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"Waltz With Bashir" opened in theaters across the Bay Area.

by M.
Last week, "Waltz With Bashir" opened in theaters across the Bay Area. The movie concentrates on stories and experiences of Israeli soldiers who invaded Lebanon in 82'. Following Ari Folman's journey to retrieve his memory, the viewers are shown a glimpse of the atrocities and war crimes committed by the Israeli Army and its allies in Lebanon.
"Waltz with Bashir" speaks through the medium of animation and recollection. The memories of the soldiers are detailed as part interviews, part real depictions. The story starts with the nightmare of one soldier in which he is pursued by the dogs that he killed during the war. He explained that Israeli soldiers were instructed to shoot the dogs because they served to alert the Palestinians of the approach of Israeli troops.

The idea of memory is central to the movie—the loss of memory about the horrors of that invasion and the doubts about the reliability of the memories. One soldier describes fleeing a ship, carried away by a giant woman, another, describes rising out of the sea with fellow soldiers. The blurriness of the borderline between what is real and what is not, is stressed from the beginning of the movie and serves as a central motif throughout it.

These flights of unreality are intercut with the testimony of Israeli soldiers describing running into ambushes, and trying to capture resistant fighters. The movie, however, is centered on the memories of soldiers who witnessed the massacre at Shabra and Shatila, carried out by the Christian Phalanges under the protective wing of the Israeli army. One soldier, upon witnessing a whole family being executed by the Israeli allies, describes calling his superiors, only to receive the answer "we are aware of that, it's under control". Another soldier describes informing Ariel Sharon, then the defense ministry, of that massacre, to no avail.

"Waltz With Bashir" confines its attention to the trauma that besets many soldiers serving in imperialist armies through the horrible crime that they are ordered to commit and are far too often too afraid to disobey, on pains of being imprisoned as deserters or of being killed for their disobedience. The high level of PTSD suffered by soldiers serving in Iraq & Afghanistan as well as the present-day unprecedented suicide rates within the US military attest to this phenomenon. Doing the dirty work of US imperialism against the Palestinians exacts not only a dreadful toll on the Palestinians but also on the Israeli soldiers whose "duty" is to "get the job done." Unfortunately, those Israeli soldiers who were sickened by their "duty" did not face a strong Palestinian resistance and did not have the backing of a powerful anti-war movement in Israel that would have empowered them to rebel against their officers, as happened during the Vietnam War with the American soldiers on the Cambodian border.
The reality of the horrors of the Israeli invasion and occupation of Lebanon is brought home powerfully by the way the film ends—there is a sudden, jolting shift from animation to live footage of Palestinians mourning the dead who were massacred.

"Waltz with Bashir" is a powerful anti-war movie. However, its impact would be enhanced by familiarity with the historical context of the film. The 1972 Zionist invasion of Lebanon, orchestrated by Ariel Sharon, gave rise to 18 years of occupation by the Israeli military and their brutal allies, the Phalanges. The movie itself does not explain the motive behind Israel's disregard of the peace agreement with the PLO, or the justification for intervening in Lebanon's internal affair by installing the Israeli puppet Bashir Gayamel as head of state. Neither does it give any explanation of why the US has armed and protected the Zionist state since its birth. It is part of a small but quite possibly growing trend of "Refuseniks" in Israel itself.
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by ...
>"Doing the dirty work of US imperialism against the Palestinians exacts not only a dreadful toll on the Palestinians but also on the Israeli soldiers whose 'duty' is to 'get the job done.' "

This is a quote from above.
It seems to me Israel is not carrying out any sort of US imperialist mission by attacking Palestinians.
The relationship between the US government and Israel is completely opposite that of the norm.
It is Israel that is firmly in control. It attacks Palestinians, Syrians, Lebanese, and previously Egyptians and Jordanians as it pleases and congressmen and senators stumble over themselves to pay for it all.

While I applaud some Israeli soldiers for being refuseniks, what I would really like to see is people finding out what happened first hand from the victims themselves. For the 1982 invasion of Lebanon, that would be Lebanese and Palestinians who were there or had family members there at the time.

One such Lebanese woman was prevented from speaking at a Nuclear Weapons protest during that summer in 1982 even though a real armageddon was happening right there in her homeland by Israel.

The main problem with the above is the repitition that somehow "US Imperialism" was responsible for Israel's invasion of Lebanon...as though we asked them to invade. Truth is they invaded for their own Zionist Terrorist reasons -- to literally murder and terrify the Lebanese and Palestinian populations.

Many in the Left have for too long wanted to believe that it was US imperialism behind Israel's actions. Wake up! Zionists are quite evil on their own.
I would also add it exacts a far, far greater toll on the Palestinians (and Lebanese) than on the Israeli soldiers committing the crimes. Any sort of equating the criminals with their victims is dubious at best.

For instance, this statement:
"Doing the dirty work of the Nazi Party against the Jews exacts not only a dreadful toll on the Jews but also on the German soldiers whose 'duty' is to 'get the job done.' "

Get it!?
by M.
In the above article I never argued that somehow Israeli soldiers are suffering more then Palestinians or that Zionists are not “evil on their own”. I just suggested some insite to a movie that I think is important.
I would also like to hear from the victim themselves and I never denied anyone from speaking in 82’. I really don’t understand what you are trying to accuse me of. You don’t know my personal history or my views on issues like that.
In your world the left is A or B, and your running to form an opinion of me is shallow, at best. But what more surprising to me is your inability to understand the importance of the movie in its own right, or the complexity of the situation.
by ...
>"I never argued that somehow Israeli soldiers are suffering more then Palestinians..."

I never said that you argued that Israeli soldiers suffered more.
I argued you were equating those who committed war crimes with their victims in this sentence from the original article.

>"Doing the dirty work of US imperialism against the Palestinians exacts not only a dreadful toll on the Palestinians but also on the Israeli soldiers whose 'duty' is to 'get the job done.' "

Simply juxtaposing names from other conflicts between the powerful and powerless is revealing (as I pointed out in the second comment).

I also believe that by claiming they were merely following US imperialism, you absolve them of their true guilt. Israelis are not simply "doing the dirty work of US imperialism" but are doing this for their own reasons, exclusively. They were not asked to invade Lebanon by this country but were itching to out of hate and an expansionist ideology.

I don't know if this movie is good...it may very well be.

Anyone who really wants to learn about the invasion of Lebanon by Israel in 1982 though should read Noam Chomsky's "The Fateful Triangle." This is the definitive text on the subject.
by Sam Scheffler
Please note that the Israeli Government has paid for 'Waltz with Bashir' to be screened all over the world during its latest escapade in Gaza. The reason: 'Waltz with Bashir' humanizes Israeli soldiers who undertake its work. While the film perhaps questions aspects and excesses of the 1982 invasion of Lebanon--conspicuously focusing attention on Israel's "indirect" rather than "direct" complicity in Sabra-Shatila, as if that distinction is supposed to mean anything--it ignores the illegality of the invasion itself which took the lives of 18,000. For these reasons, perhaps, the film has been banned in Lebanon. Screw Ari Folman and his memory.
by Mike Khalil
What an uncritical review! Whence the notion that this is an antiwar movie? Just because it is billed as "antiwar" by its director and by the government that pays for its screening all over the world while it massacres Gaza? Perhaps in another 20 years Israelis will create another cartoon depicting its massacre in Gaza by 'deeply conflicted' soldiers with whom the audience is invited to sympathize.
by Abu Ibrahim
Why is this such a large portion of Indybay being devoted to what is essentially an Israeli propaganda piece? The victims of the Shabra and Shatila massacre were not the Israeli soldiers, anymore than the victims of Auschwitz were the German soldiers. What's next, in twenty years they'll be making a movie about Gaza from the perspective of an Israeli soldier?
by Junse Park
"Waltz with Bashir" has beautiful animation and music---but it also absolves Israel of any blame having to do with Shabra and Shatila, and completely dehumanizes the Palestinians, either leaving them out completely or showing them as faceless screaming figures in the background. It's an extremely narcissistic film, focusing entirely on the suffering of the Zionists and ignoring the narrative of the oppressed (the Palestinians and the Lebanese who were killed by Israel during the 80s). Indeed, the film implies that the massacre at the S & S camps is only meaningful because it is evocative of "those other camps" (i.e. Auschwitz). The present suffering of the Palestinians has been co-opted in order to serve as a reminder of previous Jewish suffering, thus reinforcing the Zionist narrative (i.e. we are the only people to have ever suffered this much, and therefore we are entitled to do as we please).

Thus in spite of its artistic merit, "Waltz with Bashir" never rises above the level of vulgar propaganda. I would not recommend that anyone see the film, I only saw it because I obtained a bootleg copy and thus did not pay any money to an Israeli production company. If we are serious about BDS (Boycott Divestment Sanctions), then we should not buy any Israeli products and that includes cultural and entertainment products such as Waltz with Bashir.

It is shameful that a website which has been a place to coordinate the expression of Palestinian solidarity and support should devote so much space to a film which is essentially a Zionist PR campaign. Take it down immediately!
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