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Resisting the Racist Blame Game Post Prop 8
While the media casts blame on communities of color for the failure of civil rights for LGBT people, it is imperative that we struggle against the logic that tells us that struggles for LGBT civil rights and racial justice are separate, and that we examine our strategies for advancing LGBT civil rights and gay marriage and, in particular, look at places where LGBT communities have failed to align our struggles for civil rights with ongoing struggles for racial justice.
Dear Friends,
I am writing because I am disturbed by the string of articles, blog entries, and list serve threads that have come out in the last few days suggesting that the high turnout of African American and Latino voters for the presidential election was responsible for the passage of California’s proposition 8, which dealt a heavy blow to LGBT families by banning gay marriage.
These articles mistakenly imply that the struggles for civil rights for LGBT people and communities of color are separate or even at odds with each other. They deny the work that LGBT people of color do to combat homophobia and transphobia in their families and communities, often while facing racism within the queer community as well. These articles deny homophobia among white people, and they displace blame away from those who actually have the power to consistently deny others civil and human rights, and instead, charge that when communities that have long been disenfranchised and alienated from political processes begin to participate, that the results with be negative for LGBT people.
I believe all communities need to be held accountable for their homophobia and transphobia. I want to acknowledge the suffering and hardship that the passage of Proposition 8 has caused for LGBT couples and families. But, while the media casts blame on communities of color for the failure of civil rights for LGBT people, it is imperative that we struggle against the logic that tells us that struggles for LGBT civil rights and racial justice are separate, and that we examine our strategies for advancing LGBT civil rights and gay marriage and, in particular, look at places where LGBT communities have failed to align our struggles for civil rights with ongoing struggles for racial justice.
In the months leading up the election, I saw a massive mobilization within the queer spaces in which I spend time in San Francisco to get people to vote no on 8. We live in a state that has one of the highest incarceration rates in a nation with the highest incarceration rate in the world. Studies have estimated that at any time, 40 percent of black men in their 20’s in California are under control of the correctional system. Criminalization affects many LGBT people, in particular, those that may be experiencing addiction or who, lacking familial support, move to expensive cities where they may have a hard time accessing affordable housing and living-wage work. Despite this, I saw little or no public discourse among LGBT people about very important state propositions: 5, 6, and 9, all of which potentially impacted things like funding for prisons, alterations to sentencing for drug crimes, or the trying of minors as adults in this state.
In the last months, we have seen raids by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) throughout the state and in San Francisco. Many people immigrate here as a result of the US foreign policy of destabilizing foreign economies. Additionally, San Francisco is home to many LGBT immigrants who have come to the country seeking safety and asylum. While my inbox was flooded with emails pertaining to Prop 8, I heard from very few queer people who were seeking to mobilize around the October 31st demonstration to protest ICE raids, or other work pertaining to ICE raids, and San Francisco’s establishment as a sanctuary city.
The November ballot contained several important city initiatives that could have affected the livability of our city both for low-income people of color and for many queer people. Proposition K, an initiative to decriminalize prostitution would have helped sex workers in this city to make major strides in their ability to organize for their rights and safety, allowing them to better protect themselves against violence and police harassment. Despite the fact that many, many young LGBT people in this city earn their livings as sex workers and daily face risks to their safety, and that two trans women working as sex workers lost their lives while working in San Francisco in 2007, I saw shockingly little effort among LGBT people to educate themselves on the realities facing sex workers or the background on Proposition K, let alone to spread any word about it.
Similarly, proposition B, which would have mandated that the city set aside part of its budget for affordable housing was defeated by SF voters. In a city with a history of racist schemes of redevelopment and displacement (SOMA in the 60’s, Justin Herman’s redevelopment of the Fillmore, illegal evictions in the Mission in the 90s, contemporary cuts to county welfare, and most recently, the gentrification of Bayview—to name a few), San Francisco voters have failed to stand up for working families’ ability to live affordably in this city—a city with where remaining working class communities of color face major threats of displacement. Despite the fact that white LGBT people often play complicated roles in the gentrification of the city and displacement of communities of color, I saw no media reports released on November 5th scrutinizing the voting trends of white LGBT San Franciscans on Propositions B, N, K, 5, 6, or 9, as juxtaposed to the numerous articles scrutinizing the voting habits of Black and Latino voters on Prop 8. And despite the overwhelmingly negative outcome of several important local and state propositions, outcry among the wider LGBT community seems to have been reserved only for Prop 8.
As a young, queer, person living in San Francisco, I feel very strongly that affordably in this city is vital to the creativity and well being of the LGBT community of San Francisco. As a white person living in the Mission, I have to think and act critically in regards to the complicated role I play in the gentrification of this neighborhood and the larger schemes of displacement within this city. I love my queer life and love living in this city. I get to witness the ways of living and congregating, making new families, new cultures, and envisioning new worlds that are possible living in a city with so many other brilliant and creative queer people. While I would like to lend my support and compassion to the people who lost the right to marry this week, I also question the logic that tells me that my only struggle as an LGBT person centers around my right to marry, rather than my ability to live and create in many other ways within a city I love. Affordable housing is central to the vitality of the LGBT community in San Francisco, to all communities, and while I sign petitions to support marriage as a right, I would like to see LGBT Californians take a serious look at the fact that housing, healthcare, and freedom from incarceration are also civil and human rights.
I would like to see LGBT Californians talk not only about their right to receive their partners’ health benefits but about universal healthcare. I would like to hear us talk not just about how many LGBT people’s partners cannot receive citizenship rights because of a lack of marriage rights, but connect this to struggles for immigrant rights in this state. I would like to hear LGBT people not only talk about how their families are discriminated against, but think about how many families in California are living in alternative family structures because of the mass incarceration of parents with children.
The passing of Proposition 8 is a sad day and indicative of the work that lies ahead, however, as we heal from these blows, I would like to challenge us to consider how our struggles are bound up with struggles for racial and economic justice, and how our fight for civil rights, and the health of our communities could be strengthened by taking these connections more seriously. Above all, I would like to challenge us to resist racist media schemes that, during our moment of need and a moment of possibility, are attempting to pit LGBT people and supporters against communities of color in California.
I am writing because I am disturbed by the string of articles, blog entries, and list serve threads that have come out in the last few days suggesting that the high turnout of African American and Latino voters for the presidential election was responsible for the passage of California’s proposition 8, which dealt a heavy blow to LGBT families by banning gay marriage.
These articles mistakenly imply that the struggles for civil rights for LGBT people and communities of color are separate or even at odds with each other. They deny the work that LGBT people of color do to combat homophobia and transphobia in their families and communities, often while facing racism within the queer community as well. These articles deny homophobia among white people, and they displace blame away from those who actually have the power to consistently deny others civil and human rights, and instead, charge that when communities that have long been disenfranchised and alienated from political processes begin to participate, that the results with be negative for LGBT people.
I believe all communities need to be held accountable for their homophobia and transphobia. I want to acknowledge the suffering and hardship that the passage of Proposition 8 has caused for LGBT couples and families. But, while the media casts blame on communities of color for the failure of civil rights for LGBT people, it is imperative that we struggle against the logic that tells us that struggles for LGBT civil rights and racial justice are separate, and that we examine our strategies for advancing LGBT civil rights and gay marriage and, in particular, look at places where LGBT communities have failed to align our struggles for civil rights with ongoing struggles for racial justice.
In the months leading up the election, I saw a massive mobilization within the queer spaces in which I spend time in San Francisco to get people to vote no on 8. We live in a state that has one of the highest incarceration rates in a nation with the highest incarceration rate in the world. Studies have estimated that at any time, 40 percent of black men in their 20’s in California are under control of the correctional system. Criminalization affects many LGBT people, in particular, those that may be experiencing addiction or who, lacking familial support, move to expensive cities where they may have a hard time accessing affordable housing and living-wage work. Despite this, I saw little or no public discourse among LGBT people about very important state propositions: 5, 6, and 9, all of which potentially impacted things like funding for prisons, alterations to sentencing for drug crimes, or the trying of minors as adults in this state.
In the last months, we have seen raids by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) throughout the state and in San Francisco. Many people immigrate here as a result of the US foreign policy of destabilizing foreign economies. Additionally, San Francisco is home to many LGBT immigrants who have come to the country seeking safety and asylum. While my inbox was flooded with emails pertaining to Prop 8, I heard from very few queer people who were seeking to mobilize around the October 31st demonstration to protest ICE raids, or other work pertaining to ICE raids, and San Francisco’s establishment as a sanctuary city.
The November ballot contained several important city initiatives that could have affected the livability of our city both for low-income people of color and for many queer people. Proposition K, an initiative to decriminalize prostitution would have helped sex workers in this city to make major strides in their ability to organize for their rights and safety, allowing them to better protect themselves against violence and police harassment. Despite the fact that many, many young LGBT people in this city earn their livings as sex workers and daily face risks to their safety, and that two trans women working as sex workers lost their lives while working in San Francisco in 2007, I saw shockingly little effort among LGBT people to educate themselves on the realities facing sex workers or the background on Proposition K, let alone to spread any word about it.
Similarly, proposition B, which would have mandated that the city set aside part of its budget for affordable housing was defeated by SF voters. In a city with a history of racist schemes of redevelopment and displacement (SOMA in the 60’s, Justin Herman’s redevelopment of the Fillmore, illegal evictions in the Mission in the 90s, contemporary cuts to county welfare, and most recently, the gentrification of Bayview—to name a few), San Francisco voters have failed to stand up for working families’ ability to live affordably in this city—a city with where remaining working class communities of color face major threats of displacement. Despite the fact that white LGBT people often play complicated roles in the gentrification of the city and displacement of communities of color, I saw no media reports released on November 5th scrutinizing the voting trends of white LGBT San Franciscans on Propositions B, N, K, 5, 6, or 9, as juxtaposed to the numerous articles scrutinizing the voting habits of Black and Latino voters on Prop 8. And despite the overwhelmingly negative outcome of several important local and state propositions, outcry among the wider LGBT community seems to have been reserved only for Prop 8.
As a young, queer, person living in San Francisco, I feel very strongly that affordably in this city is vital to the creativity and well being of the LGBT community of San Francisco. As a white person living in the Mission, I have to think and act critically in regards to the complicated role I play in the gentrification of this neighborhood and the larger schemes of displacement within this city. I love my queer life and love living in this city. I get to witness the ways of living and congregating, making new families, new cultures, and envisioning new worlds that are possible living in a city with so many other brilliant and creative queer people. While I would like to lend my support and compassion to the people who lost the right to marry this week, I also question the logic that tells me that my only struggle as an LGBT person centers around my right to marry, rather than my ability to live and create in many other ways within a city I love. Affordable housing is central to the vitality of the LGBT community in San Francisco, to all communities, and while I sign petitions to support marriage as a right, I would like to see LGBT Californians take a serious look at the fact that housing, healthcare, and freedom from incarceration are also civil and human rights.
I would like to see LGBT Californians talk not only about their right to receive their partners’ health benefits but about universal healthcare. I would like to hear us talk not just about how many LGBT people’s partners cannot receive citizenship rights because of a lack of marriage rights, but connect this to struggles for immigrant rights in this state. I would like to hear LGBT people not only talk about how their families are discriminated against, but think about how many families in California are living in alternative family structures because of the mass incarceration of parents with children.
The passing of Proposition 8 is a sad day and indicative of the work that lies ahead, however, as we heal from these blows, I would like to challenge us to consider how our struggles are bound up with struggles for racial and economic justice, and how our fight for civil rights, and the health of our communities could be strengthened by taking these connections more seriously. Above all, I would like to challenge us to resist racist media schemes that, during our moment of need and a moment of possibility, are attempting to pit LGBT people and supporters against communities of color in California.
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Bravo! Thanks so much for posting this. Communities of color are no more responsible for this passage than the rest of the ignorant white folks who voted yes on this as well. We need to reach out with open hands to all struggles for equality- and it can be hard. But we must face our own demons of prejudice in order to conquer them and come together. That is our challenge and the only way we will win these battles. Stay strong!
As a radical queer and marriage abolitionist I believe the “rights” gained through marriage should be available to us all. Also, I and many others, have argued for years that the mainstream LBGT movement should not be funneling millions of dollars and endless resources into a fight that will not benefit the majority of the most marginalized queers (For example if neither person has health care, like the majority of people living in the US, “gay marriage “ will not help).
However, I am also against the passing of prop 8, not because I believe in the struggle for gay marriage but because it is symptomatic of the kinds of homophobia that is the USA. My dream, which I am sure will be shattered, is that this will help us turn away from the useless rhetoric that argues most people are “on our side”. For sure, the majority of people living in the US tolerate us at best, and more often than not, want us dead. These are strong words, but check the morgues, dumpsters, shallow graves or even your own life, to find this proof.
If the passing of prop 8 is but a symptom of a culture that is built through homophobia (and the intersecting of other oppressions) then how do we struggle against harm? This is the question we seem to be ignoring. In other words, if we take as our place of departure the reality that the majority of people are anti-LGBTIQQGNC then what might a politics of opposition look like that does not argue for “peaceful protests”, good old fashioned colonial family vales, neo-liberal “equality”, and blood soaked, red–white-and-blue “rights”?
I am impressed with your article but disagree with some points. Many Californians voted for propostiona 8. They did so not because I believe that they are at their core opposed to gay marriage. Rather they resent the undemocratic way an appointed and pompous ass arrogantly acted against the will of the people. Another factor was the way that gay marriage wasn't at issue so much as the impostion of a gay centered doctrine to be forced on parents, schools and churches. Again I am not against gay marriage at all just rendering an opinion, so before I get flamed please note that I have nothing at all against gay marriage as a stand alone issue. I do however have a great deal against being silenced for expressing my views as is my right and I am utterly delighted that the butt monkey supreme court of California just got the finger from the people.
The other big driver against gay marriage in this election is coming from the rise of the Hispanic culture in America. LGBT's in San Francisco should take note of the high percentage of votes cast FOR proposition 8 in San Francisco itself as a measure of things to come from a new culturally conservative voting block...I would humbly submit to the LGBT community whose equal rights (nothing more than equal) I am a supporter of. Instead of poking sticks in the eyes of anyone who dares to not accept 100% of the most aggressive parts of its agenda rather it work to take a less negative litigeous and negative approach.
Calling anyone who doesn't support open borders and rampant illegal immigration racist is absurd and insulting. As a result of insulting and hard line open borders positions like this people in the US are demanding and getting increased ICE enforcement activity. Also before you think Obama will ram through Shamnesty take a look at local and national elections on the issue of the swarms of illegal aliens in America. No one locally supporting illegal aliens won office. Almost all that did win did so by running against Shamnesty and by promising to round up and deport illegal aliens. If Obama tries to force shamnesty on us now he'll lose any chance he has of a meanignful agenda. To quote the corrupt lunatic Gavin Newsom; "Whether you like it or not..." His arrogance doomed those against proposition 8. As importantly the electorate is sick of being called a biggot everytime they don't agree with someone else's agenda. Like it or not that is the way the world works now and forever. Learn to work with it or frankly become irrelevent.
I support legal immigration and am married myself to a legal immigrant of color and have a mixed child. Having said that I am 100% against illegal immigration and support aggressive immigration enforcement of the rule of law and our immigration laws. Nothing is broken in our immigration system. If we simply enforce our laws the problems will be solved. The Bologna family paid with their lives for the "rights" of illegal alien MS-13 drug dealing thugs to use the streets and neighborhoods of San Francisco as their private shooting galleries. Gavin Newsom has lost any chance of gaining higher office as a result of his corrupt support of drug dealing rapists over American citizens and legal residents. As the failing and corrupt Newsom crowd found out there is only about a 7% support for not turning over felons to ICE. Newscum also found out that he's violating Federal Law and will likely be prosecuted if he keeps doing that. If that happens it will be peopel like me sitting on his Jury and even in SF that puts him at odds with 93% of the Jury pool....see where this is going?
Illegal immigration is nothing like legal immigration. Illegal aliens are free loading, theiving welfare hounds and they drive down wages in the US and quality of life. Only corrupt businesses hire them and even they can only do so because the taxpayer is being forced to subsidize them both. As our economy fails and tax revenues shrink no government can continue to survive long whilst handing out a free lunch to illegal aliens as the voting citizens are ripped off. You can ignore this fact if you like or delete my post but you can't silence me at the ballot box or stop the pressure millions of Americans like me are applying to force change in America. You can however work with people like me who do support elements of your plans but not all of them. Decide what is most important to you and act accordingly.
The other big driver against gay marriage in this election is coming from the rise of the Hispanic culture in America. LGBT's in San Francisco should take note of the high percentage of votes cast FOR proposition 8 in San Francisco itself as a measure of things to come from a new culturally conservative voting block...I would humbly submit to the LGBT community whose equal rights (nothing more than equal) I am a supporter of. Instead of poking sticks in the eyes of anyone who dares to not accept 100% of the most aggressive parts of its agenda rather it work to take a less negative litigeous and negative approach.
Calling anyone who doesn't support open borders and rampant illegal immigration racist is absurd and insulting. As a result of insulting and hard line open borders positions like this people in the US are demanding and getting increased ICE enforcement activity. Also before you think Obama will ram through Shamnesty take a look at local and national elections on the issue of the swarms of illegal aliens in America. No one locally supporting illegal aliens won office. Almost all that did win did so by running against Shamnesty and by promising to round up and deport illegal aliens. If Obama tries to force shamnesty on us now he'll lose any chance he has of a meanignful agenda. To quote the corrupt lunatic Gavin Newsom; "Whether you like it or not..." His arrogance doomed those against proposition 8. As importantly the electorate is sick of being called a biggot everytime they don't agree with someone else's agenda. Like it or not that is the way the world works now and forever. Learn to work with it or frankly become irrelevent.
I support legal immigration and am married myself to a legal immigrant of color and have a mixed child. Having said that I am 100% against illegal immigration and support aggressive immigration enforcement of the rule of law and our immigration laws. Nothing is broken in our immigration system. If we simply enforce our laws the problems will be solved. The Bologna family paid with their lives for the "rights" of illegal alien MS-13 drug dealing thugs to use the streets and neighborhoods of San Francisco as their private shooting galleries. Gavin Newsom has lost any chance of gaining higher office as a result of his corrupt support of drug dealing rapists over American citizens and legal residents. As the failing and corrupt Newsom crowd found out there is only about a 7% support for not turning over felons to ICE. Newscum also found out that he's violating Federal Law and will likely be prosecuted if he keeps doing that. If that happens it will be peopel like me sitting on his Jury and even in SF that puts him at odds with 93% of the Jury pool....see where this is going?
Illegal immigration is nothing like legal immigration. Illegal aliens are free loading, theiving welfare hounds and they drive down wages in the US and quality of life. Only corrupt businesses hire them and even they can only do so because the taxpayer is being forced to subsidize them both. As our economy fails and tax revenues shrink no government can continue to survive long whilst handing out a free lunch to illegal aliens as the voting citizens are ripped off. You can ignore this fact if you like or delete my post but you can't silence me at the ballot box or stop the pressure millions of Americans like me are applying to force change in America. You can however work with people like me who do support elements of your plans but not all of them. Decide what is most important to you and act accordingly.
It's interesting that you ask your readers and the alleged "racist media" not to blame the passage of Prop 8 on minorities turning out en masse in Tuesday’s election and then proceed to couch your entire argument in terms of racial justice that conveniently sidesteps the role minorities played in the passage of the measure.
Unless we are willing to responsibly examine the reasons why so many minorities voted yes on Prop 8, in addition to the many other reasons why it passed, without linking the cause of gay marriage to civil rights in general, then we’re missing an opportunity to understand and make adjustments in our strategy and advocacy for our own quest for rights.
No doubt, whites have been the standard bearers of homophobia and oppression since this country’s inception. The role the Mormon Church played, with its long history of struggle for acceptance and legitimacy, in its rabid sponsorship of Prop 8, is mind boggling. No one will disagree that the LGBT community should view our unique challenges for civil rights in the broader context of equal opportunity that includes the meta-issues of immigration rights, racial justice, and access to healthcare and education for everyone.
The fact is that advocacy groups such as RainbowPUSH, the NAACP, and La Raza have had long standing acrimony within their ranks over gay and lesbian issues. The NAACP took an enormous amount of flak for its opposition to Prop 8. Another fact, quite simply, is that African-Americans and Latinos attend church more frequently and consistently than whites which contributed to higher instances of “yes” votes. There’s an entire debate that needs to happen over the government’s continued support of faith-based organizations via its 501(c)(3) non-profit exemption status who participate in policy and legislative advocacy fights.
Leveling shrill attacks against the media and chastising the gay community for wanting to have a reasonable discussion about why minorities vote in disproportionately higher numbers as a percentage of their population against gay rights, is counterproductive and wrong. As we gain acceptance among the general population we must become exemplars not only within our community but to the community at large. And that means putting continued and sustained effort towards understanding how we are viewed and how we can change negative perceptions about our community. This requires having the courage to ask tough questions.
Unless we are willing to responsibly examine the reasons why so many minorities voted yes on Prop 8, in addition to the many other reasons why it passed, without linking the cause of gay marriage to civil rights in general, then we’re missing an opportunity to understand and make adjustments in our strategy and advocacy for our own quest for rights.
No doubt, whites have been the standard bearers of homophobia and oppression since this country’s inception. The role the Mormon Church played, with its long history of struggle for acceptance and legitimacy, in its rabid sponsorship of Prop 8, is mind boggling. No one will disagree that the LGBT community should view our unique challenges for civil rights in the broader context of equal opportunity that includes the meta-issues of immigration rights, racial justice, and access to healthcare and education for everyone.
The fact is that advocacy groups such as RainbowPUSH, the NAACP, and La Raza have had long standing acrimony within their ranks over gay and lesbian issues. The NAACP took an enormous amount of flak for its opposition to Prop 8. Another fact, quite simply, is that African-Americans and Latinos attend church more frequently and consistently than whites which contributed to higher instances of “yes” votes. There’s an entire debate that needs to happen over the government’s continued support of faith-based organizations via its 501(c)(3) non-profit exemption status who participate in policy and legislative advocacy fights.
Leveling shrill attacks against the media and chastising the gay community for wanting to have a reasonable discussion about why minorities vote in disproportionately higher numbers as a percentage of their population against gay rights, is counterproductive and wrong. As we gain acceptance among the general population we must become exemplars not only within our community but to the community at large. And that means putting continued and sustained effort towards understanding how we are viewed and how we can change negative perceptions about our community. This requires having the courage to ask tough questions.
Thank you for taking the time to write this piece. You have articulated exactly what I, a lesbian immigrant woman of color, have been feeling these past couple of days.
I am astonished to hear some of the irrational, illogical, unintelligent, unsupported assertions being made by my white gay sisters and brothers. And to talk about race and sexuality as if they are mutually exclusive is a privilege I do not have. To actively fight only on the lgbt front is a privilege I do not have. My fight, is a fight for all rights for all people. The facts are that the 'No on 8' campaign was not well-orchestrated -- to put it politely -- and with a 4% margin of loss, a win for the lgbt community -- which includes people of all backgrounds -- was not insurmountable. Let us learn from this loss and fight for victory during the next battle.
No victory for the marginalized ever comes easy. We must fight vigorously for equality for everyone -- not only for your self-identified group. Together.
I am astonished to hear some of the irrational, illogical, unintelligent, unsupported assertions being made by my white gay sisters and brothers. And to talk about race and sexuality as if they are mutually exclusive is a privilege I do not have. To actively fight only on the lgbt front is a privilege I do not have. My fight, is a fight for all rights for all people. The facts are that the 'No on 8' campaign was not well-orchestrated -- to put it politely -- and with a 4% margin of loss, a win for the lgbt community -- which includes people of all backgrounds -- was not insurmountable. Let us learn from this loss and fight for victory during the next battle.
No victory for the marginalized ever comes easy. We must fight vigorously for equality for everyone -- not only for your self-identified group. Together.
In my opinion, it's not necessarily wrong to look at demographic trends in voting. This is exactly what the major parties do in tailoring their campaign.
Instead, I think the reason why this became so offensive so quickly is same concept that is behind 'white' people tending to assume that a black person at their business probably came from a poor background and likes to play basketball, or a person of asian appearance must be a representative from another country, while continuing view other white people as 'individuals' who you would have to meet to know anything about.
This prop 8 vote doesn't mean that african-americans on the sidewalk are any more at fault than the 55% of euro-americans who tend to vote for this stuff. But people with a traditional understanding of 'liberals' were wondering how so many people voted for both Obama and prop 8.
Instead, I think the reason why this became so offensive so quickly is same concept that is behind 'white' people tending to assume that a black person at their business probably came from a poor background and likes to play basketball, or a person of asian appearance must be a representative from another country, while continuing view other white people as 'individuals' who you would have to meet to know anything about.
This prop 8 vote doesn't mean that african-americans on the sidewalk are any more at fault than the 55% of euro-americans who tend to vote for this stuff. But people with a traditional understanding of 'liberals' were wondering how so many people voted for both Obama and prop 8.
thank you!
Here are the facts: Seventy percent of black voters, and a majority of latinos, came out in support of Proposition 8. Accusing your critics of racism and trying to change the topic to racism won't change those facts, and it's irresponsible to do so. Face the truth, don't hide behind comforting illusions.
I find it hypocritical to hear about, mostly heterosexual, people of color crying tears of joy because a black man was elected President and how they suddenly feel liberated, yet 70% voted against strangers' civil rights.
UNAMERICAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
UNAMERICAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks so much for your article.
I voted against prop B because it was a mandate. I would rather elect people I trust and then let them decide how to deal with it. True though, I probably don't care about working families any more than anyone else. And I don't think you should lash yourself with the gentrification whip too much. It's normal and natural for a city and its people to change. What was once a gold rush town has now become a nice little bubble of tolerance and acceptance.
Also true, if there were a constitutional amendment to ban black people from marrying, I doubt you'd see 70% of homos vote against it. And this is a social issue, where your views are highly dependent on your social background.
Also true, if there were a constitutional amendment to ban black people from marrying, I doubt you'd see 70% of homos vote against it. And this is a social issue, where your views are highly dependent on your social background.
"Here are the facts: Seventy percent of black voters, and a majority of latinos, came out in support of Proposition 8. Accusing your critics of racism and trying to change the topic to racism won't change those facts, and it's irresponsible to do so. Face the truth, don't hide behind comforting illusions."
Exactly, thanks Prom. Blacks voting in such large numbers to limit the rights of others is ironic to say the very least.
Exactly, thanks Prom. Blacks voting in such large numbers to limit the rights of others is ironic to say the very least.
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