4/9 Tibetan Freedom Torch

Maybe someone should read that torture memo aloud, through a bullhorn, at the anti-host-country demonstration at the Olympic torch ceremony.

You know, show the Chinese how these things are done in the 'civilized' world.

Yep- we should also tell the Chinese how the Israelis ethnically cleanse the Palestinians- resulting in a population that has quadrupled under occupation- the incompetent Chinese have it all wrong- they actually KILLED 1.2 million Tibetans under their occupation

Why Care About Tibet?
Sunday April 06
4:00 PM - 5:30 PM
Location Details:
Berkeley Unitarian Church- Cedar and Bonita

Talk by Topden Tsering: "Why care about Tibet? "
Berkeley Unitarian Church at the corner of Cedar Street and Bonita Street, Berkeley.

Or do only some people's deaths count?

Why dontcha start by stopping your own government's massive and systematic human rights abuses in Iraq?

Because I'm Tibetan.
My country has been occupied and my people oppressed and slaughtered for 60 years.
And te world has been silent

Um... yeah.

I'll bet you were a Berliner too, eh?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_am_a_Berliner

And, did you stand with Ronald Reagan against it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tear_down_this_wall

Funny how silent those same Crusaders are now, though, eh?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_West_Bank_Barrier

Let's bring fire extinguishers and super soakers. And just put the flame of fascism out.

...is to read the John Yoo torture memos aloud over your bullhorns.

You know, show those dastardly Chinese how things are 'really' done, in the 'civilized' world, which is to say, in 'your' country, 'right or wrong.'

Its the guy who gave the talk. I 'd guess its a good bet he is Tibetan

is there's no telling on an anonymous internet site who is saying what.

That means ideas must stand or fall on their merit, rather the the force of the presentational personality.

"Let's bring fire extinguishers and super soakers. And just put the flame of fascism out."

It worked in Paris!!!!!!! Great non-violent resistence idea. Lets line the route with super soakers

The really important thing is not to let China get a cozy photo op with which to lie to its own people. Our leaders know its wrong, and its great to show them that were angry with their tacitly granting their acceptance, but the crimes are being committed against Tibetans and against the Chinese themselves.

So ideally disrupt the visuals so that no photos get back to China that aren't in some way affected:

Water balloons with red-coolaid - get the chinese security people covered in it. Super soakers good idea also with cool aid if you can get close enough.

Try to mix in with the pro-chinese groups but be calm. then when you get marshalled with them into photo position unfurl banners/photos etc.... Ideally IN CHINESE

Water-soluble red paint across blatant landmarks that might be used as backdops?

The pro-China protestors will provoke you. if you give in, that will give their state propaganda writers an easy angle so do not take the bait.

Ignoring that history doesn't make the Chinese just forget it, ya know...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_door_policy

Last time the US boycotted the Olympics, btw, it was to protest the invasion of Afghanistan:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Summer_Olympics_boycott

Also, there is a larger context in which your actions operate to support Bush Administration goals. That may be worth thinking about:
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/04/08/18491195.php

The freedom to stone ethnic minorities to death?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/15/tibet.china2

The freedom for teenagers to beg monks for their lives?
http://www.economist.com/daily/news/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10870258&top_story=1

The freedom to set mosques ablaze?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080315/ts_afp/chinatibetreligionprotestrights_080315011805

So whose freedom are you demanding in Tibet?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/18/wtibet718.xml

Freedom to do what?
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23401794-25837,00.html


These are called sources. They cite what is called evidence. A lot of the evidence in these sources is from eyewitnesses, and from their nature as tourists we might gather they are 1. neutral, in that they don't live there, and 2. friendly to the culture they chose to go visit.

Will the "free Tibet" crowd continue to ignore the lynching upon which their movement is currently, in part, based?