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Monthly Marin Ranked Voting Meeting>San Rafael<Aroma Cafe{LA IRV UPDATE Contained}
Date:
Wednesday, July 18, 2007
Time:
7:00 PM
-
9:00 PM
Event Type:
Meeting
Organizer/Author:
Bob Richard
Email:
He perfers phone contact
Phone:
(415) 256-9393
Address:
Aroma Cafe in downtown San Rafael 1122 4th St
Location Details:
Off 101 - Downtown San Rafael exit - Just after the Richmond/San Rafael Bridge turn off, when going north on 101 - Go up 4th St. - toward San Anselmo
Between A and B Streets.
FW:
For its July meeting, Marin Ranked Voting will change locations. We
will meet at the Aroma Cafe in downtown San Rafael on Wednesday, July 18
at 7:00pm. Everyone interested in better ways of choosing public
officials is encouraged to drop by.
The Aroma Cafe is at 1122 4th Street, between A and B Streets. Our
regular location at College of Marin will be available again in August,
but we may decide to make the switch permanent anyway.
Meanwhile, you've seen lots of calls to action about AB 1294 recently,
and know that the next stop is the Senate Elections Committee on July
10. But did you know that IRV for city elections is now on the
political agenda in Los Angeles? On June 13 a committee of the City
Council instructed the city clerk to spend the next six months writing
up IRV and a laundry list of other proposals for improving turnout in
city elections.
Below is an extensive eyewitness report, plus documents, from David
Holtzman, Los Angeles area coordinator for Californians for Electoral
Reform.
-- Bob Richard
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [LAvoteFIRE] City Hall developments - from the 10th floor
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:19:11 -0700
From: David Holtzman
To: Friends, Members and Supporters of L.A. VoteFIRE
Dear Friends and Supporters of Having Instant Runoff Elections,
On Wed., June 13, on the 10th floor of city hall, the Los Angeles City
Council Rules and Elections Committee discussed several ways to improve
city elections, including the motion by Councilmembers Huizar and
Garcetti that would move the city a step closer to using Instant Runoff
Voting (IRV).
[see press coverage reproduced below]
Of about 50 people in the audience at the committee meeting, about a
dozen wore "IRV 4 LA" stickers that I brought along. Most of the
speakers expressed support for IRV, but the committee did not vote on
the Huizar-Garcetti motion -- because the discussion went too long (all
but one of the committee members left before it was over) and the IRV
issue is being folded into a larger report on election reform that the
City Clerk is expected to produce over the next six months.
The bottom line from the Rules and Elections Committee meeting last
Wednesday is that the committee did not vote on anything, but instead
asked City Clerk Frank Martinez to report back in 6 months, on several
proposals, including the Huizar-Garcetti motion on IRV, all together
under one council file number. Eric Garcetti said Jose Huizar would be
fine with that, although Huizar had come and gone hours before. So: the
IRV motion has been delayed because it has been combined with other
issues. In general, an omnibus election reform is not a very efficient
vehicle. (It reminds me of "Big Green", a multi-idea statewide
environmental initiative that eventually went down to defeat.)
Part of the delay on IRV was due to Committee Member Richard Alarcon's
opposition. In his remarks at the committee meeting, he expressed
displeasure with the claim that IRV would reduce negative advertising in
politics. Alarcon said that going negative was often a good idea in
politics. Then he disparaged IRV as "radical" because it is not yet in
widespread use in governmental elections in the United States ( --
although it is used in many places around the world, and by numerous
civic and professional groups in the U.S., and in many mainstream
academic communities). He acknowledged that democracy is expensive, but
would not jump on the "fewer elections" bandwagon (however, he may have
felt somewhat defensive in a room full of people concerned with voter
fatigue because his early departure from the State Legislature had just
casued a special election). Nevertheless, because Dennis Zine seemed
supportive, and Eric Garcetti seconded the motion, it is my sense that
if the IRV motion had been considered separately, it would have passed
the committee on a 2-1 vote.
Details of the committee meeting
The Rules and Elections Committee meeting started with (fairly long)
presentations from several influential groups about a variety of
election improvement ideas. The groups were: the African American Voter
Registration, Education and Participation Project; the Asian Pacific
American Legal Center of Southern California; California Common Cause;
the League of Women Voters of Los Angeles; the National Association of
Latino Elected and Appointed Officials; the New America Foundation; and
the William C. Velasquez Institute (formerly the Southwest Voter
Research Institute). Some very good news from the meeting is that all
the groups that expressed opinions on IRV said positive things. (At
least one presenter called it "the star of the show," to general
agreement.) So we can work together moving forward.
Individual Councilmembers also expressed support for IRV, and for some
of the other proposals being discussed (including ideas about holding
city elections at the same time as state elections, about the number and
location of polling places, and about letting people called to jury duty
work at the polls instead).
City Clerk's report
City Clerk Frank Martinez gave a long presentation about the most recent
election and related issues. For razzle-dazzle, his staff brought along
polling place hardware (voting booths, an audio ballot marker, and an
overvote/undervote alert system) and some pollworker recruitment
commercials. One thing he noted was that his office was understaffed
relative to similar offices in other big cities.
Combining elections to increase turnout
One obvious way to increase turnout in city elections would be to have
them on the same day as Congresssional and Presidential elections. But
the county is very reluctant to run city elections. So for the city to
have its elections on the same Election Day as state and federal
elections, the City Clerk would need to run a concurrent election.
Indeed, on May 15, the city and the county had successfully run two
separate elections at the same time and in the same polling places: a
vacant State Assembly seat (Alarcon's) was up in a special election (the
county runs state elections) while the L.A. Community College District
had a district-wide runoff that day for one of its board seats (the city
runs LACCD elections). But despite being proud of the May 15 effort,
Frank Martinez said he'd rather resign than run citywide elections --
with or without IRV -- on the same November Election Days as the county
runs the elections for federal and state offices. (Of course he might
just stay and conduct such citywide elections if the City Council would
address his complaint about the understaffing of his office.)
Anyway, for now, L.A. VoteFIRE has proposed using IRV to eliminate the
city's separate primary election day in March (of odd-numbered years).
This would let voters express their top choices and runoff choices on
the regular city general election ballot in May (of odd-numbered years),
with one trip to the polls or post office. This simple idea still
merits separate consideration.
FYI, please see the recent local press related to the meeting, below,
including a letter in the L.A. Times by Carole Bradley, who is an L.A.
VoteFIRE participant and an active member of the Alternative Voting
Methods committee of the League of Women Voters Pasadena Area.
As always, thank you for your continued support of having Instant Runoff
elections,
David Holtzman, Founder
Los Angeles Voters For Instant Runoff Elections.
[note: Last Saturday, the League of Women Voters of Los Angeles decided
to pursue education about instant runoff voting, and possible advocacy
of IRV (in concurrence with the Pasadena Area League), as an official
part of the LWVLA program that begins this year. So IRV is by no means
a dead issue for the balance of this year. L.A. VoteFIRE and other
organizations will be working with LWVLA to educate voters and the
public about instant runoffs, to help us be prepared for action when the
City Clerk presents his report. More on this in the next L.A. VoteFIRE
update!]
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Instant runoffs might be fix for voter fatigue
By Steve Hymon, Times Staff Writer
Los Angeles Times, June 11, 2007
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-localgovtqa11jun11,1,3096499.sto
ry
Let's begin by agreeing that the Los Angeles City Council's Rules and
Elections Committee is not exactly Comedy Central.
That's not saying committee Chairman Eric Garcetti isn't a host with a
sense of humor. He is. But hey, it's Rules and Elections. Short of
passing out whoopee cushions and nachos, you can only do so much.
But this Wednesday's meeting may be different because the committee is
going to discuss instant runoff voting. If you're tired of the endless
electioneering in the city, this is a good thing.
And the problem?
As attentive readers may recall, this column believes that perpetually
low turnout in city elections is due, in part, to the city's insistence
on holding elections in March of odd-numbered years. Any wonder that
turnout in this year's election was just 11% and even lower during the
May runoffs?
That means city elections follow directly on the heels of far sexier
general elections in November of even-numbered years. The result:
Election season feels like hockey season. It never ends.
Look at the next couple of years. Voters will have the presidential
primary in February, the state primaries in June and the general
election in November to decide the presidency.
Then, four months later in Los Angeles, in March 2009, eight council
seats and the citywide offices of controller, city attorney and mayor
will be up for grabs - with possible runoffs to follow in some of those
races.
That's five elections in 15 months. Uncle!
Would instant runoff be easier on voters?
Some experts say it would. It's already being used in San Francisco,
Oakland and Berkeley.
Instead of picking one candidate, voters would be asked to rank three by
order of preference. Those rankings, in turn, would determine the
winner.
Let's look at a hypothetical council election involving three
candidates: Charlie Brown, Lucy Van Pelt and Pigpen.
After the votes are tallied, Lucy received 45%, owing to her pledge to
institute a Great Pumpkin eradication program. Pigpen somehow manages
40% and Charlie Brown - always the loser - gets 15%.
Because no candidate received a majority, the election would enter an
instant runoff phase. The first step would be to eliminate the
last-place finisher and redistribute those votes according to whom
voters picked second.
In other words, if Charlie Brown was your first choice and Lucy your
second, then Lucy would get your vote. If Lucy gets enough of those
second-place votes to put her over the 50% mark, she wins.
The pros and cons of instant runoff:
The New America Foundation, which is pushing the proposal in cities
across the country, says Los Angeles could save money with instant
runoffs, having spent $30.9 million to administer separate runoff
elections since 1993.
That's not to mention all the fundraising and campaign promises - not
all well thought out - that accompany runoffs.
More important, the foundation says that candidates vying to be
someone's second or third choice would stick to the issues more
closely - and sometimes even build coalitions around issues.
"Local elections are some of the most important in terms of having an
impact on your daily life," said Lynne Serpe, deputy director of the
foundation's political reform program. "I think that elections have
become so negative and nasty that people tune out and turn off."
There is, of course, a con side. Runoffs can be logistically difficult,
and eliminating the May general election could also mean denying voters
a chance to get to better know the two finalists. Also, it could mean
that candidates could win even without a majority vote.
The Rules and Elections panel is only going to discuss the idea. But
Councilman Jose Huizar - who isn't on the committee - very much wants to
see the issue move forward for a council vote.
Huizar predicts his colleagues will go for the idea "if we can make the
case that we can save a whole lot of money and it will cut down on the
madness and negative campaigning."
And, Huizar added, it would also help if he can show that instant runoff
voting won't affect his colleagues' futures.
Stay tuned.
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Los Angeles may vote for change
Instant runoffs, new dates some proposals for combating low turnout
BY KERRY CAVANAUGH, Staff Writer
L.A. Daily News, June 14, 2007
To entice Angelenos back to the polls after record-low turnouts in
recent years, the city is mulling a host of changes, including new
election dates, more mail-in voting and instant runoff voting.
In this year's elections, 10 percent of registered voters participated
in the March primary and 7 percent turned out for the May general
election.
The reason?
In a hearing Wednesday, voter education groups cited voter fatigue from
too many elections, complicated initiatives, language barriers, negative
campaigning, lack of interest in local races and a growing belief that
voting doesn't matter.
"We really need to bring back what the importance is of local
elections," said Jimmy Valentine with the African American Voter
Registration, Education and Participation Program. "Your council
members, your school board members, those are the ones that figure in
your daily lives in your community."
One proposal to increase voter turnout - or at least reduce voter
fatigue - is instant runoff voting. The system, now used in San
Francisco, allows voters to rank the candidates in order of preference.
To determine the winner, officials tally first-choice candidates. If a
candidate has a majority, he or she wins. If there is no majority, the
last place candidate is eliminated and ballots that listed the candidate
as the first choice are recounted using the second choice. That
elimination and recount process is continued until a candidate gets a
majority of votes.
Supporters said instant runoff voting would be cheaper since there's
only one election and it could increase participation, since the number
of voters tends to decrease in local elections between the primary and
final election.
Councilman Jose Huizar said he began pushing instant runoff voting after
the last election when he went to vote for the community college board
trustee runoff, and was told only two other people (beside him and his
wife) had voted.
"I asked myself, wasn't I just here a few months ago to vote for this
person?" Huizar said.
So far the proposal has support from Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and
several City Council members, but it's still in the discussion phase and
would require changing the city charter and election code.
[note: the Mayor has not actually expressed his formal support for IRV.
This was an editing error by the Daily News. Apparently, the proposal
the mayor supports is vote-by-mail elections.--DAH]
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Letters to the Editor: Make votes really count
Re "Instant runoffs might be fix for voter fatigue," June 11
Los Angeles Times, June 15, 2007
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/letters/la-le-friday15.4jun15,1,7897
861.story
Based on the low turnout and high cost of the recent city runoff
election - which involved only two school board seats and one community
college position and cost taxpayers about $8 million - the Los Angeles
Community College District has endorsed the concept of change in our
electoral system. We have resolved to investigate instant-runoff voting
and look forward to the City Council's deliberations on a proposal by
Councilmen Eric Garcetti and Jose Huizar.
In San Francisco and other Bay Area cities, the instant runoff has
proved effective for saving taxpayer dollars and increasing voter
participation.
MONA FIELD
Eagle Rock
The writer is a trustee of the Los Angeles Community College District.
[note: to use IRV for LACCD elections would require a change in state
law, as LACCD elections are not governed by the L.A. City Charter.
Pending state legislation sponsored by Californians for Electoral Reform
may address this issue.--DAH]
Thanks for the timely article. One clarification is needed: With
instant-runoff voting, majority support for the winner is assured
without a separate election.
Also, because voter turnout in the separate runoffs is usually less than
in the primary, the majority support with an instant runoff would
usually represent a majority of more voters.
The Los Angeles City Council should lead the way in the county by using
an instant runoff to help fix the current system, which costs taxpayers
and candidates too much and leaves voters tired and covering their ears.
With an instant runoff, voters simply rank the candidates, indicating
who should get their vote if their favorite is eliminated, enabling
instantaneous runoffs.
This system would take the nastiness out of campaigns because candidates
would seek to get high rankings from their opponents' supporters.
CAROLE BRADLEY
Altadena
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Editorial: Instant runoff voting is worth a look
Local agencies can spend less on elections because the primary and
runoff occur simultaneously, which would mean less voter fatigue.
L.A. Daily Breeze editorial, June 15, 2007
The last two elections supervised by the Los Angeles City Clerk's Office
produced dismally low turnouts. Only 10 percent of registered voters
took part in the March primary election, and the May runoff election
drew only about 7 percent.
The problem isn't unique to the city of Los Angeles. Many local
elections in the South Bay seem to attract fewer and fewer voters.
A timely hearing held this week in the city of L.A. focused needed
attention on ways to improve voter turnout. One of the possible reforms
is instant-runoff voting, which has been successful in cities like San
Francisco.
In most jurisdictions, one can select one candidate per elected
position. If there are many candidates vying for one or two positions,
that usually means a runoff election is necessary for a candidate to
secure a majority.
Under the instant runoff system, however, voters can rank candidate
preferences (first choice, second choice and so on). If a candidate wins
a majority in the first-choice category, he wins outright. But if no
candidate wins a majority, the last-place candidate is eliminated, and
his voters' second choices are added to the tally. Gradually, less
popular candidates are eliminated until a candidate wins a majority of
preferences.
The concept might be confusing at first, but it has advantages. These
advantages include:
Cost. Local agencies can spend less on elections because the primary and
runoff occur simultaneously.
Democracy. Supporters say that using preferences is more democratic
than, say, city council elections which allow some candidates to win
with 25 percent pluralities - or less.
Less voter fatigue. Some observers suggest that so many special
elections have been held in California in recent years that voters are
staying away from the polls. If that's true, instant runoffs would
reduce the strain and increase turnouts.
More positive campaigns. The theory is that candidates would be less
inclined to go negative in order to do well in the second-choice
category. So the emphasis would be less on personalities and more an
issues.
We're not saying that instant runoffs are right for every jurisdiction.
But as Debra Bowen, the secretary of state and former South Bay state
senator, said recently, instant runoffs could be ideal in races such as
this month's 37th Congressional District election, which has a field of
17 candidates.
Charter cities can now use the instant runoff system, but state
legislation would be required to extend this choice to general law
cities and other jurisdictions. Simply put, public agencies need such
options to improve voter turnout and to strengthen democratic
institutions.
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Q&A | LOCAL GOVERNMENT
By Steve Hymon, Times Staff Writer
>From the Los Angeles Times, June 18, 2007
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-localgovtqa18jun18,1,6307777.sto
ry
[...]
How did the big discussion of instant runoff voting go in the City
Council's Rules and Elections Committee last Wednesday?
We teased that discussion here last week, not knowing the meeting would
turn into a three-hour-plus example of what happens when you put voter
rights activists in front of a microphone - they literally can't stop
talking.
The result of the meeting was that City Clerk Frank Martinez is going to
spend the next six months penciling a report on various ways to help
improve turnout and reduce the cost of city elections.
On the list of items Martinez will analyze are consolidating city
elections with November general elections, going to all mail-in ballots
and instant runoff voting, among others. A handful of elected officials
have expressed support for instant runoff, but there won't be a
meaningful debate on the issue until next year.
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