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An apology to the editors of this site

by no heroes save ourselves
As you may have noticed, I've been commenting here a great deal lately. While my intentions were to assist in turning down the heat in the comments area, I'm also concerned that if I continue, I'm going to become part of the information clog on this part of the site. As such, I'm bowing out, and please accept my apologies if my attempts have made your work more difficult, rather than less. As I said on another thread, throw cold water on me if I step in again.
To the editors:

As you may have noticed, I've been commenting here a great deal lately. While my intentions were to assist in turning down the heat in the comments area, I'm also concerned that if I continue, I'm going to become part of the information clog on this part of the site. As such, I'm bowing out, and please accept my apologies if my attempts have made your work more difficult, rather than less. As I said on another thread, throw cold water on me if I step in again.

That being said, something more needs to be done about the amount of trolling (including trolling by members of other IMCs) on this site. Maybe I'm making too big a deal of this, but at least in my view, it seriously detracts from the work you're doing, and makes the site read more like Usenet than what it's intentions are. Unfortunately, I don't know what the solution to this is -- I proposed a commenter-driven flagging system but for some reason, the people who are some of the biggest trolls on this site didn't seem to want that. Of course, people can always ignore the comments, but that doesn't seem very realistic -- the comments are part of the content, and believe it or not, there is useful information in them sometimes that enhances the story. Note to the people that seem to live here, spam here, troll here month after month: I said *sometimes.* Rest assured that I'm not talking about you when I say this.

In any case, thanks again for doing one of the more thankless jobs in radical alternative media. Y'all rock.

Over and out,

no heroes save ourselves
by a volunteer
The comments are mainly visible if you interact with the site via the latest comments page since they are not even on the same page as the posts for local & global stories. People interacting with the site via the latest comments page will not only see more comments but have been talking between threads in a way that would not be possible without such a page. The site is currently being redesigned to have regional pages and its possible that one portion of the change will include topic/region specific latest comments pages with no main latest comments page for the whole site. Perhaps with such a redesign, flamewars can at least stay on topic and there will be less risk of them spilling over into unrelated posts. The regional pages will also pull in more editors and that could help in terms of having more editors to keep discussions civil and prevent the trolling.
by no heroes save ourselves
>Perhaps with such a redesign, flamewars can at least stay on topic and there will be less risk of them spilling over into unrelated posts. The regional pages will also pull in more editors and that could help in terms of having more editors to keep discussions civil and prevent the trolling.<

Sounds good to me. Good luck with it, hope it achieves what you're looking for.
by thoughts
don't give up

just pace yourself more

you don't have to refute or temper every discussion you are compelled to

sometimes just take a breather and come back later

I've enjoyed your thoughtful comments and hope for more, if not as many
by no heroes save ourselves
>don't give up

just pace yourself more <

yes, perhaps. my biggest concern is that i'm actually of use. thanks for your encouragement, though -- i'll take it to heart.
by no heroes save ourselves
trying this pacing thing, let's see how it goes. <g>

thanks again for your suggestions...sometimes it's just a matter of taking a breath...
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