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Offended by fellow peaceniks?
.........
Offended by the nudes4peace?
How about our fellow protestors who support
sexism, censorship, homophobia, genocide, fascism, etc.?
......
Offended by the nudes4peace?
How about our fellow protestors who support
sexism, censorship, homophobia, genocide, fascism, etc.?
......
To my fellow progressives, greens, queers, and libertarians,
ANSWER complains that certain communities
( at the Civic Center anti-war rally)
will be offended by
nudists demonstrating for peace.
Such communities include
certain religious sects,
such as traditionalist Christians and Muslims,
who might also be offended by open queerness
("celebrating sin", instead of asking Allah for forgiveness).
Will ANSWER protect their delicate sensibilities
by asking queers
to leave those rainbow flags at home?
In the interests of bland censored "unity"?
Many progressives are offended by
the overt sexism and homophobia
of the Vatican.
So are Roman Catholic groups
still welcome?
Since BEFORE the U.S. invasion of Iraq,
I've walked (often nude) in San Francisco peace marches
alongside many protesters whose policies
offend my values deeply.
These included political sects which supported
the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan;
and many who deliberately ignore genocide in Darfur and in Tibet.
Plus religious sects which applaud "honor killings" of women and queers.
Should I boycott these demonstrations,
because I disapprove of certain participants,
and even certain mis-leaders?
How can this green libertarian queer
march placidly with
Stalinists, homophobes, and fascists?
By ignoring them.
--- Tortuga Bi LIBERTY
.....
[ Yes, I WILL be
near the equestrian statue,
as previously announced,
at 4:30pm on Wednesday.
I don't yet know
what will happen after 5pm. ]
....
ANSWER complains that certain communities
( at the Civic Center anti-war rally)
will be offended by
nudists demonstrating for peace.
Such communities include
certain religious sects,
such as traditionalist Christians and Muslims,
who might also be offended by open queerness
("celebrating sin", instead of asking Allah for forgiveness).
Will ANSWER protect their delicate sensibilities
by asking queers
to leave those rainbow flags at home?
In the interests of bland censored "unity"?
Many progressives are offended by
the overt sexism and homophobia
of the Vatican.
So are Roman Catholic groups
still welcome?
Since BEFORE the U.S. invasion of Iraq,
I've walked (often nude) in San Francisco peace marches
alongside many protesters whose policies
offend my values deeply.
These included political sects which supported
the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan;
and many who deliberately ignore genocide in Darfur and in Tibet.
Plus religious sects which applaud "honor killings" of women and queers.
Should I boycott these demonstrations,
because I disapprove of certain participants,
and even certain mis-leaders?
How can this green libertarian queer
march placidly with
Stalinists, homophobes, and fascists?
By ignoring them.
--- Tortuga Bi LIBERTY
.....
[ Yes, I WILL be
near the equestrian statue,
as previously announced,
at 4:30pm on Wednesday.
I don't yet know
what will happen after 5pm. ]
....
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then they should stop being a front for the Workers World Party.
When you priorities are "not offending" people rather than ending the war, something is very, very wrong.
And, truth be told, your nude protest is meaningless as well. Children are being raped by your American heroes each and every day in Iraq. You should be getting guns and DEFENDING those children, not dancing naked in the street or marching in little circles with people who tell you that "God" is against DEFENDING CHILDREN.
What is offensive? Your nonviolent inaction in the face of the rape and murder of millions of completely innocent people. THAT's what's offensive, got it?
When you priorities are "not offending" people rather than ending the war, something is very, very wrong.
And, truth be told, your nude protest is meaningless as well. Children are being raped by your American heroes each and every day in Iraq. You should be getting guns and DEFENDING those children, not dancing naked in the street or marching in little circles with people who tell you that "God" is against DEFENDING CHILDREN.
What is offensive? Your nonviolent inaction in the face of the rape and murder of millions of completely innocent people. THAT's what's offensive, got it?
I'll take the Stalinists.
How come the nudists are allowed to express their values, but not the reds?
This is outrageous and unacceptable.
I would like to know who in ANSWER
said that nudists for peace would offend others [...]
The right wing neo-cons are using this as yet another excuse to bash the anti-war movement.
I found this at http://www.bluetruth.net
Wrong, ANSWER--again
The folks over at International ANSWER appear to have gone off their medication again. You remember them-- the "anti-war" group that cheers Hamas and Hezbollah rocket attacks against Israel; the self-proclaimed commissars of rallies against the US war in Iraq that have managed to shrivel the public turnout at their events down to a few thousand at a time. Basically now irrelevant except to the hard core cadres who show up because of ANSWER's other agendas--Israel-bashing, China-excusing, Darfur-denying and so on. They have now gone as far as to admit that they have accepted dhimmi status with regard to their radical Moslem constituency. Having been instructed by their Moslem groups that they would be offended by public nudity, ANSWER begged the "nudes for peace" contingent not to show up at their recent rally. Of course, ANSWER doesn't view as offensive the "Palestine is our land and the Jews are our dogs" chants or the sonorous voice of Hatem Bazian chanting "intifada, intifada" like some kind of crazed jihadist mantra (wait, that actually IS a crazed jihadist mantra!), or the signs at its rallies displaying naked anti-Semitism. They ignore the fact that the Islamists whose boots they lick are homophobes who excuse "honor killings" and the genocide in Darfur.
We also were able to find out that at least one group allied with ANSWER places its racial/ethnic agenda even ahead of its core political position--opposition to the war in Iraq. Witness these e-mails received by Direct Action to Stop The War about last week's anti-war actions in San Francisco which were aimed not only at US Government offices but also those businesses who were deemed complicit in the war effort:
"Hey all,I just got a call from S---- S---, the owner of the Sprint store at --------, which is on our direct action menu. He told me that that store is an authorized Sprint dealership that's owned by him - it is*not* owned by Sprint. He said that he strongly opposes the war and strongly supports what we're doing, and hopes that we won't target his business.Please make whatever decision you see fit based on this information.(Personally, I think we should let the poor guy off the hook.)Thanks,Adrian"
"I just got an e-mail forwarded to me from someone re: the sprint storeowned by S---- S---- he is a Palestinian who's grandfather passed away 3 days ago, so PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE drop this off your target list. I understand the need to target war profiteers, but i wish more research had been done on the targets. some people are just trying to feed their families, and have almost no choice but to partner with companies such as Sprint. thank you, M----- S---- (S----- is my cousin)"
How did we get these e-mails? Maybe somebody on the inside took offense at not holding Palestinians to the same moral standards? Maybe this person felt that just because you're Palestinian or other "oppressed" Moslem that you can be held accountable for the choices you make, same as everyone else? Naaahhhhhh..... Palestinians are excused for celebrating the cold-blooded murder of yeshiva students so why should a little war profiteering be an issue between friends?
What's next-- is ANSWER going to insist that all women wear burkas to its next rally?
I found this at http://www.bluetruth.net
Wrong, ANSWER--again
The folks over at International ANSWER appear to have gone off their medication again. You remember them-- the "anti-war" group that cheers Hamas and Hezbollah rocket attacks against Israel; the self-proclaimed commissars of rallies against the US war in Iraq that have managed to shrivel the public turnout at their events down to a few thousand at a time. Basically now irrelevant except to the hard core cadres who show up because of ANSWER's other agendas--Israel-bashing, China-excusing, Darfur-denying and so on. They have now gone as far as to admit that they have accepted dhimmi status with regard to their radical Moslem constituency. Having been instructed by their Moslem groups that they would be offended by public nudity, ANSWER begged the "nudes for peace" contingent not to show up at their recent rally. Of course, ANSWER doesn't view as offensive the "Palestine is our land and the Jews are our dogs" chants or the sonorous voice of Hatem Bazian chanting "intifada, intifada" like some kind of crazed jihadist mantra (wait, that actually IS a crazed jihadist mantra!), or the signs at its rallies displaying naked anti-Semitism. They ignore the fact that the Islamists whose boots they lick are homophobes who excuse "honor killings" and the genocide in Darfur.
We also were able to find out that at least one group allied with ANSWER places its racial/ethnic agenda even ahead of its core political position--opposition to the war in Iraq. Witness these e-mails received by Direct Action to Stop The War about last week's anti-war actions in San Francisco which were aimed not only at US Government offices but also those businesses who were deemed complicit in the war effort:
"Hey all,I just got a call from S---- S---, the owner of the Sprint store at --------, which is on our direct action menu. He told me that that store is an authorized Sprint dealership that's owned by him - it is*not* owned by Sprint. He said that he strongly opposes the war and strongly supports what we're doing, and hopes that we won't target his business.Please make whatever decision you see fit based on this information.(Personally, I think we should let the poor guy off the hook.)Thanks,Adrian"
"I just got an e-mail forwarded to me from someone re: the sprint storeowned by S---- S---- he is a Palestinian who's grandfather passed away 3 days ago, so PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE drop this off your target list. I understand the need to target war profiteers, but i wish more research had been done on the targets. some people are just trying to feed their families, and have almost no choice but to partner with companies such as Sprint. thank you, M----- S---- (S----- is my cousin)"
How did we get these e-mails? Maybe somebody on the inside took offense at not holding Palestinians to the same moral standards? Maybe this person felt that just because you're Palestinian or other "oppressed" Moslem that you can be held accountable for the choices you make, same as everyone else? Naaahhhhhh..... Palestinians are excused for celebrating the cold-blooded murder of yeshiva students so why should a little war profiteering be an issue between friends?
What's next-- is ANSWER going to insist that all women wear burkas to its next rally?
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