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Billionaires for Wealthcare Counter-Protest at Tea Party Pt. III
A few teabaggers braved coming into the liberal city of San Francisco in the early afternoon of April 15. They were greeted by the Billionaires for Wealthcare, who thanked them for shooting themselves in the foot.
One tea party woman brought her very embarrassed looking high school son. She said she is sure he won't need to be on his parents health care plan until he is 26 (as Obama's new health care plan allows) and stated that, "kids need to work hard and get jobs like we did".
The Billionaire/Grannies countered: That's right, and education is a privilege, not a RIGHT! The teabagging woman, who sends her son to private school, couldn't have agreed more. She also liked the idea of a Blue Cross/Palin ticket for 2012.
The Billionaire/Grannies countered: That's right, and education is a privilege, not a RIGHT! The teabagging woman, who sends her son to private school, couldn't have agreed more. She also liked the idea of a Blue Cross/Palin ticket for 2012.
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Haven't you figured out that the main use of taxation is to fund military spending with FBI/CIA/Homeland security prison state coming in a close 2nd? Health care is more reasonably handled by states. As progressive I support the Tea Party movement 100%.
DOUGLAS SHULMAN (Commissioner, Internal Revenue Service):
"I think the American people have a healthy respect for the tax system. They understand that this country has an incredible amount of benefits, ranging from freedom to a great defense system"
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124980742
DOUGLAS SHULMAN (Commissioner, Internal Revenue Service):
"I think the American people have a healthy respect for the tax system. They understand that this country has an incredible amount of benefits, ranging from freedom to a great defense system"
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124980742
When right and left meet, the intersection is fascinating. A single issue does not a platform make...
Just because some of the tea party crowd thinks large gov't money is wasted on war, does not make them "progressive". If you talk to them they are anti-immigrant, no doubt about it. How progressive is that? When left and right agree on something, it does not mean they are coming at it from the same perspective. The tea party perspective is racist! Also: does the tea party crowd think the banks that took bailouts should NOT be more heavily regulated because that would mean too much government involvement? There is a clear role for bigger gov't for health care, human rights, and economic oversight. Otherwise the corporations run rampant! This last point is what the Billionaires make when they portray wealthy elitist corporate investors.
1. Huge waste of resources on military spending
2. Terror for the rest of the world under American domination
3. Oppressive federal prison system
4. Intrusions into personal privacy and liberty
5. Interference in State autonomy and environmental regulation.
Stop trying to force your political ideas on other people. People deserve to live in a society that they feel comfortable with, not the different fascists versions of the federal police state that are advocated by the neocon right and the moldy left.
2. Terror for the rest of the world under American domination
3. Oppressive federal prison system
4. Intrusions into personal privacy and liberty
5. Interference in State autonomy and environmental regulation.
Stop trying to force your political ideas on other people. People deserve to live in a society that they feel comfortable with, not the different fascists versions of the federal police state that are advocated by the neocon right and the moldy left.
"The Tea Party Express [in Minnesota on April 8] ended its rally with tributes to 'the troops fighting for our freedom'. Gold Star mothers telling how their sons died in Iraq. Taps came over the loud speakers followed by a Toby Keith-type country-rock patriotic tune. Militarism and blind nationalism blanketed the crowd and at that point I left. One person in a crowd of 500 can’t point out that U.S. soldiers aren’t dying (and killing) for 'our freedom' but, for transnational oil companies and the domination of other people’s countries."
http://www.laprogressive.com/progressive-issues/progressives-coffee-tea-party-people/
http://www.laprogressive.com/progressive-issues/progressives-coffee-tea-party-people/
Real "progressives" recognize that corporate elites are the problem, not people of color and the poor. Tea Party people seem to have no understanding of why financial markets melted down in September 2008. They could align with true progressives in marches on Wall St. and big banks happening later this month, but they won't be doing that, no no no, they'd rather rail about taxation. They don't like the bailouts but don't see the huge banks as the problem. Instead they point the finger at Obama Administration, carry signs with a Hitler mustache on the President, and say he has “taken over” the banks and is refusing to lend to small businesses. All wrong!
Georgia wrote;
"Haven't you figured out that the main use of taxation is to fund military spending with FBI/CIA/Homeland security prison state coming in a close 2nd?"
This seems to be missed by the so called leftists who see their greatest role as protesting anything the tea party does, instead of thinking to find some common ground. Maybe some parts of the tea party are subjected to financial influences from Republican sources (as was A.N.S.W.E.R. to Democrat sources), though the idea of the original tea party protests was against the bailouts of big banks by the government. The attached regulations combined with the bailouts seems to be supported by the establishment left, though nobody seems to advocate for the idea of "never too big too fail", that self regulation would allow corporations that take foolish risks to fail on their own.
It is always easier to dismiss the opposition tea party members as "racist", by now the most overused term in our modern language used to discredit anyone who disagrees with the current neoliberal Obama regime. Replacing the neocon GW Bush regime with the neoliberal Obama regime hasn't really helped people very much. My support is not for the tea party, it is for anyone who disagrees with the current government ruling authority, whether they be Demoncrap neoliberals or Republitrash neocons.
Get this; personally i am in strong disagreement with the policies of BOTH dominant political parties, my vote was for Greens, though i also agree with Libertarians on many issues.
Who is really to big to fail!?
The bottom line seen in today's televised hearing on Goldman Sachs making billions of profits from selling their housing shorts while absorbing the other financial corporations losses combined with the billions in taxpayer dollars used to bail out these corporations should be enough to make BOTH left and right ground troops out in to public protest on tax day.
Background on Goldman Sachs;
"An internal Goldman document, prepared for senior executives and obtained by The Washington Post, describes debates among top executives in 2006 and 2007 over whether the firm should make investment decisions based on the belief that the mortgage market would continue to prosper.
The document details meetings and e-mails that ultimately resulted in a decision to reduce the company's exposure to the mortgage market, especially subprime loans, by making new investments that would pay off if housing prices fell.
Goldman has been widely criticized for investing its own money to bet against the housing market while simultaneously urging clients to invest in securities that would increase in value only if the housing market did.
Those concerns over possible double-dealing spiked a week ago as the Securities and Exchange Commission filed a fraud suit against Goldman, alleging that it misled clients by selling them mortgage-related securities secretly designed to fail.
The Senate panel will hold a hearing on investment banks and the financial crisis Tuesday. Blankfein and other executives are scheduled to testify.
In one of the e-mails obtained by the committee, Goldman chief financial officer David Viniar responded to a report that the firm earned $50 million in one day with bets that the housing market would decline.
"Tells you what might be happening to people who don't have the big short," Viniar wrote to his colleagues."
read more @;
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/04/24-4
Though i cannot pretend to understand everything taking place at the Goldman Sachs Senate inquiry hearings, i know enough to spot liars and these CEOs of GS are certainly covering up their profits quite well with pleading ignorance of their actions. How sad that the establishment left is now supporting Obama's taxpayer supported bailouts only because he attaches more regualtion to the bailouts?
Where they really to big too fail??
What would really have happened if BofA, AIG and other giants of the corporate banking/lending world had been allowed to take their natural course and had NOT been bailed out by either Bush or Obama? Do e have actual proof that the entire economic house of cards would have collapsed and plunged the U.S. into depression, or was the rampant speculation by "talking heads" warning of impending doom if we didn't bail out the billionaire bankers get to everyone's head? Seems like the establishment neoliberals bought into the scare tactics hook, line and sinker.
What about local credit unions and smaller regional banks? Would they not have been able to absorb the lost jobs and restabilize the economy from a local level? The establishment left that follows everything Obama says seems to forget that locally based smalled credit unions are far more democratic than the larger banks. Let BofA, AIG and other big banking/lending corporations collapse and go bankrupt if they make foolish choices, just as individuals who are left unemployed are on their own.
It is also disappointing to witness indybay and other so called independent news outlets taking the ideological positions of MSNBC and being the next cheerleaders for Obama. Though indybay was great as a force of resistance under the years of the neocon GW Bush regime, many people are certainly falling short under the neoliberal Obama regime. Instead of protesting taxes for military expenditures, the liberals are counterprotesting the tea party protests on tax day? What are you advocating then, more taxes for big bank bailouts?
Once again we're going to need the help of TRUE anarchists, (not the psuedo-anarcho-socialists of the establishment left who secretly support the neoliberal Obama regime), to mend fences and get the populist protest movement back in gear again.
Bailing out big banks with billions of taxpayer dollars will NEVER fix anything, other than allow for more CEO vacations to fancy resorts. Regulations will not work, as these billionaire banks have resources to hire legal aid to steer around the regulations. Let the big banks fail, no matter how big they are, and let the displaced bank workers find new jobs at local credit unions. That is true justice for the foolish risks taken by big banks. It would be far easier to regulate and work with locally owned credit unions than the big corporate banks.
Populism comes in many forms, and my suggestion for dealing with the tea party movement is to separate the "wheat from the chaff", discount the racist infiltrators and amplify the messages of the people who truly care about our collective future as government and big corporations continue to merge. Remind ourselves that facism (or corporatism) is a merger of the government and corporations, and can appear from either the left or the right. The leftist establishment that defends Obama on every turn is more of a problem for me than the tea party protesters, my goal would be to prevent the tea party from being co-opted by the Republitrash influences, as was preventing ANSWER from being co-opted by Demoncrap influences. At the end of the day, we people in the U.S. remain locked into a two party system that disallows any third party influences, so we have repeated confrontations between Tweedledee Demoncraps and Tweedledum Republitrash, with no room in between for serious debate about core issues effecting people on a daily basis. No wonder the tactics of al Queda seem more appealing to the ever increasing cynical majority than trying to find solutions within the current two party establishment system. So if there are some lone wolves out there looking for something to do, there are several CEO heads of big banks that could use some detachment from their torsos. Peace out!!
"Haven't you figured out that the main use of taxation is to fund military spending with FBI/CIA/Homeland security prison state coming in a close 2nd?"
This seems to be missed by the so called leftists who see their greatest role as protesting anything the tea party does, instead of thinking to find some common ground. Maybe some parts of the tea party are subjected to financial influences from Republican sources (as was A.N.S.W.E.R. to Democrat sources), though the idea of the original tea party protests was against the bailouts of big banks by the government. The attached regulations combined with the bailouts seems to be supported by the establishment left, though nobody seems to advocate for the idea of "never too big too fail", that self regulation would allow corporations that take foolish risks to fail on their own.
It is always easier to dismiss the opposition tea party members as "racist", by now the most overused term in our modern language used to discredit anyone who disagrees with the current neoliberal Obama regime. Replacing the neocon GW Bush regime with the neoliberal Obama regime hasn't really helped people very much. My support is not for the tea party, it is for anyone who disagrees with the current government ruling authority, whether they be Demoncrap neoliberals or Republitrash neocons.
Get this; personally i am in strong disagreement with the policies of BOTH dominant political parties, my vote was for Greens, though i also agree with Libertarians on many issues.
Who is really to big to fail!?
The bottom line seen in today's televised hearing on Goldman Sachs making billions of profits from selling their housing shorts while absorbing the other financial corporations losses combined with the billions in taxpayer dollars used to bail out these corporations should be enough to make BOTH left and right ground troops out in to public protest on tax day.
Background on Goldman Sachs;
"An internal Goldman document, prepared for senior executives and obtained by The Washington Post, describes debates among top executives in 2006 and 2007 over whether the firm should make investment decisions based on the belief that the mortgage market would continue to prosper.
The document details meetings and e-mails that ultimately resulted in a decision to reduce the company's exposure to the mortgage market, especially subprime loans, by making new investments that would pay off if housing prices fell.
Goldman has been widely criticized for investing its own money to bet against the housing market while simultaneously urging clients to invest in securities that would increase in value only if the housing market did.
Those concerns over possible double-dealing spiked a week ago as the Securities and Exchange Commission filed a fraud suit against Goldman, alleging that it misled clients by selling them mortgage-related securities secretly designed to fail.
The Senate panel will hold a hearing on investment banks and the financial crisis Tuesday. Blankfein and other executives are scheduled to testify.
In one of the e-mails obtained by the committee, Goldman chief financial officer David Viniar responded to a report that the firm earned $50 million in one day with bets that the housing market would decline.
"Tells you what might be happening to people who don't have the big short," Viniar wrote to his colleagues."
read more @;
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/04/24-4
Though i cannot pretend to understand everything taking place at the Goldman Sachs Senate inquiry hearings, i know enough to spot liars and these CEOs of GS are certainly covering up their profits quite well with pleading ignorance of their actions. How sad that the establishment left is now supporting Obama's taxpayer supported bailouts only because he attaches more regualtion to the bailouts?
Where they really to big too fail??
What would really have happened if BofA, AIG and other giants of the corporate banking/lending world had been allowed to take their natural course and had NOT been bailed out by either Bush or Obama? Do e have actual proof that the entire economic house of cards would have collapsed and plunged the U.S. into depression, or was the rampant speculation by "talking heads" warning of impending doom if we didn't bail out the billionaire bankers get to everyone's head? Seems like the establishment neoliberals bought into the scare tactics hook, line and sinker.
What about local credit unions and smaller regional banks? Would they not have been able to absorb the lost jobs and restabilize the economy from a local level? The establishment left that follows everything Obama says seems to forget that locally based smalled credit unions are far more democratic than the larger banks. Let BofA, AIG and other big banking/lending corporations collapse and go bankrupt if they make foolish choices, just as individuals who are left unemployed are on their own.
It is also disappointing to witness indybay and other so called independent news outlets taking the ideological positions of MSNBC and being the next cheerleaders for Obama. Though indybay was great as a force of resistance under the years of the neocon GW Bush regime, many people are certainly falling short under the neoliberal Obama regime. Instead of protesting taxes for military expenditures, the liberals are counterprotesting the tea party protests on tax day? What are you advocating then, more taxes for big bank bailouts?
Once again we're going to need the help of TRUE anarchists, (not the psuedo-anarcho-socialists of the establishment left who secretly support the neoliberal Obama regime), to mend fences and get the populist protest movement back in gear again.
Bailing out big banks with billions of taxpayer dollars will NEVER fix anything, other than allow for more CEO vacations to fancy resorts. Regulations will not work, as these billionaire banks have resources to hire legal aid to steer around the regulations. Let the big banks fail, no matter how big they are, and let the displaced bank workers find new jobs at local credit unions. That is true justice for the foolish risks taken by big banks. It would be far easier to regulate and work with locally owned credit unions than the big corporate banks.
Populism comes in many forms, and my suggestion for dealing with the tea party movement is to separate the "wheat from the chaff", discount the racist infiltrators and amplify the messages of the people who truly care about our collective future as government and big corporations continue to merge. Remind ourselves that facism (or corporatism) is a merger of the government and corporations, and can appear from either the left or the right. The leftist establishment that defends Obama on every turn is more of a problem for me than the tea party protesters, my goal would be to prevent the tea party from being co-opted by the Republitrash influences, as was preventing ANSWER from being co-opted by Demoncrap influences. At the end of the day, we people in the U.S. remain locked into a two party system that disallows any third party influences, so we have repeated confrontations between Tweedledee Demoncraps and Tweedledum Republitrash, with no room in between for serious debate about core issues effecting people on a daily basis. No wonder the tactics of al Queda seem more appealing to the ever increasing cynical majority than trying to find solutions within the current two party establishment system. So if there are some lone wolves out there looking for something to do, there are several CEO heads of big banks that could use some detachment from their torsos. Peace out!!
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