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Tens of thousands of antiwar protesters on Market St
At noon thousands started to gather at Powell and Market for a protest against the war in Iraq. Pollice tried to keep the crowds off the street but there were too many people. At one the permitted march started and tens of thousands of protesters started up Market St towards the Ferry building.
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Who is giving direction to the march... Is it Not in Our Name, or Answer, or both merged? I noticed that the IWW or ILWU had a much more prominent role for integrating this protest with local labor issues.
The spring Answer march should be a big deal, especially since the surge or second escalation does seem to be proceeding in Iraq despite what congress does.
There is also Iran.
The spring Answer march should be a big deal, especially since the surge or second escalation does seem to be proceeding in Iraq despite what congress does.
There is also Iran.
"The spring Answer march should be a big deal, especially since the surge or second escalation does seem to be proceeding in Iraq despite what congress does."
hmm, today is January 27 according to my calendar. spring won't even BEGIN for more than eight weeks.
ANSWER-style demos--whether held in early-spring, late-summer, mid-winter or whenever--have proven to be completely ineffective. that we should relish the fact that the next big action is being organized on that same, tired basis months from now is ridiculous.
these choreographed saturday strolls down empty city streets need to be discarded. they pose no threat and inspire hardly anyone.
does anyone out there remember the BART Alerts? that tradition--meeting at major BART stations at a designated time in response to our rulers' latest atrocities--should be renewed. they weren't perfection, but they were infinitely more promising than ANSWER/NION cow-herds.
hmm, today is January 27 according to my calendar. spring won't even BEGIN for more than eight weeks.
ANSWER-style demos--whether held in early-spring, late-summer, mid-winter or whenever--have proven to be completely ineffective. that we should relish the fact that the next big action is being organized on that same, tired basis months from now is ridiculous.
these choreographed saturday strolls down empty city streets need to be discarded. they pose no threat and inspire hardly anyone.
does anyone out there remember the BART Alerts? that tradition--meeting at major BART stations at a designated time in response to our rulers' latest atrocities--should be renewed. they weren't perfection, but they were infinitely more promising than ANSWER/NION cow-herds.
This shows that ANSWER, the World cant Wait, and the ISO United For Peace and Justice can work together towards a common goal. That is the real message.
If you took a count, or talked with someone who did, you might want to contact the S.F. Chronicle reporters at: chall [at] sfchronicle.com and vmarlin [at] sfchronicle.com The entire story is below!
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/01/27/BAG6GNQBK75.DTL
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Several thousand demonstrators take part in S.F. anti-war protest
Carl T. Hall and Vanessa Marlin, Chronicle Staff Writer
Saturday, January 27, 2007
(01-27) 15:13 PST SAN FRANCISCO -- Thousands of protesters took to the streets of downtown San Francisco this afternoon in a show of escalating discontent over President Bush's planned troop buildup in Iraq.
Some 3,000 to 5,000 protesters marched through city streets in a passionate condemnation of the administration's handling of the war effort. Though the protest was smaller than what organizers had hoped, the march was one of several anti-war rallies held around the country to bolster a larger event in Washington, D.C. today with tens of thousands of marchers.
In San Francisco, protesters included a drum corps, a marching band, a crew of anarchists, Gray Panthers and plenty of families. They began around noon at Powell and Market streets, then walked down Market toward the Bay and north along the Embarcadero to Pier 31.
There they gathered in the late afternoon and listened to speeches against the war -- and had plenty to say themselves.
"This is the wrong war. It's a war for bogus reasons. It's an illegal war," said Korean War veteran John Shively, 79, of Oakland.
Several people wore buttons reading "Purge the Surge." One was Cathy Quistgard of Santa Rosa, the mother of two Iraq war veterans who had spent a year in the same Army Special Forces unit in Baghdad.
"I hope people are starting to be more aware of what the situation is, and that we need to be out here," Quistgard said. Referring to the president, she added: "He's had a few chances already. You can't just keep trying while people's lives are at stake."
Rachel O'Reilly, 21, a San Francisco office worker, held a sign demanding "No Iraq Escalation." She was one of many who said she was motivated to join the protest movement by Bush's latest promise of a troop build-up.
"I was against the war before, but I didn't have such passion to be out there as I do now," she said.
The troop build-up also drew in protesters who had previously stayed away because of the anti-Israel tone that permeates many of the peace marches -- including the one on Saturday.
Elly Simmons, 51, and her daughter Maralisa Simmons, 13, of Lagunitas, said she had avoided past marches for that reason but has become so fed up that she changed her mind.
"Definitely, the troop surge had something to do with it," Elly Simmons said. Maralisa held a sign that said "Fighters Need Family," which she explained meant that "people should not have to spend that long in Iraq. They have families here."
The anti-war rallies staged across the country included protests in Los Angeles; Chicago; and Austin, TX. Tens of thousands who converged on Washington, D.C. witnessed actress and fitness guru Jane Fonda's first public appearance against the Iraq war, 35 years after she was dubbed "Hanoi Jane" during the Vietnam conflict by conservatives angered by her anti-war trip to North Vietnam.
Saturday's actions have been planned since just after the 2006 elections as a way to "sort of show the new members of Congress that activists are going to hold them accountable," said Snehal Shingavi, an organizer of the San Francisco event.
Bush's announcement in his State of the Union message last week that he intended to send an additional 21,500 U.S. troops to the war zone gave the protests extra impetus and fueled claims of a nationwide "peace surge" to counter the White House war plan.
One of the speakers at the San Francisco protest was Carolyn Ho, mother of Army Lt. Ehren Watada, who faces court martial starting Feb. 5 at Fort Lewis, Wash., and a possible prison term for his refusal last June to deploy as ordered to Iraq.
Dressed in jeans and an orange overcoat, Ho told the crowd that her son had been motivated to join the military after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, though he did so against her wishes.
When no weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq, she said, Watada felt mislead by the Bush administration. In an interview, Ho said that she was speaking at the rally "not just as a mother, but because I admire acts of conscience."
In San Francisco, she said, "I'm overwhelmed by people's support."
Watada has claimed he didn't have to go to Iraq because he considered the war to be illegal under international law. But a military judge has ruled Watada's attorney can't argue the legality of the war as part of his defense.
E-mail the writers at chall [at] sfchronicle.com and vmarlin [at] sfchronicle.com.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/01/27/BAG6GNQBK75.DTL
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Several thousand demonstrators take part in S.F. anti-war protest
Carl T. Hall and Vanessa Marlin, Chronicle Staff Writer
Saturday, January 27, 2007
(01-27) 15:13 PST SAN FRANCISCO -- Thousands of protesters took to the streets of downtown San Francisco this afternoon in a show of escalating discontent over President Bush's planned troop buildup in Iraq.
Some 3,000 to 5,000 protesters marched through city streets in a passionate condemnation of the administration's handling of the war effort. Though the protest was smaller than what organizers had hoped, the march was one of several anti-war rallies held around the country to bolster a larger event in Washington, D.C. today with tens of thousands of marchers.
In San Francisco, protesters included a drum corps, a marching band, a crew of anarchists, Gray Panthers and plenty of families. They began around noon at Powell and Market streets, then walked down Market toward the Bay and north along the Embarcadero to Pier 31.
There they gathered in the late afternoon and listened to speeches against the war -- and had plenty to say themselves.
"This is the wrong war. It's a war for bogus reasons. It's an illegal war," said Korean War veteran John Shively, 79, of Oakland.
Several people wore buttons reading "Purge the Surge." One was Cathy Quistgard of Santa Rosa, the mother of two Iraq war veterans who had spent a year in the same Army Special Forces unit in Baghdad.
"I hope people are starting to be more aware of what the situation is, and that we need to be out here," Quistgard said. Referring to the president, she added: "He's had a few chances already. You can't just keep trying while people's lives are at stake."
Rachel O'Reilly, 21, a San Francisco office worker, held a sign demanding "No Iraq Escalation." She was one of many who said she was motivated to join the protest movement by Bush's latest promise of a troop build-up.
"I was against the war before, but I didn't have such passion to be out there as I do now," she said.
The troop build-up also drew in protesters who had previously stayed away because of the anti-Israel tone that permeates many of the peace marches -- including the one on Saturday.
Elly Simmons, 51, and her daughter Maralisa Simmons, 13, of Lagunitas, said she had avoided past marches for that reason but has become so fed up that she changed her mind.
"Definitely, the troop surge had something to do with it," Elly Simmons said. Maralisa held a sign that said "Fighters Need Family," which she explained meant that "people should not have to spend that long in Iraq. They have families here."
The anti-war rallies staged across the country included protests in Los Angeles; Chicago; and Austin, TX. Tens of thousands who converged on Washington, D.C. witnessed actress and fitness guru Jane Fonda's first public appearance against the Iraq war, 35 years after she was dubbed "Hanoi Jane" during the Vietnam conflict by conservatives angered by her anti-war trip to North Vietnam.
Saturday's actions have been planned since just after the 2006 elections as a way to "sort of show the new members of Congress that activists are going to hold them accountable," said Snehal Shingavi, an organizer of the San Francisco event.
Bush's announcement in his State of the Union message last week that he intended to send an additional 21,500 U.S. troops to the war zone gave the protests extra impetus and fueled claims of a nationwide "peace surge" to counter the White House war plan.
One of the speakers at the San Francisco protest was Carolyn Ho, mother of Army Lt. Ehren Watada, who faces court martial starting Feb. 5 at Fort Lewis, Wash., and a possible prison term for his refusal last June to deploy as ordered to Iraq.
Dressed in jeans and an orange overcoat, Ho told the crowd that her son had been motivated to join the military after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, though he did so against her wishes.
When no weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq, she said, Watada felt mislead by the Bush administration. In an interview, Ho said that she was speaking at the rally "not just as a mother, but because I admire acts of conscience."
In San Francisco, she said, "I'm overwhelmed by people's support."
Watada has claimed he didn't have to go to Iraq because he considered the war to be illegal under international law. But a military judge has ruled Watada's attorney can't argue the legality of the war as part of his defense.
E-mail the writers at chall [at] sfchronicle.com and vmarlin [at] sfchronicle.com.
The right wing pro-war israel nutjobs always show up.
It's no surprising that they were M.I.A. until the crowd got smaller.
It's no surprising that they were M.I.A. until the crowd got smaller.
OK. How many was there? Link to traffic video cameras ?
Mainstream media has always underestimated the numbers of people who attend those protests.
It's their contribution to the Iraq War.
It's their contribution to the Iraq War.
The always show up.
It's no surprising that they were M.I.A. until the crowd got smaller.
There were about 50 across on Market street.
It's no surprising that they were M.I.A. until the crowd got smaller.
There were about 50 across on Market street.
The pro-Israel contingent was there across Market from 11:30 until the last of the march left. Dunno what you are talking about "waiting for the crowd to get smaller."
A smaller pro-Israel contingent was at Pier 33. They got there when they got there. It had nothing to do with size, more to do with traffic.
A smaller pro-Israel contingent was at Pier 33. They got there when they got there. It had nothing to do with size, more to do with traffic.
I noticed the I.W.W. (A.K.A. the "Wobblies") showed up and had a contingent and two tables. Anyone have any photos of them?
"This shows that ANSWER, the World cant Wait, and the ISO United For Peace and Justice can work together towards a common goal. That is the real message."
It shows that all the old authoritarian left and their front groups can agree on a day to march around together. What we need is a militant antiwar movement that discards the terrified liberal set and their Stalinist/Trotskyist choreographers. I do think the fact that the march went to support the Hornblower picket was a great action though.
And whoever is asking for pictures of IWW members, you sound like a cop.
It shows that all the old authoritarian left and their front groups can agree on a day to march around together. What we need is a militant antiwar movement that discards the terrified liberal set and their Stalinist/Trotskyist choreographers. I do think the fact that the march went to support the Hornblower picket was a great action though.
And whoever is asking for pictures of IWW members, you sound like a cop.
If they wanted their faces hidden they could have wore masks. The police have thier own survailence squads. The IWW is not under investigation for anything nor did anything illegal at that march. If the cops wanted pictures they would have taken them themselves.
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