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Tea Party Participants Show Signs of Confusion

by Watch Out for the Right Wing
Some Signs Seen as the Extremist Right Wing "Tea Party" (TEA = Taxed Enough Already) participants descended on the intersection of Stevens Creek and Winchester in San Jose on July 5.

Top Photo: "Tea-baggers" seem to like the humorous moniker given to them by the very people that oppose them. The tea party participant here has tea bags hanging from his sign.
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Union members, *Health Care for All* Activists, San Jose Peace and Justice Center members, WILPF members, Raging Grannies, and other Single Payer Health Care Plan supporters faced off with right wingers who could use a lesson in American Government.

First of all: it isn't spelled Gov'mnt. Nor is it abbreviated that way.

Second of all: Obama is not a socialist...not even close!

Third of all: Fill in what YOU'd like to teach the Tea Party people in the *comments* section below!
§We've already got this...so what's your point?
by Just Some Kooky Signs!
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Free Market Health Care has gotten us exactly WHERE?
§T-shirt says it all
by ...
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Christian, American, Heterosexual, Pro-gun, Conservative...
and, he might have added, likes to draw animal netherparts as a pastime.
§Really kooky sign!
by Just Some Kooky Signs!
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"Clinging to my bible and guns, and now my wallet too."
§Chains You Can Believe In...Obama Care
by Just Some Kooky Signs!
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Worries about Obama at night.
§This argument was a stock talking point
by Just Some Kooky Signs!
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According to the tea party people, Canadians and Europeans are fleeing to the US because of our wonderful health care, and Japanese get most of their elective surgery done outside their own country. Sounds like a Rush Limbaugh line if you ask me....
§Gov'mnt?
by Just Some Kooky Signs!
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§Another sign
by Just Some Kooky Signs!
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Obama on a dollar bill
§Three stooges and stats
by Just Some Kooky Signs!
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§Confronted by two single payer advocates
by ...
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Health Care? Yes!
Insurance Companies? No
§Serious discussion
by ...
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At left, Tea Party Go'er with Stars and Stripes faces off with member of Steam Fitters Union and two Raging Grannies.
§As a Raging Granny was leaving...
by ,,,
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...San Jose's mounted police decided the crowd of several hundred might need closer "monitoring".
§A Raging Granny is sad...
by ...
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...that the Tea Party go-ers think that only their OWN views are patriotic. They wave their flags beyond. (Real patriots are concerned for more than their own wallets)
§On the side of Single Payer
by ...supporting Single Payer, yeah!
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§On the side of Single Payer
by Go Green
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Green Party members
§Veterans for Peace
by ...supporting Single Payer, yeah!
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§Health Care for All, David Ledesma, San Jose Peace and Justice Center, more
by Solidarity with Single Payer!
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Just some of the groups that support Single Payer and sent members to counter protest against the Tea Party were: Santa Clara County Single Payer Healthcare Coalition, Raging Grannies Action League, South Bay Mobilization, Peninsula Peace and Justice Center, One Voice!, Californians for Justice, San Jose Labor Party, San Jose WILPF(Womens International League for Peace and Freedom), and the San Jose Peace and Justice Center.
§2 of twelve Raging Grannies who came
by Rockin'!
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§The last word
by Single-Payer Advocate
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by .
I like the guy with a bar graph printed out with size 8 font, and taped on a stick.
These well fed white lower middle class idiots are a minority promoting fascism and are commonly known as the petty bourgeoisie, the backbone of fascism. They repeat the endless garbage of the fascist propaganda machine, even though they need universal healthcare, the same as everyone else. Our single payer healthcare must be based in the workingclass communities, who are literally dying as a result of the US murder machine that passes for healthcare. The figures on who supports singlepayer healthcare say it all:
From June 21, 2009 SF Chronicle, reprint from New York Times,
"Poll finds many back public health care option" at
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/06/21/MNH918AVU8.DTL

"The national telephone survey, which was conducted from June 12 to 16, found that 72 percent of those questioned supported a government-administered insurance plan - something like Medicare for those under 65 - that would compete for customers with private insurers. Twenty percent said they were opposed.”

“‘But in the poll, the proposal for a government coverage plan received broad bipartisan backing, with half of those who call themselves Republicans saying they would support a public plan, along with nearly three-fourths of independents and almost nine of 10 Democrats.” (50% of Republicans, 75% of independents and 90% of Democrats).

BUT THE DEMOCRATS IN THE US CONGRESS ARE NOT SUPPORTING SINGLE PAYER, SO THEY DO NOT REPRESENT THE 90% OF DEMOCRATS WHO SAY THEY SUPPORT SINGLE PAYER. In other words, this is no longer a protest issue among the average American; the problem is the rotten American government. IF YOUR CONGRESSPERSON IS NOT on the list supporting HR676, the Kucinich-Conyers single payer healthcare bill, call or write him or her and demand they either support HR676 or resign today, and never vote for any Congressperson who is not on the pro-HR676 list. Here is the list:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:HR00676:@@@P

Also demand that your US Senator introduce a senate version of HR676 and obtain at least 51 supporters. California has 2 Democratic senators, Feinstein & Boxer. They do not deserve your vote if they do not support single payer.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LITMUS TEST FOR YOUR CANDIDATES. The Green Party and Peace & Freedom Party always support single payer. You cannot keep voting for evil people and expect anything good to get done.

Then there is the California Legislature where Senate Bill 810, a single payer healthcare bill, is pending. See
http://www.onecarenow.org/
Here is the list of supporters:
http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill/sen/sb_0801-0850/sb_810_bill_20090529_status.html
Call or write your state assembly and senate representatives if they are not there and tell them if they do not support SB810, you will not support them if they do not support SB810.

AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A MINOR, PROTEST ISSUE. This is now simply a matter of a non-functioning government that refuses to represent us.
how much time did he spend getting the ass just right, red and all with black lines?

jesus would be proud of this latent asshole
by Peace Witch
I'm not an elementary school teacher but I don't think decision is "decisisions".
The San Jose Mercury quoted a tea party guy who described all the surgeries his mother has had as a reason for opposing health care reform. 10 to 1 she is on Medicare which is a Single Payer program, with public(government administered)financing and private providers. This is what health care reformers want but the majority in Congress won't even discuss. He is praising it at the same time he is opposing the whole idea. I'll bet a lot of the gray haired tea party folks are on Medicare too.Go figure.
by ...I was there
The police arrived on horses to get people out of the street and driveways: most of the offenders were the Tea Party mob. What a disgrace to the memory of the Boston Tea Party that bunch is! They used tactics such as surrounding the Single Payer folks and talking loudly to one another, trying to engage as many of us as possible in "answering questions" about European and Canadian and even Japanese health care arrangements. Claimed they knew ALL about it....from whom? Rush Limbaugh? One of the single payer advocates has coincidentally studied the Japanese health care as an academic research topic at the graduate level and saw immediately that the Tea Partiers have NO idea what they are talking about. But it doesn't take a Ph.D. to know that the Tea Party people have not bothered to educated themselves on any topic they claim to know so much about...they just spout stuff they hear on right wing (dumbed down) talk radio.
by brian
I must say 640_t1worst.jpg is rather hot; it's too bad he's such a closet case.
by ...
Some of them asked the single-payer advocates "How did you vote on Prop 8" and when we answered "We voted against it" they looked surprised and said "good".

They thought No on Prop 8 meant No to Gay Marriage. (Of course it's the opposite!) And the guy Brian likes, in photo with donkey drawing...what's he doing with his hand?
by Anarchist
Your battle for free healthcare seems to be at odds with the American capitalist system and you know that's why the government's dragging it's feet but you're too scared to openly admit that our system is the ROOT CAUSE of not just one social problem but a list of social problems affecting not just elderly people here in the U.S. but many people living in world. Let’s hit the root of the problem today and connect the dots so the world is no longer just a big mystery to everybody. If you are an anti-capitalist book writer, I know you fear ridicule by the press because they are all pro-business-like and are in a position of power in the world with their rhetoric and domineering attitude to try to knock you down but try not to let them scare you away from the spotlight. They’re just trying to silence you. If you know how the system works and can explain it with out having to try, please have some courage and say something. You all know we can do better with out the capitalist system and so do I. Don’t let that Fox news jackasses Bill O’rielly get away with putting the fear of god into you. Phil Donahue stood up to him against the war in Iraq. Now all we need is somebody like that with a different economic perspective willing to go toe to toe with all these neo-con yahoos. If you already know what time it is you should be on the air speaking your mind to let everybody know what’s up because if I knew everything, that is exactly what I would be doing. It does take a lot of courage for anybody to be willing to challenge the news media these days especially from an anti-capitalist or anti-government point of view and that is the reason why we don’t have a hardcore left leaning news channel to contradict everything being said by fox and or all the other less to the right news channels. And don’t tell me MSNBC and CNN are alternative news channels. Why won’t anybody with gut’s come on TV and talk about all the things they write about in their books concerning “profits over people” etc? There’s always gonna be a new generation of kids willing to get into activism agreed, but there will be much less if book writers don’t come out of the shadows and say something controversial for once. If you’re smart but are too afraid to speak then the message get’s lost and that’s too bad for any social movement in the world. I’m tired of all the talking heads dominating TV news media keeping everyone dumbed down so we may never see an up rising in this country. It’s no wonder why barely anybody can form an intelligent opinion or have a steady healthy pattern of critical thinking. The right to hear all sides has been taken away by a group of capitalist TV snobs belonging to corporations who dominate TV with commercials so that only business people can report the news with their business friendly opinions and limited criticism of the government relative to the amount of criticism that you would here on indybay.org for example. Everything that has served the rich or been friendly to the rich hasn’t served the poor or been very friendly to the poor. Now there’s a fact that you won’t hear tonight on the mainstream news.
They don’t want you to have an alternative media channel. They don’t want you to have any better view of what’s going on in the world or to find any good alternatives to their system because any alternative would ruin their system and their way of life. Alternative media with nightly news reports with anti-government and anti-capitalist opinions would have millions glued to their TV sets every night. People could be mobilized in a matter of seconds and the people will have all the power to change the world they’re living in on their own. People would stop watching all mainstream cable news channels all together and would occasionally glance back at all the non-sense they believed in still being spouted by fox. People would finally get to see the degree that they were being dumbed down by FOX and other cable news channels.
After a while people would stop watching Bill O’rielly all together. That guy is such a joke. No longer will we have to fish for alternative media online. We can watch it on TV like the free society that mainstream media loves to claim we already live in but this time it will be really free and when things don’t turn out good where politicians revolt against the will of the people, alternative TV will help you where to go and what to do about it. Our numbers will be just as big as our viewers in the millions and not even the military will be able to stop us and we can raise some serious hell if even tried. Now that’s real people power right there. No longer will we have to hear people tell us that the information we get on line is garbage because if it’s on TV or in the paper it must be so according to the way many think. We’ll finally have some good credibility there. If you’re wondering The TV channel will be free just like universal healthcare.
This alternative TV can be used for all the struggles in the world being ignored by the mainstream media. I can already tell you are liking this idea very much! No more TV domination by mainstream people with their mainstream attitudes and mainstream clothing doing everything only that the corporation tells them to do and filtering facts that does not go along with it’s own agenda. Nope, just think if you could get news uncensored. Wouldn’t that be nice? You would get to see everything.

If writers continue this sort of behind the scenes semi-underground activism where they stay out of the spotlight, not much is going to be done for change. We need educated people to come on and help stir up the public so that more people will get excited and involved when ever people come out break the ordinary silence of everyday life. If windows are being smashed at the gap, we need a news channel to tell from an anti-business perspective on why the windows were smashed and who the windows belonged to and then fox news reporters con come on our show and debate why it was the right thing to do. This is a great idea and the republicans are going to love it because it’s fair and balanced. The conservatives get to have their far-right news channel FOX NEWS that represents everything that is greedy, UGLY and evil about today’s society in government, business, and the banking system but we don’t have a far left channel to bring real balance to the equation that would be anti-business, anti-government and against the banking system. Instead we get CNN owned by Time Warner with Wolf Blitzer and MSNBC with guys like Scarborough and Pat Buchanan and their owned by the General Electric Company. What the Fuck bullshit alternative media is this shit? It is my understanding that people are immorally being denied their right to alternative sources of information on TV and this is how they dumb us down so we have no choice but resorting to getting our info of the internet which by the way get’s scorned from just about every angel there is to discredit everything we say so those in the business elite that are in power can stay in power. WE ARE UNFAIRLY BEING DEPRIVED of the truth while being fed all of this pro-war and pro-business commercial over-sensational baloney crap. It’s all a bunch of non-sense. I’d go up there my self into the spotlight say something if I had the credentials and knew everything there is to be known about economics but even if I knew everything, what kind of a low profile anarchist would I be? Low Profile no more is what. Anybody who has written a book has already surrendered their anonymity so they may as well go before the camera enough times for everyone to remember them.


Many people already understand that capitalism is the root of all our problems. Grassroots socialism with minimal government with zero government being the goal is the best alternative to war and globalization. Not only do we need the brains but we also need the man power. If people are still afraid, our numbers will be small in the streets and any attempt at rebellion will be crushed. If fears of negative publicity and being labeled a communist is all they have to use on us to make us behave then we’ll just remain pathetic! Sorry but it’s the truth. Every journalist doing the criticizing with news cameras rolling are obviously on the far right since the far right pro business own media.



If we let them decide for us that we need to be rich in order to be able to afford our own alternative news channel or program then we’re letting them decide what everybody is supposed to hear which is more of the same boring, commercial, crap of lies. American journalists criticize other countries governments and how oppressed their people are and get away with it because they have successfully lulled everybody into a trace that they are some how better than those countries as if the police didn’t have a history of committing the same offenses in America in times of great crises and political upheavals in times of wars etc. You can try as hard as you want but that shit ain’t working on me cause I ain’t buyin it. If only we could reach the masses some how would there be a possibility of become a peace loving nation even though I my self as an anarchist oppose borders that make nations that start these wars with each other. And that’s the reason for the anarchists “no borders no nations no flags and patriots” slogan. I’m not very happy with having a big brother or big bully managing our everyday lives either. But a peace loving nation is better than an imperialist warmongering nation that lies about caring for people and respecting people’s rights. I can go over many reasons why there should be revolt in this country. The number of reasons for revolution is endless, so endless that people have written entire books about it. That’s a lot of reasons and it’s pretty fucking disgusting there is really that much corruption going on in this government and nobody believing they can do anything about until the next election. What disgrace. I wish people could catch on to anarchism sooner. As an anarchist you are not bound by anything and anything is possible and your mind is free. You’re not gonna change the world thinking like everybody else and following every law that is written, I’m sorry. Nope ain’t gonna happen. I really wish this revolution would happen already. This place makes democracy look like a complete joke. And I don’t feel like leaving the country unless I can bring all my friends and family with me. If we can only be anarchists theoretically we should at least not have to beg the government for free healthcare. Free people don’t have to beg. Free people just take what’s already there’s and if the government has anything to say we can handle it. Free people don’t die because they can’t afford medical treatment. Free people give orders to their government not the other way around. Free people don’t have a government watching over them 24/7 like George Orwell’s book “1984”. Free people don’t have a government that tells them what they can and can’t have. Isn’t great to be an American? MSNBC needs to turn up the volume and kick general electric to the curb. Talking heads in the media have a lot of good thing to say about America but the people in charge sure don’t do a lot of what’s being said in the media and no one bothers to point that out for some reason. Profit is the problem. The bottom line is the problem. Money is the problem. And government is the problem. Once you come to this realization it will drive you nuts because once you figure it out it feels like it’s been staring you in the face all along and when you realize it, it feels as if people are taking forever catch up to what you know and what needs to be done which everybody saying “the hell with all of this time fuck shit up and start over from scratch”.

You can make money off of anything these days and most things profitable have no consideration for your health, life, limb, environment, etc. “STOP THIS COMMUNISTIC NON-SENSE”!

Oh, don’t listen to them. Like I said who cares about what they think. They won’t shed a tear or lose one bit of sleep when you die so why spend the rest of your life trying to appease the conservatives when all they want to conserve is your servitude to them? It’s all done by operating with in their money system. “YOU ARE A COMMUNIST”. Stop listening to that man. Stop hurting your self to protect your image. Your life means more than your image. They make you worry so much about your image that you forget about your own pursuit for life, liberty, and happiness, or your right to self determination. You see now how manipulative and domineering they are. They make everyone afraid to talk and that’s how they control people. “Only a communist would want to get rid of the capitalist system” repeated over and over and over again is a mind-control technique. Apparently it works but it only works if you allow it to be done on you. Thankfully I’m not one of these people who fall so easily for their little tricks. You have to ask your self do I want to live a full and happy life or do I want to live a sick and short one always stressing about what Rush Limbaugh is going to say when I voice my opposition to capitalism? Just say it if it’s on your mind. Fuck it. Say “I HATE CAPITALISM IT SUCKS”! There! Now you feel better. The message was made simple and loud and clear! The failure to make the connection is no more and now things begin to make sense for everybody all over the place and now you’ve got peoples attention asking questions. “ARE YOU A COMMUNIST?” And then you tell them “my beliefs are socialistic” and the conversation starts from there. The hope with getting media attention is to reach out to all the Americans that are watching TV. They are stuck in a trance for their own enslavement and with just one alternative news channel we can snap them out of it. They are in a dream world. We have to go into the dream world so we can pull them out of there. It’s the only way unless somebody knows how to do pirate broadcasting just like the movie “They Live and V”. That would be pretty neatto if that were to happen. One would hope this growing momentum in numbers would materialize with every economic summit where nation leaders of the greedy business elite hysterically struggle to discover new ways on how to save their greedy economic system at the barrel of a gun belonging to a jackbooted thug with a badge all dressed up in black uniform. I thought their uniforms used to be blue? Do you ever wonder why they changed the color? How strange. For those wanting to be informed the American police are now a paramilitary unit and have no remorse for anyone. That’s means they would have no objections in violating your rights when they are given the order to do so to defend the business interests of the United States of America as they have done so in the past at other economic summits such as the WTO. Business comes first! Your health and your freedom last or maybe never! The main problem is so blatantly obvious today that it hurts me when people ignore the issue just because they know it’s not up for negotiation the problem is the system it self. This quest for endless profit is also what got us stuck in the Middle East Quagmire. “America is addicted to oil” Those are the words of George W. Bush. Those who already understand that they cannot vote their way out of the system but say nothing about it need to speak up. Say something to somebody, anybody. Just strike up a conversation. Try to get something going. Someone with a grand view of the world should stand up and do something big to break the silence. And what about the biggest challenge of them all? Finding the time? The capitalist system stole us away from our own time so that we are defenseless against it. It enslaves us so that there’s no time to organize so we can fight back. You might have heard these words or used them your self, “No time to think I got to go to work”. Rush rush rush, got to go got to go. Don’t be late don’t be late.


“Do you want to be denied basic human necessities?”

No!

“Okay then, don’t ask questions and do as you are told and you have a job.”

I feel like I’ve been blackmailed.

“Yeah, well there’s nothing you can do about it, now you can be fired for messing with the bottom-line or you can go fetch a stack of orders for me all day long and still have a job tomorrow. Take your pick.”

About this time you are ready to invert the boss’s nose back into his ugly skull BUT, no we all conform by hiding our tail between our legs and saying “yes sir yes sir” and we just go back to work. But the dream of standing up and hitting your asshole boss and being able to get away with it will always be there. Capitalism will never give you the time necessary in order to bring it down and wait as if some how time will be magically given to you is a lost cause and a pipe dream and even if capitalism gave you the time off work then chances are likely you wouldn’t be such a slave to it anymore and the reason for bringing it down would be so high because more time for your self means you have the system in check which means you have some rights. There sure is a lot to complain about when people are saying they don’t have time to pay attention to what the state is doing to them.

Same reason for why we failed to prevent the war in Iraq. Capitalism has got you in a strangle hold position. When we are really in charge we can stop doing what ever we’re doing in times of emergency to unite in order to force the people in charge to change or get out and have a job still the next day. Wouldn’t that be nice? As long as the priorities are fixed to where the companies bottom line must come first we don’t run a damn thing and to pretend otherwise would be just lying to your self. We just live to pay bills, taxes and take orders everyday till we die and nothing changes it seems. G, so that’s what we were put here on earth to do. What a useless existence. There needs to be self governance and we can’t just let greed rule everything forever. There has to be an end somewhere in sight. This Obama hero guys is falling back on all his promises and giving bails out to the rich and people are sitting back just because he’s still new as if the reason for him to break promises was due to him being an amateur president. Unacceptable! I think selling out this early in his presidency is rightful justification for impeachment if not revolution. Something has to be done. Somebody needs to call him on his shit. This is just getting ridiculous that people just stand around and let things happen to them all the time. Where is all the rioting? What ever happened to writing history? We don’t make history anymore. We just read about it and then forget about it. That suxs!

“Oh, well!” Yeah right!

It is my opinion that anyone who truly believes that we can live in harmony with the capitalist system is out of touch with their reality and needs to have their head examined.
I’m just frustrated and want to see things happen and when I see people beg their government for free this and free that so they can go back to their lives and let the government deal with all our problems I go buts. We shouldn’t have to ask politely. It’s like the little kid in the sand box begging the bully for his right to have rights. It’s just fucking pathetic. What ever happened to taking a bat to the fat bully’s ugly head and feeling good about it after? It’s funny to me how people think living a life with out this bully would be chaos rather than freedom from oppression. It’s funny to me that in a democracy we have to live with this bully and have to ask it for permission to do anything or answer to it when doing stuff with out asking. If democracy means freedom then what kind of democracy is this we live in I ask?

THE IDEA THAT YOU HAVE TO ASK THE GUYS IN CHARGE FOR FREEDOM EVERY TIME SHOULD BE MAKING THE GUYS IN CHARGE LOOK LIKE ASSHOLES! HOW CAN ANYONE NOT SEE IT FROM THE SAME PERSPECTIVE? ARE PEOPLE THAT INSTITUTIONALIZED & DESENSITIZED?


Don’t make it so easy for the right wing to regulate freedom of speech by exploiting your own insecurity weak spots. You got to rise above giving in all the time. If you’re on the same level, you need to speak out against the evils of our system and call this evil out for what it is, CAPITALISM! THE RICH ARE GETTING RICHER AND THE POOR ARE GETTING POORER.



By the way

I hate it how all these "rightwing NEO-CONS" act like they own the 2nd Amendment as if the second amendment right were only a conservative issue and liberals could care less if the government did away with this right. I support the right to own a gun because I understand the purpose behind owning one. It’s about protecting your self from the federal government.

Only a dictator would support disarmament which is yet to be done. There would have to be a big event to trigger a Martial law crackdown for them to go confiscating firearms which would be the perfect time to fire back when they try and if we don’t fire back we will be fucked!

That’s what really going on.
Before medicare came into being, our family got along fine with or without minimal health insurance--saw the doctor--got the bill and paid it. After medicare, we moved up to full coverage health insurance--got along fine with that and planned to keep it (paying the premiums) the rest of our lives. But guess what--that was not an option--once you hit 65 the GOVERNMENT REQUIRES you to sign up for medicare. We don't want people taking care of themselves. And then the great insurance plan I had previously became known as my secondary. Sure, we go to the doctor and medicare pays, but the doctors hate dealing with the government, and trust me, many of the doctors I've talked to plan to close their doors before they will work for the government. Let's go back to the old way--pay as you go. Half the people on Medicare don't need it, but it gives the government more power and control--exactly what they're after.

I remember a picture of Melvin Belli (SF attorney) on the front page of the SF Chronicle handing the first Medicare check to the owner of the Mark Hopkins hotel in his hospital room--like he needed me to pay for his medical bills. Bunk!!!!
by ...what's UP with azLady?
America will not be healthy until EVERYONE in America has health care. AzLady needs to think beyond her own needs and look to the community and the country she lives in.
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