Anti-war Iraq vets reenact occupation at Washington DC landmarks
what a powerful action
really something
thanks IVAW!
It was brilliant and moving and powerful.
Corpsman-Up Vietnam 68/69
thanks to all participants, hope some of the onlookers got the point!
And thanks everyone for supporting IVAW and their Operation First Casualty,
It was an honor to have worked with my honorable fellow veterans, brave civilian actors and a huge staff of supporters. For everyone who has donated time, energy and love to IVAW I salute you.
Garett Reppenhagen
Chair for Iraq Veterans Against the War
I hope these squads break out all over America!
Knowing that it was protest doesn't change how people around the demonstration responded to it.
Thanks for shaking my headspace up a little bit.
It's easy to feel frustrated at this point. However, it is much harder for people to ignore vets.
Thank you for putting your power where it is most needed--right in our government's face.
Bravo!
I thought it was real at first as I didn't realize for a second that they didn't have any guns. It feels like they do though. Great idea. A visual taste for civilians to see a little about what goes on. Just a hint of how dark and ugly things are.
Semper pacificus.
Mikael Rudolph and Daniel Fearn
(meet some of ya'll in Seattle at the VFP Convention)
Well done all who continue to try to be heard, to be seen and to bring the lunacy of the Iraq war/invasion to an end. We need success for our fellow man as well as ourselves.
Namaste,
Tina Louise
Now, the current batch of civilians aren't up to it; the military has to do it for them. It really makes one pause when one hears that phrase "support the troops".
Much love from the hood.
Keep it up, and we'll stop this shit once and for all.
g.
eye-opening.
The technique holds great potential for consciousness raising.
Consequently, I suggest a day of several [or many]such
actions in a busy area at a critical time [like lunchtime].
Goodluck for a noble cause.
Thank you for speaking out.
keep up the good work.
Any coverage of the IVAW float in the SanFran Gay Pride parade with IVAW's "gayest member" Stephen Funk?
Wow, what a THEATRICAL, ARTISTIC perspective on OIF... but is it accurate?
As a member of the armed forces who has served twice in Iraq (OIF-2/-4), and who is now completing a PhD on counter-insurgency and urban operations involving Iraq (2004-2007), I am somewhat perplexed by the actions of IVAW et al.
I support freedom of speech and expression, and frankly IVAW can continue to demonstrate and engage in street theater to their hearts content. What is obviously lacking in their displays (written, verbal, etc), is a depiction of the complexity and reality of the operational environment, the men and women involved in such operations, the changes in policy and tactics since 2003, and the complicated and often contradictory perspectives of Iraqi civilians.
There have been fantastic gains AND significant losses over the last four and a half years, and while operations have been difficult, I am convinced that progress has been made - though at a cost to Americans, Iraqis, and Coalition members alike. Of course, one could certainly ask if my perspectives, and indeed if I as an individual see things objectively? I don't believe anyone could claim to be completely objective, though I make a concerted effort to listen to and read the opinions of those who do not share my viewpoint, as well as question my own assumptions and the veracity of information. I would ask if members of this forum and IVAW honestly do the same?
While the IVAW performance is provocative, it seems to be little more than insular, circumscribed theatrics... where is the theatrical portrayal that goes beyond presence patrols and detainee operations? Where are the scenes of Soldiers and Marines playing with children, the rebuilding a school, the mismanagement of reconstruction funds by contractors, the meeting where Sunni tribal sheikhs want to join US forces because al-Qa'ida in Iraq terrorized their people and killed their sons, the Marine jailed for mistreating or killing an Iraqi civilian, or the massive decrease in sectarian violence and criminality in Baghdad over the last few months (and not just according to figures supplied by the DOD, but verified by the New York Times, Christian Science Monitor, the Times (London), etc), the poor policy choices made by civilian leaders in the past that have influenced current ground realities, or the close-knit bonds that have developed between Soldiers at Combat Outposts and local Iraqis?
The fight for stability and security in Iraq is far too important and complex to trivialize it by saying 'everything is good' or 'everything is bad'... its an answer most people don't like, or want to accept. But in the case of Iraq, reductionist thinking will only provide simplistic, incomplete perspectives. Is an immediate withdrawal the correct course of action? Is any death of a member of our military worth the cost? At what point would it be worth the cost? If you're dead-set against foreign interventionism, particularly by military means, is that consistent with your perspectives on both Iraq AND Afghanistan, or does Afghanistan somehow not apply, or not apply as much? Would you have or have you protested past wars? Or is Iraq somehow different? And why? If you can answer these questions with using simplistic answers such as 'coz of the oil', or 'Iraq was an illegal war'... you're probably not getting my point.
But fear not, if you disagree with me or are challenged in your thinking, all you have to do is call me a war-monger, a part of the establishment, and casually toss aside my remarks - its up to you.
Peterson
Robert Placer
P.O. Box 29
Quakertown. PA 18951-0029
Thanks for your comment. You are correct. In addition to a narrator to explain the importance of the events taking place, it would also be informative for a narrator to explain the tactics, techniques, and procedures used during the patrols, searches, and questioning in order to explain to the public why these exact measures are required.
Respectfully,
Patriot
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