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World Trade Center Premieres, 9/11 Truth Movement Responds
A review of Oliver Stone's new film, World Trade Center, as well as the day's events, civil disobedience and an arrest on the East Coast, legal leafletting across the country, a strong statement on the West Coast marquee of the Grand Lake Theater where 9-11 Truth activists were invited to table, the mainstream press coverage.
Oliver Stone’s films have deeply touched many people’s lives, including my own. His film, JFK, prompted me to research the CIA and catalyzed my activism. I wrote to Stone twice, when we were working on one of the first American 9/11 truth documentaries, and later when I heard that he was making a film about 9/11. I sent him materials, books, documentaries about 9/11, and encouraged him to tell William Rodriguez’s story. Rodriguez worked in the North Tower and rescued many people, miraculously he lived through the experience. He also heard explosions before the first plane crashed, and witnessed the injuries that those explosions caused. I thought that Rodriguez’s story deeply challenged the official narrative of 9/11, and could wake people up to the reality that “9/11 was an Inside Job,” perhaps the biggest “psychological operation” of all times.
Stone’s film, rather than casting light on the “defining event” of the century, retraumatizes the viewer, plunging them into an abyss of pain and suffering, into the dark and oblivious to the who, how, why, what, of the attacks. 9/11 has become the foundation stone used to terrify the American people and the world into supporting a “bogus war on terrorism,” the dismantling of the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, and has put the world back into the Dark Ages, pre-Magna Carta. The Administration asserts its power to kill, torture, assassinate anyone they label to be a “terrorist” and deem to be a threat to the “National Security State.”
Stone’s film centers on the narrative of two Port Authority police officers, trapped in the rubble, who are found by a Christian, who feels called by God to join the rescue efforts, and who signed up later for duty in Iraq to avenge his country.
The film is painful to watch. When Nicholas Cage and Oliver Stone attended a packed pre-release premiere held in San Francisco, a stunned audience failed to even clap at the end, until prodded by the studio sponsors; Cage and Stone disappeared and no one was able to question them. A free premiere in the East Bay drew a scant 80 people. At the Grand Lake Theater in Oakland, where I saw it, and was invited to table in the lobby, the audience was pitifully small, and the consensus was that despite all the hype, media coverage and rave reviews, the film would be a box office flop.
It was not without some redeeming qualities, after all two men survived a horrific ordeal; they lived because they had one another, and something to live for- wives, children who loved and needed them.
Perhaps Stone, himself, after being crucified by the press as a “conspiracy theorist” didn’t dare to go “there” (to challenge directly the official narrative) and left the hardest work-of digging the public out of the traumatizing black hole that was 9-11- to activists. The film is an opportunity for us to do direct outreach to theater goers who care about 9-11 and hope to increase their understanding of the days’ events, but have been left in the dark. The goal of most activists leafleting theaters is to cast some light and hope upon our collective situation, to educate the public about the basic facts about 9/11 which have been censored, omitted, distorted by the press and the cover-up commission.
There are some subtle allusions in the film to anomalies which don’t fit neatly into the official “myth” painted by the Kean-Zelikow Commission such as the collapse of Building #7, the 47 story structure, not hit by plane nor significant debris, that collapsed into its footprint late in the afternoon, and was omitted in the Commission Report, unexplained by the FEMA report. The fireballs, or molten metal that suddenly threatened the trapped policemen could perhaps best be explained by BYU Professor Steven Jones whose analyses of the dust, the rubble, video, and thermal evidence suggests that the incendiary thermite was used to melt the core columns and bring down the structures. Since half the population doesn’t even realize that building number 7 existed or collapsed, and fewer have ever encountered challenges to the official explanation for the unprecedented collapse of three steel framed skyscrapers, these small clues, that something was deeply amiss, are likely to be overlooked by the typical moviegoer.
William Rodriguez calls 9/11 “a magic trick,” an illusion. Max Cleland who resigned from the Commission said that the “American people were being scammed.” The hoax was used to sell war, and the guy in the film, who joined the marines, fell for it, hook, lone and sinker.
At some point in the movie the camera pulls back from Earth to a satellite in the sky, where images of the fireball and devastation are transmitted worldwide and in numerous languages. The director did not pull back and draw attention to the failure of the military to defend the country, or to Cheney issuing orders from his bunker, or allude to the multiple wargames that were being conducted, and were dismissed by the Commission Report in a minor footnote. There is no hint of money made from foreknowledge on put options, the multiple warnings from other countries, the financing of the operation, the hobnobbing of top US government officials with the head of Pakistan’s ISI, Lt General Mahmoud Ahmad before, during and after the attacks, who also ordered $100,000 wired to Mohammed Atta. The vast majority of questions raised by the victim’s families are unarticulated and unanswered in the film.
David Ray Griffin’s book- The 9/11 Report- Omissions and Distortions chronicles the flagrant holes, lies, and distortions in the official narrative and ultimately calls the Report a 571 page lie.
By narrowly focusing the film on a very few people’s drama, the film helps to conceal the most vital true information about 9/11 that does have the potential to transform the American people, the country, and to help them lift the American boot from the throat of the world.
Only by recognizing the truth about 9/11 and identifying the actual perpetrators, those who construed “a catastrophic and catalyzing event like a new Pearl Harbor” (The Project for a New American Century- which includes the Cheney cabal) to transform the American military to carry out their imperial agenda, will we be able to stop them. Napoleon believed that truth couldn’t be completely suppressed, but that it could be effectively delayed. Cheney adheres to the same philosophy; in fifty years, however, the truth will not matter. The truth matters now, if we want to impede the construction of a “Global Security State,” rein in our shadow government that is responsible for state-sponsored terrorism, and prevent them from terrorizing and killing more Americans and innocent civilians in other countries.
As in the film, pulling the American people out from under the rubble of propaganda, is no easy task, and it is a group effort, the 9/11 Truth Movement has grown over the years bringing together researchers, activists, artists, journalists, film-makers, musicians, professors, teachers, scientists, hackers, a wide range of people with varied talents and skills who have worked cooperatively to understand the truth, dismantle the lies, see through the deceptions, discover the evidence, communicate their understanding through a variety of mediums, and work together to expose the deceptions used to trick people into supporting wars, to provide the vision of a post 9/11 Truth world, where war becomes a thing of the past, and precious human and natural resources are redirected from killing and controlling people for the benefit of a few towards healing people and planet for the benefit of all.
Truth, peace, hope, and justice for a better world is a more powerful unifying force than the promise of endless war and allowing fear to dominate our lives.
We need as much courage as those who lived through the ordeal that was 9/11, the courage to live, to take responsibility of our own government, to demand accountability and to not permit it to flagrantly violate national, international and moral laws.
Dave Slesinger, http://www.911courage.org, proposed doing civil disobedience at suburban shopping malls, leafleting on forbidden corporate private space at the premiere of Oliver Stone’s film. Most people weren’t mentally, or physically prepared for arrest, but many of us agreed with the idea, and collectively worked on a website, leaflets, outreach, publicity. I was prepared to do civil disobedience, but in California the theater managers were so supportive of my work that I was given the green light to leaflet at the local theaters, and invited to table at the Grand Lake Theater where Allen Michaan posted on his marquee-
Was 9/11 AN INSIDE JOB?
911TRUTH.ORG and
GOOGLE SEARCH EXPLOSIVE TESTIMONY.
Local television channels 2 and 4 interviewed me, and others, for their nightly news broadcasts. They also were very receptive to our educational materials, and we gave them Deception Dollars, magazines, DVDs and spoke at length.
In Florida, Mia Hamel was arrested for civil disobedience which became the lead story on her local FOX news station. Dave Slesinger did civil disobedience, passing out leaflets in Maryland, but was not arrested. Many people in a number of states chose to leaflet legally, and some in stealth, inside darkened theaters.
The window of opportunity to leaflet the World Trade Center might not be open very long, if the film flops, but I’m sure there will be many other film leafleting opportunities down the road.
Stone’s film, rather than casting light on the “defining event” of the century, retraumatizes the viewer, plunging them into an abyss of pain and suffering, into the dark and oblivious to the who, how, why, what, of the attacks. 9/11 has become the foundation stone used to terrify the American people and the world into supporting a “bogus war on terrorism,” the dismantling of the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, and has put the world back into the Dark Ages, pre-Magna Carta. The Administration asserts its power to kill, torture, assassinate anyone they label to be a “terrorist” and deem to be a threat to the “National Security State.”
Stone’s film centers on the narrative of two Port Authority police officers, trapped in the rubble, who are found by a Christian, who feels called by God to join the rescue efforts, and who signed up later for duty in Iraq to avenge his country.
The film is painful to watch. When Nicholas Cage and Oliver Stone attended a packed pre-release premiere held in San Francisco, a stunned audience failed to even clap at the end, until prodded by the studio sponsors; Cage and Stone disappeared and no one was able to question them. A free premiere in the East Bay drew a scant 80 people. At the Grand Lake Theater in Oakland, where I saw it, and was invited to table in the lobby, the audience was pitifully small, and the consensus was that despite all the hype, media coverage and rave reviews, the film would be a box office flop.
It was not without some redeeming qualities, after all two men survived a horrific ordeal; they lived because they had one another, and something to live for- wives, children who loved and needed them.
Perhaps Stone, himself, after being crucified by the press as a “conspiracy theorist” didn’t dare to go “there” (to challenge directly the official narrative) and left the hardest work-of digging the public out of the traumatizing black hole that was 9-11- to activists. The film is an opportunity for us to do direct outreach to theater goers who care about 9-11 and hope to increase their understanding of the days’ events, but have been left in the dark. The goal of most activists leafleting theaters is to cast some light and hope upon our collective situation, to educate the public about the basic facts about 9/11 which have been censored, omitted, distorted by the press and the cover-up commission.
There are some subtle allusions in the film to anomalies which don’t fit neatly into the official “myth” painted by the Kean-Zelikow Commission such as the collapse of Building #7, the 47 story structure, not hit by plane nor significant debris, that collapsed into its footprint late in the afternoon, and was omitted in the Commission Report, unexplained by the FEMA report. The fireballs, or molten metal that suddenly threatened the trapped policemen could perhaps best be explained by BYU Professor Steven Jones whose analyses of the dust, the rubble, video, and thermal evidence suggests that the incendiary thermite was used to melt the core columns and bring down the structures. Since half the population doesn’t even realize that building number 7 existed or collapsed, and fewer have ever encountered challenges to the official explanation for the unprecedented collapse of three steel framed skyscrapers, these small clues, that something was deeply amiss, are likely to be overlooked by the typical moviegoer.
William Rodriguez calls 9/11 “a magic trick,” an illusion. Max Cleland who resigned from the Commission said that the “American people were being scammed.” The hoax was used to sell war, and the guy in the film, who joined the marines, fell for it, hook, lone and sinker.
At some point in the movie the camera pulls back from Earth to a satellite in the sky, where images of the fireball and devastation are transmitted worldwide and in numerous languages. The director did not pull back and draw attention to the failure of the military to defend the country, or to Cheney issuing orders from his bunker, or allude to the multiple wargames that were being conducted, and were dismissed by the Commission Report in a minor footnote. There is no hint of money made from foreknowledge on put options, the multiple warnings from other countries, the financing of the operation, the hobnobbing of top US government officials with the head of Pakistan’s ISI, Lt General Mahmoud Ahmad before, during and after the attacks, who also ordered $100,000 wired to Mohammed Atta. The vast majority of questions raised by the victim’s families are unarticulated and unanswered in the film.
David Ray Griffin’s book- The 9/11 Report- Omissions and Distortions chronicles the flagrant holes, lies, and distortions in the official narrative and ultimately calls the Report a 571 page lie.
By narrowly focusing the film on a very few people’s drama, the film helps to conceal the most vital true information about 9/11 that does have the potential to transform the American people, the country, and to help them lift the American boot from the throat of the world.
Only by recognizing the truth about 9/11 and identifying the actual perpetrators, those who construed “a catastrophic and catalyzing event like a new Pearl Harbor” (The Project for a New American Century- which includes the Cheney cabal) to transform the American military to carry out their imperial agenda, will we be able to stop them. Napoleon believed that truth couldn’t be completely suppressed, but that it could be effectively delayed. Cheney adheres to the same philosophy; in fifty years, however, the truth will not matter. The truth matters now, if we want to impede the construction of a “Global Security State,” rein in our shadow government that is responsible for state-sponsored terrorism, and prevent them from terrorizing and killing more Americans and innocent civilians in other countries.
As in the film, pulling the American people out from under the rubble of propaganda, is no easy task, and it is a group effort, the 9/11 Truth Movement has grown over the years bringing together researchers, activists, artists, journalists, film-makers, musicians, professors, teachers, scientists, hackers, a wide range of people with varied talents and skills who have worked cooperatively to understand the truth, dismantle the lies, see through the deceptions, discover the evidence, communicate their understanding through a variety of mediums, and work together to expose the deceptions used to trick people into supporting wars, to provide the vision of a post 9/11 Truth world, where war becomes a thing of the past, and precious human and natural resources are redirected from killing and controlling people for the benefit of a few towards healing people and planet for the benefit of all.
Truth, peace, hope, and justice for a better world is a more powerful unifying force than the promise of endless war and allowing fear to dominate our lives.
We need as much courage as those who lived through the ordeal that was 9/11, the courage to live, to take responsibility of our own government, to demand accountability and to not permit it to flagrantly violate national, international and moral laws.
Dave Slesinger, http://www.911courage.org, proposed doing civil disobedience at suburban shopping malls, leafleting on forbidden corporate private space at the premiere of Oliver Stone’s film. Most people weren’t mentally, or physically prepared for arrest, but many of us agreed with the idea, and collectively worked on a website, leaflets, outreach, publicity. I was prepared to do civil disobedience, but in California the theater managers were so supportive of my work that I was given the green light to leaflet at the local theaters, and invited to table at the Grand Lake Theater where Allen Michaan posted on his marquee-
Was 9/11 AN INSIDE JOB?
911TRUTH.ORG and
GOOGLE SEARCH EXPLOSIVE TESTIMONY.
Local television channels 2 and 4 interviewed me, and others, for their nightly news broadcasts. They also were very receptive to our educational materials, and we gave them Deception Dollars, magazines, DVDs and spoke at length.
In Florida, Mia Hamel was arrested for civil disobedience which became the lead story on her local FOX news station. Dave Slesinger did civil disobedience, passing out leaflets in Maryland, but was not arrested. Many people in a number of states chose to leaflet legally, and some in stealth, inside darkened theaters.
The window of opportunity to leaflet the World Trade Center might not be open very long, if the film flops, but I’m sure there will be many other film leafleting opportunities down the road.
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Hi Carol,
We saw it yesterday and agree with many of your points - the audience was all of 6 - 10 people (although we were at a matinee) and the film was like a meat grinder emotionally, forcing you through that whole awful experience again. Interesting quote from the real McLoughlin on seeing the film -
"I thought it was very well done, very emotional," agreed McLoughlin, who lives in upstate New York. The most painful part to watch, he said, was not his own 22-hour struggle to stay alive underneath tons of debris. Instead it was "seeing what was happening with my family at the time."
I actually thought the film was very good for what it was, which was reliving the trauma and experiencing an incredible and unique rescue. I was certainly feeling the trauma after watching it. Importantly, the credit for that story has to go to Debra Hill, more than Stone . . .
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Producer of 9/11 Movie Had Her Own Tragic Story
Debra Hill provided the impetus to 'World Trade Center' but didn't live to see the finished film.
By Claudia Eller, Times Staff Writer
July 27, 2006
It was producer Debra Hill who first approached two Port Authority of New York and New Jersey police officers — Will Jimeno and Sgt. John McLoughlin — about optioning their rights after reading about their rescue in the Philadelphia Daily News. Seven months after meeting them in the summer of 2003, she was diagnosed with cancer. She died last year at 54. Jimeno, 38, said he and McLoughlin, 53, originally wanted to write a book about their experiences. But when they first met Hill, they were struck by her sincerity and gave their blessing to her project.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-fi-stoneside27jul27,1,5725017.story?track=crosspromo&coll=la-headlines-entnews&ctrack=1&cset=true
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It's unfortunate that it could not become a strong vehicle for 9/11 truth, and I expect that neither Debra Hill, the survivors, nor Stone wanted that -- they just wanted a story about a rescue. I think people give Stone too much credit (but I hope I'm wrong) given his recent quotes in interviews where he is shown buying into the story that Arab men in caves orchestrated the events. He says at one point that if only we'd gotten bin Laden in Afghanistan we never would have gone into Iraq.
But I thought the most powerful aspect of the demolition events were already there on the scene and needed no filmmaker to capture - the level of complete obliteration of these buildings. Stone *did* capture that essence, in two scenes:
1) The scene where one survivor emerges from the rubble and says,
"Where are the buildings?"
Indeed . . . they are distributed as DUST all over Manhattan. The shocking realization of the bizarre nature of the collapses comes home in that line. Who could ever imagine not only the collapses of those buildings, but the complete transformation of so much engineering and materials into micron sized power spreading out for miles.
2) The scene where a rescuer says, wondering why they only have 2 people to pull from the rubble, angry and shocked,
"Where *is* everyone?"
This line gives me chills. It really sends home the message of what happened here - the utter vaporization of over half of all those killed in the buildings. 1000 bodies were never found at all, not even DNA. This is not what happens when buildings fall down in Pakistan or India or any other THIRD WORLD COUNTRY when earthquakes collapse buildings, or bombs go off -- you do not get a virtual vaporization of all but 1% of the occupants. What this says, implicitly if you buy the official story, is that Western engineers have been designing buildings to vaporize all occupants in the event of a collapse, for generation upon generation . . . by accident. Thus, you have a far greater chance of survival if a tall building falls or is blown up in Japan, Pakistan or Jakarta than you do in the US -- because no such events have ever occurred in the history of engineering in which buildings fall through the path of most resistance and then turn to dust, except in the country where the engineers are able to put a shuttle into space every few months . . .
Jakarta bomb -- no transformation into dust, no obliteration of 1000 bodies -
Bomb wrecks top Jakarta hotel
A bomb explosion has killed at least 13 people and injured more than 100 at the luxury Marriott Hotel in the Indonesian capital, Jakarta. The blast severely damaged five floors of the American-run hotel, shattering glass and damaging cars parked outside.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3124919.stm
Pakistan earthquake towers collapse, but twice as many people are rescued as in WTC -
One of two residential towers (Margalla Towers in F-10 sector, Islamabad), believed to contain up to sixty apartments each, collapsed in the earthquake in Islamabad. Pakistani government officials at the site stated the number of people affected by the collapse was in the hundreds, most of whom are feared dead. Efforts by rescue workers are ongoing. Over fifty-two people were rescued from the collapsed residential "Margalla Towers"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Kashmir_earthquake#Damage
Etc.
I can keep pulling out example after example, but what this says is that if you are in a tall building in the US that has a bomb go off or a plane hit it, you are likely to be turned to dust in a collapse event, whereas if you are in an apartment tower in Islamabad, you have twice as much chance of survival.
If you believe the official version, you have to accept the idea that:
WESTERN ENGINEERS 'MISTAKENLY' HAVE BEEN DESIGNING HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS TO DESTROY THEMSELVES AND ALL OCCUPANTS IN THE MOST DESTRUCTIVE MEANS POSSIBLE, SO THAT THE BUILDINGS 'COLLAPSE' VIA A PATH OF MOST RESISTANCE (straight downward through a solid steel structure) BEYOND IMAGINATION (turning the majority of all contents into micron sized dust particles) FOR DECADES . . . A LEVEL OF DESTRUCTION EVEN BEYOND THE BUILDINGS OF ALL THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES WITH NO BUILDING CODES AND NO EARTHQUAKE DESIGNS.
The argument the official story people try to use is that the WTC towers were somehow 'unique' in their construction -- they were not! I have a degree in arch and the design was not radically different than typical highrise designs. If buildings really 'collapse' this way, then all high-rises in the US should be being massively retrofit at this moment and workers should be bringing class-action lawsuits against building owners who do not retrofit this supposed 'defect' of the design, in the event of a catastrophe like a bomb.
Also see:
The 9-11 Research companion to the film World Trade Center
by Jim Hoffman
http://www.911research.wtc7.net/reviews/world_trade_center/index.html
We saw it yesterday and agree with many of your points - the audience was all of 6 - 10 people (although we were at a matinee) and the film was like a meat grinder emotionally, forcing you through that whole awful experience again. Interesting quote from the real McLoughlin on seeing the film -
"I thought it was very well done, very emotional," agreed McLoughlin, who lives in upstate New York. The most painful part to watch, he said, was not his own 22-hour struggle to stay alive underneath tons of debris. Instead it was "seeing what was happening with my family at the time."
I actually thought the film was very good for what it was, which was reliving the trauma and experiencing an incredible and unique rescue. I was certainly feeling the trauma after watching it. Importantly, the credit for that story has to go to Debra Hill, more than Stone . . .
--------------------------------------------------------
Producer of 9/11 Movie Had Her Own Tragic Story
Debra Hill provided the impetus to 'World Trade Center' but didn't live to see the finished film.
By Claudia Eller, Times Staff Writer
July 27, 2006
It was producer Debra Hill who first approached two Port Authority of New York and New Jersey police officers — Will Jimeno and Sgt. John McLoughlin — about optioning their rights after reading about their rescue in the Philadelphia Daily News. Seven months after meeting them in the summer of 2003, she was diagnosed with cancer. She died last year at 54. Jimeno, 38, said he and McLoughlin, 53, originally wanted to write a book about their experiences. But when they first met Hill, they were struck by her sincerity and gave their blessing to her project.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-fi-stoneside27jul27,1,5725017.story?track=crosspromo&coll=la-headlines-entnews&ctrack=1&cset=true
--------------------------------------------------------
It's unfortunate that it could not become a strong vehicle for 9/11 truth, and I expect that neither Debra Hill, the survivors, nor Stone wanted that -- they just wanted a story about a rescue. I think people give Stone too much credit (but I hope I'm wrong) given his recent quotes in interviews where he is shown buying into the story that Arab men in caves orchestrated the events. He says at one point that if only we'd gotten bin Laden in Afghanistan we never would have gone into Iraq.
But I thought the most powerful aspect of the demolition events were already there on the scene and needed no filmmaker to capture - the level of complete obliteration of these buildings. Stone *did* capture that essence, in two scenes:
1) The scene where one survivor emerges from the rubble and says,
"Where are the buildings?"
Indeed . . . they are distributed as DUST all over Manhattan. The shocking realization of the bizarre nature of the collapses comes home in that line. Who could ever imagine not only the collapses of those buildings, but the complete transformation of so much engineering and materials into micron sized power spreading out for miles.
2) The scene where a rescuer says, wondering why they only have 2 people to pull from the rubble, angry and shocked,
"Where *is* everyone?"
This line gives me chills. It really sends home the message of what happened here - the utter vaporization of over half of all those killed in the buildings. 1000 bodies were never found at all, not even DNA. This is not what happens when buildings fall down in Pakistan or India or any other THIRD WORLD COUNTRY when earthquakes collapse buildings, or bombs go off -- you do not get a virtual vaporization of all but 1% of the occupants. What this says, implicitly if you buy the official story, is that Western engineers have been designing buildings to vaporize all occupants in the event of a collapse, for generation upon generation . . . by accident. Thus, you have a far greater chance of survival if a tall building falls or is blown up in Japan, Pakistan or Jakarta than you do in the US -- because no such events have ever occurred in the history of engineering in which buildings fall through the path of most resistance and then turn to dust, except in the country where the engineers are able to put a shuttle into space every few months . . .
Jakarta bomb -- no transformation into dust, no obliteration of 1000 bodies -
Bomb wrecks top Jakarta hotel
A bomb explosion has killed at least 13 people and injured more than 100 at the luxury Marriott Hotel in the Indonesian capital, Jakarta. The blast severely damaged five floors of the American-run hotel, shattering glass and damaging cars parked outside.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3124919.stm
Pakistan earthquake towers collapse, but twice as many people are rescued as in WTC -
One of two residential towers (Margalla Towers in F-10 sector, Islamabad), believed to contain up to sixty apartments each, collapsed in the earthquake in Islamabad. Pakistani government officials at the site stated the number of people affected by the collapse was in the hundreds, most of whom are feared dead. Efforts by rescue workers are ongoing. Over fifty-two people were rescued from the collapsed residential "Margalla Towers"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Kashmir_earthquake#Damage
Etc.
I can keep pulling out example after example, but what this says is that if you are in a tall building in the US that has a bomb go off or a plane hit it, you are likely to be turned to dust in a collapse event, whereas if you are in an apartment tower in Islamabad, you have twice as much chance of survival.
If you believe the official version, you have to accept the idea that:
WESTERN ENGINEERS 'MISTAKENLY' HAVE BEEN DESIGNING HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS TO DESTROY THEMSELVES AND ALL OCCUPANTS IN THE MOST DESTRUCTIVE MEANS POSSIBLE, SO THAT THE BUILDINGS 'COLLAPSE' VIA A PATH OF MOST RESISTANCE (straight downward through a solid steel structure) BEYOND IMAGINATION (turning the majority of all contents into micron sized dust particles) FOR DECADES . . . A LEVEL OF DESTRUCTION EVEN BEYOND THE BUILDINGS OF ALL THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES WITH NO BUILDING CODES AND NO EARTHQUAKE DESIGNS.
The argument the official story people try to use is that the WTC towers were somehow 'unique' in their construction -- they were not! I have a degree in arch and the design was not radically different than typical highrise designs. If buildings really 'collapse' this way, then all high-rises in the US should be being massively retrofit at this moment and workers should be bringing class-action lawsuits against building owners who do not retrofit this supposed 'defect' of the design, in the event of a catastrophe like a bomb.
Also see:
The 9-11 Research companion to the film World Trade Center
by Jim Hoffman
http://www.911research.wtc7.net/reviews/world_trade_center/index.html
For more information:
http://www.911research.wtc7.net/reviews/wo...
As Orwell said, lies of omission are the worst.
Carol Brouillet, a self-proclaimed 911 truth advocate, is running for Congress, yet SHE, same as every Bush-boot-licking Republican, REFUSES TO QUESTION BUSH about Bush's repeated, incriminating, self-implicating 9/11 witness statements!!!
We The People need to JUST SAY NO to "politicians" who refuse to question Bush about 9/11 !!! (Especially those who CLAIM to be pro-truth regarding 9/11... such as lying Carol Brouillet and lying Bob Bowman... The 9-11 Commission pretended that Bush never made the well-documented statements. So do Democrats. Anyone can SAY they're anti-Bush-treason and pro-911-truth, but actions speak louder than words...)
DEMAND THAT CAROL BROUILLET -- and all other candidates -- TAKE THE PLEDGE TO QUESTION BUSH, and stop pretending that they don't know about Bush's loose-lips-sink-ships 9/11 witness statements.
FMI see FAKE U.S. POLITICAL OPPOSITION THROUGH THE AGES
Carol Brouillet, a self-proclaimed 911 truth advocate, is running for Congress, yet SHE, same as every Bush-boot-licking Republican, REFUSES TO QUESTION BUSH about Bush's repeated, incriminating, self-implicating 9/11 witness statements!!!
We The People need to JUST SAY NO to "politicians" who refuse to question Bush about 9/11 !!! (Especially those who CLAIM to be pro-truth regarding 9/11... such as lying Carol Brouillet and lying Bob Bowman... The 9-11 Commission pretended that Bush never made the well-documented statements. So do Democrats. Anyone can SAY they're anti-Bush-treason and pro-911-truth, but actions speak louder than words...)
DEMAND THAT CAROL BROUILLET -- and all other candidates -- TAKE THE PLEDGE TO QUESTION BUSH, and stop pretending that they don't know about Bush's loose-lips-sink-ships 9/11 witness statements.
FMI see FAKE U.S. POLITICAL OPPOSITION THROUGH THE AGES
It is flattering to be so vehemently attacked by a complete stranger- I guess someone doesn't appreciate my efforts of the past 5 years. CNN has also omitted me as a candidate in the District that I am running in- which is rather extreme- considering that I am going to be on the November ballot- and I've been so bust doing my organizing and activism that I haven't done any campaigning yet- not even buttons, bumpers stickers or handouts. My bio is on my website at http://www.communitycurrency.org. I may be disorganized and my judgement may not be perfect, but I am honest and have been doing the best that I have been able to do to champion truth, peace, justice since 1992.
Carol Brouillet http://www.communitycurrency.org
Carol Brouillet http://www.communitycurrency.org
For more information:
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Carol,
You ducked the issue, and tried to flatter yourself by claiming that you'd been vehemently attacked when, in fact, you just can't stand the heat for a failure you share with the corrupt establishment you claim to oppose -- a failure to recognize that Bush has never been questioned about his government-911-lie-revealing statements. This is part of a generations-old failure to question generations of Bushes about their treasonous behaviors as bad things have happened to the USA. This failure is also a behavior which is inconsistent with that of a real, live, honest 911 truth advocate, which you claim to be.
Now that doesn't necessarily mean that you are part of generations-old conspiracy or anything like that, it just means that you are not part of the solution, which makes you part of the problem.
And all you had to do, instead of ducking the question, was say, "How silly of me to have overlooked that important plank in my platform; I'll add it right away; it's inexcusable that Bush has never been made to answer for his statements, and I promise to keep raising the issue until we finally get a satisfactory answer from Bush. Thank you."
So, Carol, since you've worked so hard for so long already, supposedly for full disclosure about all the ugly truths about 9/11, why not finally stop your lie of omission, and make questioning Bush about his revealing 911 witness statements a prominent part of your campaign, and do some real good, and raise people's awareness of Bush's treasonous statements, and the fact that he's never been questioned about them?
Or is it part of your real agenda to help keep people unaware of Bush's revealing statements? (There's a lot of that going around -- especially among the many wolves in sheepdog's clothing masquerading as 911 'truth' movement leaders who either ignore Bush's statements or else dishonestly distort them in an attempt to get people to disregard them...)
You ducked the issue, and tried to flatter yourself by claiming that you'd been vehemently attacked when, in fact, you just can't stand the heat for a failure you share with the corrupt establishment you claim to oppose -- a failure to recognize that Bush has never been questioned about his government-911-lie-revealing statements. This is part of a generations-old failure to question generations of Bushes about their treasonous behaviors as bad things have happened to the USA. This failure is also a behavior which is inconsistent with that of a real, live, honest 911 truth advocate, which you claim to be.
Now that doesn't necessarily mean that you are part of generations-old conspiracy or anything like that, it just means that you are not part of the solution, which makes you part of the problem.
And all you had to do, instead of ducking the question, was say, "How silly of me to have overlooked that important plank in my platform; I'll add it right away; it's inexcusable that Bush has never been made to answer for his statements, and I promise to keep raising the issue until we finally get a satisfactory answer from Bush. Thank you."
So, Carol, since you've worked so hard for so long already, supposedly for full disclosure about all the ugly truths about 9/11, why not finally stop your lie of omission, and make questioning Bush about his revealing 911 witness statements a prominent part of your campaign, and do some real good, and raise people's awareness of Bush's treasonous statements, and the fact that he's never been questioned about them?
Or is it part of your real agenda to help keep people unaware of Bush's revealing statements? (There's a lot of that going around -- especially among the many wolves in sheepdog's clothing masquerading as 911 'truth' movement leaders who either ignore Bush's statements or else dishonestly distort them in an attempt to get people to disregard them...)
For more information:
http://real.911.truthers.question.Bush
Carol, I noticed one of the links on that post goes to '911 Blimp,' who pretty much attacks everyone and harasses people on blogger threads. I would just ignore him.
We all know what harassement is about in a movement trying to expose truth.
I recommend a new page, also -
http://www.oilempire.us/no-plane-timeline.html
We all know what harassement is about in a movement trying to expose truth.
I recommend a new page, also -
http://www.oilempire.us/no-plane-timeline.html
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