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The Black Liberation Army Eight: Murderers or Prisoners of War?

by ntuit
In the 60s & 70s, there was a real war going on between the Black Liberation Groups and The American Police

In the zeal to prosecute 8 members of the Black Liberation Army for the 1971 killing of a San Francisco police officer, it might be worthwhile to revisit the sordid history of the American racism and the history of the American police as the enforcers of an American “Apartheid.”

For almost 100 years from 1880 through the 1970s, America was a virtual apartheid state enforced by the paid agents of the establishment, the police. Many employees of the police departments of southern US states were members of the Ku Klux Klan. Of course, there were almost no black police officers. The same could be said for the police departments outside of the south, they were filled with a racist, anti-black attitudes with virtually no black police officers. Black men were the targets of police abuse and the police were backed up by the white American society which controlled the judiciary and courts. In almost no cases would the word of a black man be accepted over that of a police officer. Black men were assaulted, beaten, murdered, falsely accused, imprisoned on false charges, confessions were beaten out of innocent black men and innocent black men, some juveniles, were executed. Capital rape was a crime for which almost all executions were of black men for rapes of white women. Crimes against blacks by blacks and whites were many times not given serious investigation and were frequently tolerated.

The national congress of the United States was controlled by a cabal of racist southern senators, who gained power by being elected over and over again by the southern electorate. Blacks, of course, were not able to register to vote in most places in the US south. If you tried, you might be beaten or killed. This powerful group of southern politicians, who ruled the congress for almost 100 years, would never permit legislation which would have improved the rights and conditions of African Americans.

Even with in the past decade, there have been proven cases of police targeting black male drivers for illegal stops on interstate highways. Black men (remember Rodney King) have been beaten unreasonably by police. In New York City, police in recent years have killed unarmed black men with excessive use of force. Remember Amadou Diallo (41 shots)and more recently Sean Bell (50 rounds) in Queens, NY?

The current day San Francisco Police Department describes the officer who was killed (John Young) as being a true community police officer-a nice guy who cared about people. Its funny, but that same thing can be said about that police officer and all the others and for much of the American populace of the time. To their families, friends, churchgoers, and other whites, they were “nice” upstanding people. But for some reason, when they dealt with African Americans, and particularly black males, they could be racist, evil, cruel and at times murderous. I’m not going to suggest that Officer Young was like that. I do not know. But from my life experience, I know how people would overlook the racism and evil within their friends, family and themselves because it was just the way it was. America was a racist, apartheid state for years and this mentality of white America was commonplace. This should not be ignored. Kindness, love and goodwill appear to have gone out the door when it came to the black part of our community. For those of us who are white, the “good” people of America, our grandparents, our parents, our police, our teachers…they were really not so good when it came to race. They were in fact evil. Why do we want to deny that truth?

For some reason, the American people cannot come to terms of the US being a fascist, aparthied state. That is…if you were black. Given the conditions and treatment of African American males, is it any surprise that they might take up arms to defend themselves? Is there any reason for them to see things in any other way than as war against them with the American police forces as the front line of the enemy?

In light of American history, were these men murderers who should be brought to justice or are they prisoners of war? How are they any different that the resistance against the Nazis in France or against Franco in Spain. It all depends on who does the defining. One man’s insurgent is another man’s liberator. When it comes time for judgment, we should take a look at the whole picture. Not just the parts that conveniently fit our preconceived notions. Then there might be a chance for some justice.
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by for the real

...heroes whom the world left behind.
by .
the police are always ready to pounce on me because im of mixed ancestry. death threats etc. they cannot believe that an african ''male'' isnt a ''crimonal''. also in past 6 years ive witnessed a half dozen incidents where police let a white male get away with pulverizing minorities and women. right in front of people , with witnesses. the white male is talked to in a diplomatic quiet manner, even though there is a person lying on the ground from the white mans assault. even bleeding person was ignored in favor of the , usually anglo looking white assaulter.
by tiutni
So if you are white, then your grand parents, your parents, the police and your teachers were all evil? That's a pretty broad brush you're usin there intuit. I remember that long ago summer night when the first news flash came about the death of an officer at Ingleside Station. I remember my Dad calling on the phone to try to find out who had been killed. I remember when he got the news that his friend, Sergeant John V. Young had been murdered. I remember all of this because it was one of two times in my life that I saw my Dad break down and cry. Sergeant Young was a good and decent man without a racist bone in his body. He was devoutly religious and recognized that race was not a factor in God's eyes. He was killed because he was the station Sergeant that night. No other reason. He was just there. A group of people thought, for whatever reason, that it would be O.K. to enter that lightly guarded station, shove a loaded shotgun through a hole in the bullet resistant glass and blast out the very large heart of a man who's only offense was showing up to work that night. That you can somehow serve as an apologist for such a heinous act is truly unconscionable. Perhaps it was the very nature of that man that caused our justice system to pursue his assailants so relentlessly. Whatever the reason, the men accused of this most despicable crime will have their day in court. They will enjoy all of the protections that were denied to Sergeant Young that night. If they are found to be not guilty of the crime alleged, so be it. But if they are in fact guilty of the crime as charged, then true justice in this case will finally have been obtained. Either way, it matters not to Sergeant Young. He rests with the angels and the vasltly inferior justice of this world will never compare to that which awaits his assailants in the next.
by ntuit
Re In Memorium - you probably believe in the death penalty. How about black men who were beaten by cops in the south and other places into making confessions in capital cases in which they were finally executed - even though they were innocent.? Do you care about them and that justice or only for your father's friend? Unfortunately, Mr. Young was collateral damage (as American military calls innocents they kill in the conflicts we engage in) in a war between the underground black movement and the police. Did he deserve to die? NO. Was his murder wrong? Yes. But you didn't read what I wrote or you didn't understand it. Some black men were driven to fight against an oppressive force in the US-the police. You should try to rise up above your personal situation and look at things from the perspective of other people. But that is difficult and so inconvenient. You might have to admit that there was some basis for this war against the police. As for SFPD, even though they are all wonderful people - I will never forget reading about a young african American male who was killed by two SFPD cops in the mid-eighties. Before they killed (murdered?) him they could be heard calling our "nigger" several times. His name was Larry or Leroy Lumpkin I believe. Did you hear about that one? Does it matter to you?
by ntuit
For those who are ignorant but open to understanding the sordid history of the Black American male and the American police state, here are a few resources:


The book “TULIA: Race, Cocaine, and Corruption in a Small Texas Town” by Nate Blakeslee is an excellent insight on law enforcement, the drug wars and the railroading of a large percent of the black community in a Texas panhandle community. An undercover police agent, son of a former Texas Ranger, lied about drug buys in this Texas town. Dozens were sent to prison some for terms up to 90 years. Lives were ruined. Does anyone care?

http://www.amazon.com/Tulia-Cocaine-Corruption-Small-Texas/dp/1586484540/sr=8-1/qid=1170274164/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-7223287-6877626?ie=UTF8&s=books

More recently, the police in Queens New York, who shot at an unarmed Sean Bell over 50 times and killed him, have attempted to smear Bell and his friends. There is a good article in THE VILLAGE VOICE on how the police in this case are trying to intimidate and discredit the friends and family of this innocent Black American.

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0702,gardiner,75495,2.html

In “THE ICEBOX REVISITED” Keven McAllester tells the tale of a group of teenaged African American boys who were railroaded by the racist Houston criminal justice system. One of them Adrian Johnson, was executed in the Texas electric chair. The were accused of killing a 13 year old white boy in the summer of 1959 and stuffing his body in an icebox. There was almost no evidence against them and they were railroaded by a kangaroo court. Don Reid, a tough, seasoned reporter for the Huntsville Item, who witnessed 189 executions in the electric chair and got to know many of the condemned men, said in his book “Eyewitness” that he was almost absolutely certain that Adrian Johnson had nothing to do with the murder.

http://search.houstonpress.com/Issues/2004-03-11/news/feature_full.html

And why not read Don Reid’s “EYEWITNESS” also published as “Have A Seat, Please.” He tells a story of the conveyor belt of criminal injustice which sent many poor black and white men to their deaths mainly because they were poor and/or black. He also believes that innocents were killed because of this process. Additionally, Texas police were known for beating confessions out of prisoners which later landed them on death row. Does anyone care about these men and the injustices they and their families suffered?

http://www.tamu.edu/upress/BOOKS/2001/reid.htm


The list goes on and on, but these are just a small sampling of a vast history of injustice and corruption in the American police state. One can remain with his or her head in the sand believing our past was like something out of “Father Knows Best.” The truth is something much, much uglier. Once we face the truth, we can begin to heal and make changes. But as we see with the US invasion in Iraq, belief in lies and deception is very convenient for an ignorant American public.
by Blackness
Thank you ntuit for laying out the truth! Americans-at least those in denial-like to shift attention away from the real enemy. The enemy is discriminatiom, oppression, priviledge and racism, which is still active in this country! History has shown us how many whites, cops and other racist groups, have been killing, lynching, castrating, raping, and oppressing Blacks for centuries. And, even today, remanants of those behaviors continue to exist. At some point, those being oppressed will rise and take matters into their own hands.

I don't know if the "The Black Liberation 8" murdered Officer Young, but it would only be a matter of time that Blacks would bring about relief to their dire situations. I don't condone the murdering of anyone who has violated, murdered, negated or oppressed others for centuries, but something must be done.

Black people are tired of being denied justice and the right to exist peacefully in this country! A country in which we've contributed greatly.

Blaming "The Black 8" for the death of Officer Young is a way to transfer the blame from the politicians, capitalists, SFPD, and the media who contributed to such a hostile, racist, and oppressive environment that Blacks were assigned to. I see these groups-and those who think like these groups-as ostrichs. One who run and stick their heads in the sand to avoid the truth. Ntuit, you are a blessing and I thank you for delivering the truth., even when others attack you or consider you as a race traitor.

If these 'Ostrich-like" groups were to invest as much attention to the injustices inflicted upon Blacks throughout the history of this great country, then I would have hope and belief in our justice system and democracy.

In regards to the fate of the Black 8, I don't have hope that our justice system will conduct a fair trial or have a jury of their peers.


by Tiutni
FYI. I am strongly opposed to the death penalty. I recognize that all men have fallen short of the glory of God and as such, I have little confidence in the ability of men (or women) to pass that type of judgement on anyone. I also believe that no matter what crime is committed, the person responsible has a shot at redemption for as long as they live. Cutting short such an opportunity by executing someone is just plain wrong. I would ask Mr. (or Ms.) Blackness, how the murder of Sergeant Young served in any way to alieve the black population of our country, from the dire situations they face. This was a man who actively sought opportunities to involve himself in the lives of young people of color. He took them on trips and outings that may never have been possible otherwise. He served as a role model and father figure for many young people, across the racial spectrum. He was actively involved in the African American Community of that time. His death was utterly random, in that his only offense was to try to shut the metal covering over the hole in the bullet resistant glass. He stepped up to protect a civilian clerk and for that, took the brunt of the shotgun blast fired by a homicidal thug. That you, or anyone, could be so arrogant as to justify this act of cowardice, as a blow for black people is, quite frankly, astounding. The African American community of that time (as will always be the case) were and are, made up of decent, law abiding citizens. It goes without saying that the vast majority of them decried an act of such senseless violence. Would that some of them had been present that night, they'd have stepped up to prevent such an act, irrespective of their knowledge of Sergeant Young's background or character. They would feel true shame at your lame attempts to associate them with the horrible people who launched that attack. There are those among us (Intuit a prime example) who live to create divisions based on artificial constructs such as race. They do so for an ulterior motive that they feel justifies their efforts. The fact is that socialistic revolution is largely a pipe dream and one which none of us will likely see in our lifetime. It is unrealistic because it has been tried and has failed in the former USSR, Communist China and elsewhere. It has failed because it inevitably denies people the freedoms that are enjoyed in non-communist countries. But they (Inuit included) are nothing if they are not relentless. They will continue to seed divisions based on race, sex, orientation etc., whatever serves their ultimate goal. The problem with this has a connection to my opposition to the death penalty. In a perfect world, socialisim clearly represents the best way to operate as a world community. The flaw in it lies with people. Someone has to run it and absolute power will always corrupt. Absolutely.
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