter guidelines, and if BART employees will respect such a policy directive, remains to be seen.
- This reporter being unable (and unwilling) to transcribe the entire meeting in a timely fashion, it is best if readers listen to the audio below for themselves. Several direct quotes from the meeting can be found in these first two links:
BART Director: “Speculation About Protest Doesn’t Warrant Cell Shutdown”
http://lafiga.firedoglake.com/2011/08/24/bart-director-speculation-about-protest-doesnt-warrant-cell-shutdown/
#BART Special Board Meeting re: Cellphone Shutdown & Protests (tweet stream)
http://effaustin.org/2011/08/bart-special-board-meeting-re-cellphone-shutdown-protests/
For background, prior to today's meeting:
BART Pulls Plug on Cell Phone Antennas - You Can Always Count on BART to Step In It
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2011/08/12/18687533.php
Anonymous OpBART Protest Shuts Down Four SF BART Stations & More, 8/15/11: Video
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2011/08/16/18687925.php
BART Hates Free Speech, Anonymous #OpBART Protest, Civic Center station, 8/22/11: video
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2011/08/23/18688466.php
For more information:
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2011/08/13/18687583.php
For more information:
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2011/08/1...
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The performance by reps of the BART Chapters of AFSME and SEIU #1021 was pathetic . Instead of condemming the curtailment of Civil Liberties by BART Mgmt.( that any consious Trade Unionist would understand could also be used against themselves in the future say at a BART Union rally ) they uncritically backed their bosses both on the Cell ph issue and implictly on the Police shootings .
But it should be noted that the SEIU #1021 local didn't take that stance last October . The local strongly backed the ILWU initiated ' Justice for Oscar Grant ''rally last October . They strongly praised ILWU#10 's shutdown of Bay area ports demanding the Max Sentence for Johannes Mehserle (instead of the slap on the wrist that he received ) and the Local's President spoke at the rally .
Also there were a number of BART workers attending that rally despite the threats and intimidation against any that might speak out .
So as disgusting as the ''Me Too Boss ! '' groveling that occurred yesterday was it doesn't reflect the sentiments of all the Union workers at BART.
But it should be noted that the SEIU #1021 local didn't take that stance last October . The local strongly backed the ILWU initiated ' Justice for Oscar Grant ''rally last October . They strongly praised ILWU#10 's shutdown of Bay area ports demanding the Max Sentence for Johannes Mehserle (instead of the slap on the wrist that he received ) and the Local's President spoke at the rally .
Also there were a number of BART workers attending that rally despite the threats and intimidation against any that might speak out .
So as disgusting as the ''Me Too Boss ! '' groveling that occurred yesterday was it doesn't reflect the sentiments of all the Union workers at BART.
Good Morning. As you already know, I am speaking on behalf of No Justice No BART. I am that guy who comes to your meetings, so I'm not "Anonymous" to you. I tell you the things you don’t want to hear, and this won’t be any exception. Lets start with a question:
What was the first thing your police officers on Fruitvale platform did after they shot Oscar Grant in the back? They tried to confiscate video footage taken by passengers.
Let that to sink in for a moment.
What was the first thing that BART cops did, as an innocent man lay dying because of their lack of self control, and because of their mistake? Did they call an ambulance? Did they perform CPR? No. They ran around the platform confiscating passenger cell phones to prevent video of their actions from reaching the general public.
Shutting us up didn’t work then. And it is not going to work now.
But that message doesn’t seem to have gotten to you. You believe you can figure out a way to shield BART from accountability for the violent and deadly mistakes of its police. And you believe that the BART police force can, and will eventually silence our demands for justice. And so you let them shut off cell service, endangering passengers. You let them, also, lock down stations full of people, closing metal gates over all the entrances and exits, and then issue commands to 100s of people inside, to immediately evacuate the station through a single door. God forbid, if there was an earthquake Monday evening, you would have some serious hell to pay.
So let me repeat. Your counter-protest "strategy" IS NOT WORKING. Bob Franklin’s wishful thinking notwithstanding, your police are not getting better at handling protests. Your counter-protest "strategy" IS FAILING MISERABLY.
And our protest strategies, THEY ARE WORKING. You are learning what it feels like to be accountable to the public. YOU are being forced to respond to criticism instead of hiding from it.
And we know you don’t care about public safety. If you cared you would not barricade exits in stations that are still full of passengers and then demand they evacuate. And you wouldn’t turn off their ability to call 911.
And we know you don’t care about the law, because if you did you wouldnt violate the Constitution, the fire code, the California and FCC codes on communications.
BUT we know that you DO care about your image. We know you hate attention. And we know you hate, hate, hate it when people get a whiff of how bad the BART administration stinks.
No Justice No BART has been around for 3 years. And we know that our protests, these protests, are the reason, the ONLY reason you are even having this kind of a discussion right now. What we are doing is working.
Now, since you are listening, for once, let me tell you what we are NOT asking.
We are not asking you to "improve" your police "services". Certainly, there is a lot of room for improvement. You could stop letting your police get away with murdering passengers. You could hire a police chief who won’t lie to the public. You could fire deranged, racist, corrupt cops like Marisol Domenici and Tony Pirone.
But the time for making token "improvements" to your embarrassment of a police force passed decades ago. We don’t want your slightly improved version of a murderous, unaccountable, corrupt police force. So we aren’t asking you to try to fix anything. We simply do not trust you to run a police force at all.
We also don’t want you to "improve" your free speech policy. We already have a free speech policy. It is called the constitution. And we didn’t elect you to, nor would we trust you to, interpret our constitution.
And we are not asking you for permission to protest. We are going to do it anyway, regardless of your policies. Our free speech zone is wherever we happen to be standing. We find it offensive and insulting that you even think you are entitled to determine what the constitutional limits on our freedom of speech and assembly are.
Yes, right about now, you really, really want these protests to end. You want to go back to “business as usual”. But there is no going back, not if “business as usual” includes an out of control police department that brutalizes and murders innocent passengers. These protests will end when you DISBAND YOUR POLICE FORCE.
Shutting down our cell phones won't stop the protests. Arresting people won't stop the protests. Backing down and apologizing for the cell phone shutdown, while probably a good idea, won't stop the protests. If you want to stop the protests, DISBAND THE BART POLICE.
And yes, I know you all feel some sense of loyalty to these cops. And who knows, deep down, some of them might be good people and all, and maybe they have kids to feed. But none of them have any business running around our trains with guns, and none of you have any business being in charge of anyone with a gun. And this is not a fringe opinion. Even former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown, who, let me assure you, is no fan of us ‘protesters’, has stated publicly that the BART cops aren’t real police and shouldn’t carry guns.
And with that in mind, let me tell you something really sad, something that will bring this full circle. At the murder trial of your BART officer Johannes Mehserle, it was revealed that the only resistance offered by Oscar Grant and his friends was a verbal protest of their mistreatment by the BART police. Specifically, we learned that Oscar Grant said: 'Why are you fucking with me. You guys aren't even real police." Sound familiar? And it was upon hearing their authority challenged that these BART cops worked themselves into a frenzied, murderous rage. In the end, we understand that BART police beat and executed Oscar Grant… because he spoke out and criticized them.
NO JUSTICE
NO PEACE.
DISBAND THE BART POLICE.
What was the first thing your police officers on Fruitvale platform did after they shot Oscar Grant in the back? They tried to confiscate video footage taken by passengers.
Let that to sink in for a moment.
What was the first thing that BART cops did, as an innocent man lay dying because of their lack of self control, and because of their mistake? Did they call an ambulance? Did they perform CPR? No. They ran around the platform confiscating passenger cell phones to prevent video of their actions from reaching the general public.
Shutting us up didn’t work then. And it is not going to work now.
But that message doesn’t seem to have gotten to you. You believe you can figure out a way to shield BART from accountability for the violent and deadly mistakes of its police. And you believe that the BART police force can, and will eventually silence our demands for justice. And so you let them shut off cell service, endangering passengers. You let them, also, lock down stations full of people, closing metal gates over all the entrances and exits, and then issue commands to 100s of people inside, to immediately evacuate the station through a single door. God forbid, if there was an earthquake Monday evening, you would have some serious hell to pay.
So let me repeat. Your counter-protest "strategy" IS NOT WORKING. Bob Franklin’s wishful thinking notwithstanding, your police are not getting better at handling protests. Your counter-protest "strategy" IS FAILING MISERABLY.
And our protest strategies, THEY ARE WORKING. You are learning what it feels like to be accountable to the public. YOU are being forced to respond to criticism instead of hiding from it.
And we know you don’t care about public safety. If you cared you would not barricade exits in stations that are still full of passengers and then demand they evacuate. And you wouldn’t turn off their ability to call 911.
And we know you don’t care about the law, because if you did you wouldnt violate the Constitution, the fire code, the California and FCC codes on communications.
BUT we know that you DO care about your image. We know you hate attention. And we know you hate, hate, hate it when people get a whiff of how bad the BART administration stinks.
No Justice No BART has been around for 3 years. And we know that our protests, these protests, are the reason, the ONLY reason you are even having this kind of a discussion right now. What we are doing is working.
Now, since you are listening, for once, let me tell you what we are NOT asking.
We are not asking you to "improve" your police "services". Certainly, there is a lot of room for improvement. You could stop letting your police get away with murdering passengers. You could hire a police chief who won’t lie to the public. You could fire deranged, racist, corrupt cops like Marisol Domenici and Tony Pirone.
But the time for making token "improvements" to your embarrassment of a police force passed decades ago. We don’t want your slightly improved version of a murderous, unaccountable, corrupt police force. So we aren’t asking you to try to fix anything. We simply do not trust you to run a police force at all.
We also don’t want you to "improve" your free speech policy. We already have a free speech policy. It is called the constitution. And we didn’t elect you to, nor would we trust you to, interpret our constitution.
And we are not asking you for permission to protest. We are going to do it anyway, regardless of your policies. Our free speech zone is wherever we happen to be standing. We find it offensive and insulting that you even think you are entitled to determine what the constitutional limits on our freedom of speech and assembly are.
Yes, right about now, you really, really want these protests to end. You want to go back to “business as usual”. But there is no going back, not if “business as usual” includes an out of control police department that brutalizes and murders innocent passengers. These protests will end when you DISBAND YOUR POLICE FORCE.
Shutting down our cell phones won't stop the protests. Arresting people won't stop the protests. Backing down and apologizing for the cell phone shutdown, while probably a good idea, won't stop the protests. If you want to stop the protests, DISBAND THE BART POLICE.
And yes, I know you all feel some sense of loyalty to these cops. And who knows, deep down, some of them might be good people and all, and maybe they have kids to feed. But none of them have any business running around our trains with guns, and none of you have any business being in charge of anyone with a gun. And this is not a fringe opinion. Even former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown, who, let me assure you, is no fan of us ‘protesters’, has stated publicly that the BART cops aren’t real police and shouldn’t carry guns.
And with that in mind, let me tell you something really sad, something that will bring this full circle. At the murder trial of your BART officer Johannes Mehserle, it was revealed that the only resistance offered by Oscar Grant and his friends was a verbal protest of their mistreatment by the BART police. Specifically, we learned that Oscar Grant said: 'Why are you fucking with me. You guys aren't even real police." Sound familiar? And it was upon hearing their authority challenged that these BART cops worked themselves into a frenzied, murderous rage. In the end, we understand that BART police beat and executed Oscar Grant… because he spoke out and criticized them.
NO JUSTICE
NO PEACE.
DISBAND THE BART POLICE.
For more information:
http://nojusticenobart.blogspot.com/2011/0...
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