Action Alert!!!!TIBET WILL BE FREE!!!

We now have the whole truth about the US oil war against China and its province of 800 years, Tibet, no different from the US oil war against Iraq and Afghanistan, both perpetrated in the name of human rights. Here it is:
"The Tibet Card" by Soraya Sepahpour-Ulrich, 3/27/08 at
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8462
and
Alexander’s Gas and Oil Connections, 11/11/04, “Qiangtang Basin in Tibet estimated to Hold Oil and Gas Reserves
http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/news/nts44532.htm
And the rest of your reading list is at:
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/04/07/18490999.php

Bring fire extinguishers and super soakers. China or Washington Let's extinguish the flame of fascism everywhere.

From Human Rights Watch:

China’s need for oil reserves for its growing domestic economy has caused its government to pursue investments in many countries of marginal stability and democracy, but its greatest oil success abroad has been in Sudan.

Although the China National Petroleum Company (CNPC) had escaped the public relations hammering that Talisman was receiving, it was drawn into the controversy through the efforts of Sudan activists to bar the use of U.S. financial markets to raise money for anyone doing oil business in Sudan in late 1999.

China’s first foray into the world of high finance—to open up its enormous government-owned corporations to foreign investment—was a controversial offer to sell stock in CNPC to the public on the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE). Its offer, designed to raise a record U.S. $ 10 billion, had to be withdrawn and refashioned because of the negative publicity suggesting that the proceeds would be used to commit further human rights abuses in Sudan, Tibet, and elsewhere. Ultimately, the 90 percent-CNPC-owned subsidiary PetroChina, with a “firewall” to prevent any of the new capital from going to the Sudanese operations, proceeded with a stock offer to raise U.S. $ 10 billion. A broad-based coalition opposed to the PetroChina IPO ultimately succeeded in reducing the proceeds from the IPO by some 70% to only U.S. $ 2.89 billion. This reduced amount was raised with major participation from British Petroleum and a few other large companies. Questions about China’s financing of arms sales to Sudan and allegations of Chinese prison labor used in the construction of Sudan’s oil pipeline were never addressed.

I have no doubt that the Chinese govt. is being very heavy handed and brutal In Tibet. I also know that prior to the intervention by the Peoples LIberation Army in 1959 Tibet was a very brutal feudalistic society, where except for priests most men were serfs and women were essentially slaves .
Anyone , Tibetan or Western that wants a return to those very bad Old days is advocating a reactionary'' solution 'to the current discrimination against native Tibetans .If there was a rally called that condemmed both the Dali Lama and the Chinese Govt. i would particpate .
But i won't be part of any demo that calls for , in the name of self determination, a return to theoracy .

Lets give the torch a San Francisco Style welcome! Better than Paris!!!!

Organizers canceled the final leg of the Olympic run through Paris after chaotic protests Monday, snuffing out the torch and putting it aboard a bus in a humiliating concession to protesters decrying China's human rights record.

Worried officials extinguished the torch and placed it on the bus five times throughout the day as protesters tried to grab the torch and block the relay. At least two activists got almost an arm's length away before they were seized by police.

Another protester threw water at the torch but failed to put it out before being taken away.

The 17.4-mile route started at the Eiffel Tower, headed down the Champs-Elysees toward City Hall, then crossed the Seine before ending at the Charlety track and field stadium.

The chaos started at the Eiffel Tower moments after the relay began. Green Party activist Sylvain Garel lunged for the first torchbearer, former hurdler Stephane Diagana, and shouted "Freedom for the Chinese!" before security officials pulled him back.

The torch moved on but was soon put out by security officers and placed aboard the bus after a crowd of activists waving Tibetan flags confronted the torchbearer on a road along the Seine.

The torch went back on the bus less than an hour later after the procession was halted by activists who booed and chanted "Tibet!"

Security officials appeared to interrupt the procession for the third time simply because they had spotted demonstrators ahead. Protesters threw plastic bottles, cups and pieces of bread at the bus, and at a male athlete in a wheelchair.

The torch went back inside the bus a fourth time shortly after a protester approached it with a fire extinguisher near the Louvre. Officers grabbed the demonstrator before he could start to spray. Police said later that at least 28 people had been taken into custody.

The flame was whisked into a bus for the last time outside the National Assembly, where protesters gathered and a banner on the building read: "Respect for Human Rights in China."

Other demonstrators scaled the Eiffel Tower and Notre Dame cathedral and hung banners depicting the Olympic rings as handcuffs.

"The flame shouldn't have come to Paris," said protester Carmen de Santiago, who had "free" painted on one cheek and "Tibet" on the other.

Police had drawn up an elaborate plan to keep the torch in a safe "bubble," hoping to prevent the chaos that marred the relay Sunday in London, where police repeatedly scuffled with activists angry about China's human rights record.

One protester tried to grab the torch; another tried to put out the flame with what appeared to be a fire extinguisher. Thirty-seven people were arrested.

In Paris, about 3,000 officers were deployed on motorcycles, in jogging gear and with inline roller skates. Torchbearers were encircled by several hundred officers. Boats patrolled the Seine River, which slices through the French capital, and a helicopter flew overhead.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy has left open the possibility of boycotting the Olympic opening ceremony in Beijing depending on how the situation evolves in Tibet. Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said Monday that was still the case.

Activists have been protesting along the torch route since the flame embarked on its 85,000-mile journey from Ancient Olympia in Greece to the Aug. 8-24 Beijing Olympics.

"But i won't be part of any demo that calls for , in the name of self determination, a return to theoracy ."


Hypocritical- its about self determination, not judging what they've decided, through an American lens.
Do you support the Palestininas choice of theocratic , fundamentalist Hamas?
Once again, its for the Palestinians to decide, not for the Americans.

Should progressives in the 19th century supported the C.S.A. ? The Confederate States of America . After all they had a ''proud culture and traditions '', a (mostly ) common religion , Protesants , except for the Catholic stronghold in Louisiana and a few mostly prosperous Jews who were mostly loyal to the the Confederacy , a flag , a military, a different language dialect etc.
Just wondering .

FIRE EXTINGUISHERS!! Hundreds of Fire extinguishers!
I will be at Ferry Park at 10am with 100 fire extinguishers which I will be GIVING AWAY.

extinguish the Fires of Chinese Facism (and of Dianne Feinstein's Nazi Support of China)

((you might want to save some of your extinguisher to stamp out the flames of American Facism which burn brightly and need a good extinguishing at the same time!)

Don't take your fire extinguishers from places that might actually need them in case of fire- personally, I'm all for street theater, and its brilliant symbolism, but we don't want anyone to get hurt for lack of a fire extinguisher down the road....

RE: FIRE EXTINGUSHERS!!

THESE ARE USED SURPLUS FIRE EXTINGUISHERS WHICH CANNOT FOR LACK OF CERT BE PLACED IN PUBLIC AREAS.

The Right tool for the Right Job!!!

I can't believe that the planners had the wisdom to pick London, Paris, then San Francisco. They would not have nearly the same density, or large chinese/tibetan population to potentially deal with if they had picked Atlanta or Dallas. Also, the route is right through the North Beach/Financial area of downtown? Holy moly - it is pretty easy to slow things down there just due to traffic driving to an event, or a few extra bicycles or demonstrators at bottleneck intersections. If they had picked somewhere like ocean beach or the presidio, it would be so much easier for police to defend against crowds.

We've got 3 people placing banners on the Golden Gate bridge, 150 feet in the air Just beautiful.

As the only city they've trusted to have the torch in the US, it's up to you to do us proud. London was good. Paris was better. Go get it guys.

"' Just Wondering '' made a good sardonic point. If ''self determination ' trumps everything , why didn't progressives and Radicals of the mid -19 th century support the Confederacy ? Of course they didn't . European Democratic revolutionaries strongly backed the Union and followed the war as closely as they could decades before radio, tv and this medium .
Some who had immigrated to the US enlisted and became Union officers. Karl Marx wrote about the war and stated that he fervently wished for the defeat of the slaveowning Southern aristocrats .
Few were blind to the great flaws of the North . Early Socialists agitated against 'wage slavery '' of Northern capitalism and while denouncing the 1863 Irish race riots also denouced the gross class bias of the draft .
And for obvious reasons African-Americans saw it as a war of liberation。

And for obvious reasons African-Americans saw it as a war of liberation。

Not all- there are stories of freed African Americans fighting for the confederacy.

Go know.

Progressives supported a fight against slavery. It is true that all the leadership of the Union side were far more motivated to save the large country. I support nations based on ethnic nationalities to control the land region they're in, so basically, to define states based on popular will. In the case of the U.S., the land was in the process of being conquered from the indian tribes, so it was sort of a mute point to draw a line and say "this area was conquered fair and square. Now the rules are new, and we want self determination". However, if we were to ignore that background, the principal that the confederacy should have been able to break off, is valid. The only way to determine that a population democratically supports creating new borders is to have a free majority rule election, so they should have allowed slaves to vote.

Palestine is fighting U.S. Imperialism. U.S. Imperialism is fighting for a "Free Tibet." Those of you protesting the torch I want to know, how does it feel to be working with The National Endowment for Democracy? Look at all the "democracy" they have brought to Yugoslavia, Haiti and tried to bring that same "democracy" to Venezuela and Cuba.
Interesting that real anti-war activists can't even paste up a poster in the mission without a fine and cop hassle but you "Free Tibet" people get to climb the GG Bridge and hang banners. I will say this, your Free Tibet operation looks very well financed.
Always take the side against U.S. Imperialism.

Hit the streets with the staff and members of CREDO Mobile to protest the Chinese government's actions as the Olympic torch passes by.

Wednesday, April 9, 12 NOON
Ferry Park (just North of Justin Herman Plaza)

Sign Pickup: Noon -- 1:00 p.m.
Torch Protest: 1:00 -- 2:30 p.m.

We're planning to meet and pass out signs starting at 12 noon in Ferry Park, near where Washington Street meets the Embarcadero (just north of Justin Herman plaza). We'll do our best to let everyone know of any changes by e-mail, but please include your mobile phone number when you reserve a sign at the links above so that we can text-message you with updates if needed. Click the link below to reserve your free sign or to volunteer at the event.
http://volunteerforchange.org/e/1210?refcode=o5

It's a good bet that none of these so-called "protesters" (i.e. agents provocateur) will ever make a court appearance after they disrupt the torch relay in S.F. They'll be issued a phony citation and that will be it.

Same thing happened in London and Paris over the weekend. This is
all being orchestrated out of Washington and Langley. Destabilization
campaign directed at PRC.

That's where your tax dollars go. It's called U.S. Imperialism.

Red paint poured along the relay route will become bloody footprints after the torch relay passes over it. So let's bring a bunch of red paint.

As you can see from my earlier post i'm more than a bit skeptical of the political agenda of the "' Free Tibet '' movement. That being said there's no need to slander those who displayed the banners over the GG Bridge as CIA controlled agents ! Where's the evidence to support that ?
It's simply not true they're being just cited out . There facing the insane but sinister charge of Felony Conspiracy to Commit Misdemenors !
Drop the charges ! But No (as someone earlier wrote ) to both Stalinism and Theocracy !

Yeah, Tibet will indeed be free-- free for Bechtel, Haliburton, KBR, Blackwater, Chevron, CNN, and the secret torture and death squads the USA will train as "anticommunist counterinsurgents" just as soon as it can get its blood-drenched talons into the country.

The record speaks for itself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinochet#Abstract
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mossadeq#Operation_Ajax
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Grenada

Oh, and let's not forget obvious US-led anticommunist 'human rights' campaigns, like
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_war
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_war#Escalation_and_Americanization.2C_1960.E2.80.931963

Indeed-- what ARE you advocating for Tibet?

I thought that bridge (and others) was supposed to be under code orange (ore whatever) security since it is a 'prime target' for an 'al-quaeda terror cell.' So how did a coupla hippies get up it with no intervention?

Are we sitting ducks because the feds aren't watching the infrastructure? Or are the feds collusive in the 'free Tibet' 'movement' in the USA?

We were able to bring the climbing equipment onto the bridge in baby carriages.
Homeland security on the bridge has shot to kill orders if they feel the bridge security is compromised- we knew that and immediately communicated our plan to bridge security- the several minutes delay in response time was enough to get beyond reach and to guarentee the safety of the climbers

Now we need the Indybay community's help- this act is considered a felony- we need to raise money to for bail for our friends still imprisoned

https://secure.ga4.org/01/support_SFT

Quote:

As a specific policy with regard to China, [the "Open Door Policy"] was first advanced by the United States in the Open Door Notes of September-November 1899. In 1898, the United States had become an East Asian power through the acquisition of the Philippine Islands, and when the partition of China by the European powers and Japan seemed imminent, the United States felt its commercial interests in China threatened. U.S. Secretary of State John Hay sent notes to the major powers (France, Germany, the United Kingdom, Italy, Japan, and Russia), asking them to declare formally that they would uphold Chinese territorial and administrative integrity and would not interfere with the free use of the treaty ports within their spheres of influence in China.

[...]

In 1902, the United States government protested that Russian encroachment in Manchuria after the Boxer Rebellion was a violation of the Open Door Policy. When Japan replaced Russia in southern Manchuria after the Russo-Japanese War (1904-1905) the Japanese and U.S. governments pledged to maintain a policy of equality in Manchuria. In finance, American efforts to preserve the Open Door Policy led (1909) to the formation of an international banking consortium through which all Chinese railroad loans would agree (1917) to another exchange of notes between the United States and Japan in which there were renewed assurances that the Open Door Policy would be respected, but that the United States would recognize Japan's special interests in China (the Lansing-Ishii Agreement). The Open Door Policy had been further weakened by a series of secret treaties (1917) between Japan and the Allies, which promised Japan the German possessions in China on successful conclusion of the war.

[...]

The Open Door Policy has been an important policy that has led to an increase of trade, economic co-operation and interdependence between countries. The theory of the Open Door Policy is a cornerstone of the idea that trade is a natural right and although sovereign countries can counter such policies with isolationist attitudes, that would be legitimate the act would be unnatural for trade and communication with others is a natural right as cited in John Locke's famous treatises.

End quote.

So what's next, banner drops for free trade?

Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_door_policy