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Compiled breaking news reports as to whereabouts of olympic torch and its intended route

by via Indybay Newswire

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 12:44PM

Radio reports that run shortened to 3 miles. Not sure what path is. To Justin Herman or further??

Radio reports that run shortened to 3 miles

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§KTVU says run turns around at Sansome

by cp

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 12:48PM

On KTVU they are reporting that a runner said that they will be running in pairs, two by two, and the route will be shortened by half to go up to Sansome and Chestnut (pier 29??) and will not go where a lot of protesters are located to the north.
They are basically saying it will go partway up the Embarcadero where they are most securitized by police, and then return along the same route

§probably true

by cp

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 12:57PM

Yep -0 KTVU said that Dean Karnazes (a famous marathon runner) told them that it's turning around at Sansome and Chestnut (which is slightly north of Market street?) and that they will run in pairs. Three runners have already dropped out now.

On the twitter stream linked in another post, they are saying that a fake torch bus started going down Harrison ? street, and it was surrounded, but this was an empty bus, possibly sent as a fake diversion. The group supposedly is still around it. A different real torch bus was spotted.

Josh Wolf's camera stream is the only one working for me at the Olympictorchsf.com site, but maybe DASW or d7TV will come up soon

§first runner disappears in warehouse

by elle

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 1:27PM

This will probably be clear in a second, but the helicopter shot showed the first runner take off at McCovey cove, with only about 5 surrounding bodyguards. They ran into a large warehouse, but haven't emerged for about 4-5 minutes now. It's not clear what they could be doing, but it probably involves briefing the other runners or security or something.

§Torch getting on police boat

by CNN live

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 1:33PM

CNN is showing the runner getting on a SF police boat, and it seems like they're going somewhere. The SF Chronicle says it's going to either go to another location, or going to Oakland, or something like this

The other torch runners aren't seen. It seems like reports of other torch runners will be important. There are lots of jet skis around the police boat.

§Torch in a boat - contingency for street blockage

by repost

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 1:34PM

Someone watching on TV said the torch went into a boat to get around street blockades.

§On boat now

by watching

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 1:39PM

looks like its on a police boat now. video feed shows what looks like people on a bridge being asked to move by police.

team tibet twitter reports: torch on police boat in mccovey cove. not moving yet.

sfgate reports: p 1:32 p.m.: Change comes amid clashes along the Embarcadero before the relay, prompting speculation the torch may be moved by boat to the Ferry Building.

§Reporter saying it's behind a muni bus now

by reader

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 1:42PM

Someone on tv is saying it's behind a muni bus and not on the bus.

Vehicles are headed South . . . not clear if torch is with them.

§Now it's on a bus?

by .ty

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 1:43PM

Now it is starting to look like the SF Chronicle was wrong, and that the torch was just put on some buses speeding out the back parking lot. There are dozens of other buses that look similar in the area, but these might be parked buses which brought olympics supporters from Los Angeles

§Motorcade departed

by reader

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 1:44PM

"They're fooling the media at this point" . . .

No one knows anything. Reporters are contradicting each other.

§runner disobedience

by bob

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 1:44PM

Oh, CNN has been saying that they had intelligence that four unidentified torch runners might be planning to do pro-Tibet gestures, and that this was freaking out the security.

§Using a boat for torch?

by via e-mail

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 1:44PM

Using a boat for torch?

Reports now that torch on boat or jetski to ride down embarcadero

§pier 48?

by watcher

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 1:51PM

sfgate.com latest headline: Torch Disappears Into Pier 48 Warehouse

§torch in P48 but they are still running decoy bus.....they were just on hide and ellis....

by bob

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 1:54PM

likely confusion not going to happen

§bush and vaness.........

by bob

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 1:56PM

starting on bush

§watching

by watcher

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 1:58PM

twitter reports: 20ft Banner at Embarc and Howard "No Torch in Tibet"

§Torch runners on Van Ness!

by cp

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 1:58PM

KGO is showing torch runners lined up on VanNess. They will be running in pairs, and there are spectators, but nobody with communist flags or protest signs

§torch on bus again?

by watcher

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 1:59PM

sfgate latest headline:

Updated 1:53 p.m.: A convoy of vehicles, including vans and police on motorcycles, pulls out of Pier 48 building.

§Relay going!

by watcher

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:03PM

watching relay runners at Van Ness and Sutter on KGO right now!

§or bush and van ness

by watcher

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:04PM

or "Bush & Van Ness" the commentator said

§torch update from cnn

by seattletom

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:05PM

torch ay van duys(?) and pine

§Torch and runners at Bush and Van Ness!

by watcher

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:06PM

Torch and runners at Bush and Van Ness!

Confirmed via live video on KGO

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/feature?section=news&id=6069106

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/feature?section...

§Torch is moving!

by reader

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:06PM

torch is moving now

Torch is headed down a street, near Bush and Pine . . . protestors mia . . . can only see cops on TV. Runners were stopped, now are going forward again . . .

§heading northbound

by watcher

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:07PM

its sounds like they are heading northbound according to the commentators

§Inland route instead as per sftorch sms

by via e-mail

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:07PM

Inland route instead as per sftorch sms

sftorch: baileysf: it.s at california and van ness

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§Headed down van ness

by reader

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:08PM

Barely walking in terms of the pace, not even a jog . . .

§update

by watcher

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:09PM

KGO commentators mention that it may then turn west on Bay...

§They drove it over . . .

by reader

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:09PM

Updated 2:02 p.m.: Convoy, including vans and police on motorcycles, pulls out of Pier 48 building, heads down 5th Street, then up Ellis Street to Van Ness.

§Torch heading north on Van Ness and Bay. If you can, go to Aquatic Park Nr Gradli Sq to me

by Torch heading north on Van Ness and Bay.

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:16PM

Torch heading north on Van Ness and Bay. If you can, go to Aquatic Park Nr Gradli Sq to meet torch.

Torch heading north on Van Ness and Bay. If you can, go to Aquatic Park Nr Gradli Sq to meet torch.

§Kgo reports torch heading west now

by via e-mail

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:19PM

Kgo reports torch heading west now

sftorch: joshuaw: KGO says torch will go west, under GG bridge then by boat to Justin Herman Plaza

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§Guessing game with only helicopters knowing torches route

by via e-mail

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:19PM

Guessing game with only helicptrs knowin

sftorch: joshuaw: KGO say maybe going to aquatic park then down embarcadero

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§Torch is on Van Ness

by Jim

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:21PM

They took it in a vehicle convoy to around Van Ness and Broadway. Now pairs of runners are taking it down Van Ness heading toward the bay. Each pair is carrying about a block and half or so.

Jim

§Torch on Broadway and Van Ness, heading North

by watcher

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:22PM

watching on KGO live

Torch on Broadway and Van Ness, still heading North

§Torch on Van Ness

by fairiecool

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:24PM

Updated 2:14 p.m.: After mass protests, Olympic flame takes a bus from Pier 48 building to Van Ness. Two runners are now carrying it on the street.

§almost to Bay & Van Ness

by watcher

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:29PM

almost to Bay and Van Ness now

§relocating

by reader

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:29PM

2:26 PM - Guest — There is a huge crowd of people relocating to Broadway in North Beach

§Chopper 5 that his radio chatter is being broadcast on the internet along with his video

by repost

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:31PM

# 2:29 PM - Andrew —

Kindly tell the camera operator on Chopper 5 that his radio chatter is being broadcast on the internet along with his video. Also let him know that belching into the mic is pretty gross.

Thanks!

§will head west on bay

by watcher

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:31PM

once it gets to bay, it will turn west on bay

§Beyond broadway up towards levi's plaza now

by repost

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:32PM

2:30 PM - Guest — Beyond broadway up towards levi's plaza now

§Confrontations begin for torch near Van Ness & Bay

by watcher

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:35PM

watching KGO and some protesters beginning to try to get to torch, confrontations

watching KGO and some protesters beginning to try to get to torch, confrontations

§torch police state

by sickening

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:36PM

as cops defend another police state

§torch police state close-up pic

by via corp media

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:37PM

while cops may try to play this as a victory, with their armored divisions protecting torch runners, it's really a victory for protesters that they had to play hide and seek with torch

§Now headind west on bay

by watcher

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:39PM

just turned west on BAY

§Pro-china only at justin herman

by via e-mail

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:47PM

Pro-china only at justin herman

sftorch: Listenupgirl: Ktvu reports the only people allowed into justin herman plaza handpicked by

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§Route

by repost

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:51PM

CNN says the route will be: west on bay street under the bridge and then on a shuttle to the final destination

§Now headind west on marina

by watcher

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:52PM

heading west toward golden gate

§It will arrive at Justin Herman in a shuttle

by repost

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:53PM

CNN says: The final destination will still be Justin Herman Plaza, but it will enter in a shuttle, not on foot.

§yellow vehicle is amphibious

by me

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 3:10PM

CNN Reports: The yellow vehicle "duck boat" driving in front of the torch is an amphibious vehicle. They speculated that perhaps at some point that could enter the water and be used to shuttle the torch to the Justin Herman Plaza. Again, that is speculation. However the yellow vehicle in front is definitively amphibious.

§Justin Herman Plaza Ceremony Canceled

by watcher

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 3:17PM

as reported by KGO

KGO reports that the AP has said the closing ceremonies WON'T be happening at Justin Herman Plaza. They will be held at "a undisclosed location".

§just in the closing ceremonies at JHP are cancelled.

by repost

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 3:17PM

just in the closing ceremonies at JHP are cancelled.

§AP Report: closing ceremony at Justin Hermon Plaza is cancelled

by me

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 3:19PM

AP reports: closing ceremony at Justin Hermon Plaza is cancelled! , it will change to undisclosed location

§Now they're saying it's headed to the GGB, and there won't be a cermony.

by repost

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 3:19PM

Now they're saying it's headed to the GGB, and there won't be a cermony.

§AP reports: closing ceremony at Justin Hermon Plaza is cancelled

by me

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 3:20PM

AP reports: closing ceremony at Justin Hermon Plaza is cancelled. The ceremony will still take place, but at an undisclosed location
source: CNN online

§update on chron -- it's headed for GGB

by reader

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 3:21PM

Also on SFChron -- Updated 3:11 p.m.: Surprise route change thwarts protesters after tense confrontations between China and Tibet supporters in the morning. Supervisor Peskin slams mayor's "deceit" in the bait-and-switch.

§Doyle Drive toward the Golden Gate Bridge

by repost

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 3:22PM

The convoy is now headed up Doyle Drive toward the Golden Gate Bridge, a route city officials originally said they had discounted because it was too high profile.

§Doyle Drive toward the Golden Gate Bridge

by repost

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 3:22PM

Doyle Drive toward the Golden Gate Bridge

§torch is currently not moving.

by me

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 3:26PM

torch is currently not moving.
Yellow duck boat has separated from torch group, and the blue security crew from china

§cops are taking a rest with the torch

by me

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 3:29PM

cops and blue security crwe are taking a rest and not moving, yellow duck boat has stopped about 20 meters ahead of the group.

§The ceremony is "private"!

by reader

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 3:42PM

Since the ceremony will happen at an "undisclosed location", what kind of ceremony is it? Who is it for? The media? The cops? They'll stick their cameras in there but no non-media and non-cops are allowed?

Ridiculous.

§Apparently headed to the airport..

by repost

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 3:52PM

Apparently headed to the airport.. according to a post on a blog

§Torch motorcade has arrived at the airport

by me

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 4:19PM

And KGO just showed the torch motorcade has arrived at the airport. It's on its way out.

§SFtorch at Twitter

by fyi

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 4:59PM

Not sure how long this record of twitter updates will remain available, but you can get a scattered history of the day at http://twitter.com/sftorch. They did SMS alerts all day long. Some useful. Some not so useful.

Original "sftorch" announcement was made at http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/04/08/18491190.php.

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§torch bus

by link

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 1:02PM

This shows Chris Daly and others helping stop the decoy torch bus.

http://www.calitics.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=93F85C588A426A8CE336EEA1C39EA71A?diaryId=5574

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§Those picture images are broken, but here's one

by repost

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 1:29PM

Chris Daly is hero to be out there in action.

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§Yes, Matier and Ross reported that was the plan if the streets were blocked

by reader

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 1:36PM

PATHETIC!!!!!!!!

For more information: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...

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§V formation of motorcycles around the 2 runners

by reader

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:03PM

V formation of motorcycles around the 2 runners . . . TV is just zoomed in on the runners so they can't see the protestors, can only hear them.

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§MSM Bias - close up views, no context, making up things

by repost

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:12PM

They say it's moving when it's completely stopped and provide no context at all, just close-ups. No way to tell what's going on around it, if anyone is watching or protesting . ..

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§now at Clay

by watcher

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:12PM

just saw on live feed that torch at Clay now

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§Militaristic image

by reader

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:16PM

The V formation, the aquatic tank, the defenses . . . the whole thing has a militaristic look, completely defensive.

That is the win right there.

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§CBS5 blog posts

by reader

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 2:28PM

Apr 9, 2008 2:21 PM
Torchless at the Embarcadero
Posted by brittneygilbert

I am surrounded by disappointed people. Long faces abound. Protesters are complaining about wanting to march against *the torch*, and they didn't get to see it. Kids are craning their necks still looking for it. People are sad by the hundreds, maybe thousands. The crowds are thinning even more.

"It ain't coming here." --Guy behind me who folded up his chair and left

For more information: http://cbslocalblogs.prospero.com/n/blogs/...

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§It would be a wonderful thing if they can get through this without violence.

by Berkeley Sprout

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 3:02PM

Its amazing to watch this on the television. Certainly puts Berkeley's police overtime issues to shame...but its worth it if they can do their duty to the World Community by getting the torch through SF without violence.

The NBC 11 person just said the people waiting at Marina Green have told her they really don't care that the torch isn't physicallly coming there -- they have a large presence of people supporting their side of the issue, and everyone feels supported and good about being there.

I would say to BrittanyGilbert above that I'm sorry she's disappointed, but its really not about her. Or protesters in San Francisco. Its about the Olympics.

Why China -- well, the Nazi's had the Olympics, with the intention of proving Aryans to be a master race. Jesse Owens did more for the cause of liberty that year than any other individual. I'd love to see a similar thing happen this year. No boycott --- lets beat 'em fair and square.

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§Boycotts and protests are just as meaningful

by reader

Wed, Apr 9, 2008 4:13PM

"Its about the Olympics."

Sorry but you don't own the world. People can interperet it to be about anything they like, regardless of your opinion. Making the comparison to the Nazis is no different than Bush comparing WWII with bombing Iran. The world is different now and everything changes. Doing the same thing over and over isn't the only way to do things.

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§Resist the 2010 Olympics: Vancouver, BC

by http://no2010.com/

Thu, Apr 10, 2008 12:12AM

The Winter Olympics are coming to Vancouver, BC in February 2010. The 2010 Olympics are no less a symbol of capitalist power, ecological destruction and genocide than the Beijing Olympics this year. Riot 2010!
http://no2010.com/

Ten reasons to resist the 2010 Olympics:
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2008/03/373988.shtml

No Olympics on Stolen Land (article):
http://www.earthfirstjournal.org/article.php?id=311

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