UCPD send five Oak Grove supporters to jail for Thanksgiving

Maybe the struggle to preseve green spaces should take place where green spaces need to be preserved, as opposed to near the stadium where more trees will be added overall and where the north parking lot will be removed, not to mention where most of the local community is actually in favor of the new building.

Why continue to oppose this project when the campus community is in favor of it? It's a bit like the US imposing its will on Irak.

do you always lurk on indybay posting your criticism's of the movement? green spaces need to be defended everywhere, in Berkeley, in other places, all over the world. We are acting in the time and place we are now, with what we have; if you want to fund my trip to a crisis area of your choice, pay for for supplies and food, please do.

It seems to me all you can do it surf on indybay and post contrary to whatever article is being reported. why don't you get off your ass and do something? if you spend three minutes in the trees at the grove, you'd see why they'd have to be preserved. I'm tired of wasting energy on explaining the issues to people who have nothing better to do than be cynical about a noble cause, worthy of honor and respect.

I'm not criticizing "the movement", I am criticizing the obstruction of the construction of a needed building and the distortion of its actual environmental impact by outsiders who do not live there or use the area for PR/political reasons.

"if you want to fund my trip to a crisis area of your choice, pay for for supplies and food, please do."

Well 10,000 trees are scheduled to be cut just on the other side of the hills. But there are no cameras or NYT articles about that, so I don't think you will actually do anything about it...


"if you spend three minutes in the trees at the grove, you'd see why they'd have to be preserved."

I have actually LIVED several years a hundred yards down the street on campus. You've just spent a few hours there, and know nothing of the campus and its environment.

I have actually also volunteered in the past to help preserve the trees on campus, so please don't condescend. I invite those of you who really care about the trees of the Berkeley campus to contribute their time and funds:

http://landscape.ced.berkeley.edu/~treefund

Richard Trout and Matthew Collar, the two people who worked on the website for the UCB tree fund you talk about, are both my friends and both against UCB's insane short-sighted plan to build over the Memorial Oak Grove. How much have you donated to the fund? Glad to hear you are supporting trees

2nd, we are opposed to the removal of the 10,000, mostly Eucalyptus trees over the hill as well, and you'd better believe that we won't sit by idly while they cut.

3rd, when I said 'spend 3 minutes in the trees' I didn't mean on the ground. I meant in the canopy. The grove is a home, not only to my friends living up there, but to countless animals and insects that so often go unnoticed to our senses, dulled by the urban setting.

There are many struggles out there, and we are all working together to get rid of civilization that relies on the unsustainable consuption of natural resources. If you oppose deforestation other places, or donate to tree-funds, I would support you. The least you can do is support other people working towards the same goal. I've read your previous comments, and I already have a sense that all you want to do is complain and think that your decisions and thoughts are right, and anyone who doesn't see that way is wrong. well, all your 'advice' that you are doling out on indy is falling on deaf ears.

instead of going around indybay posting your opinions to articles, why don't you go spend some time in a tree? that's how real change is affected.