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Ward Churchill spoke at the annual anarchist bookfair on March 26, 2005 in golden gate park, San Francisco. He has no relation to Frank Chiu in the picture, who had the 12 Galaxies bar in the Mission Dist named after him, and is a common halloween costume.
There was a lot of noise to the side where many happy attendees were mingling, and there were areas with hippies, hip hop, punk, circus gypsies playing accordions and violins and doing tricks, plus people selling items - so this is audible if you turn the sound up, and most audible at the end.
A longer full speech given later will be in the first comment to this story.
There was a lot of noise to the side where many happy attendees were mingling, and there were areas with hippies, hip hop, punk, circus gypsies playing accordions and violins and doing tricks, plus people selling items - so this is audible if you turn the sound up, and most audible at the end.
A longer full speech given later will be in the first comment to this story.
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In this recording, a man from a Sierra foothills radio station interviewed him for a show, and I was in the vicinity so I made a voice recording of this interview. Unfortunately, a 4 minute chunk of this mysteriously ended up garbled after the first two minutes when I accidentally pressed record later on when it was in my pocket. He covers Churchill's latest situation at the university, where he seems to say that he is not interested in a buyout agreement, and will not apologize for anything, and that he has solid support among academics and also many indians. Churchill also admits to shooting JFK in Dallas.
At the end, I was able to ask a question I had been interested in regarding criticism of his footnote in an essay on another topic which appeared to back up his claim that the U.S. gov't intentionally wished the Mandan tribe of North Dakota to catch and spread deadly smallpox.
I interpret a piece by Diane Pearson as demonstrating this fact, citing primary sources such as memos and papers by Bureau of Indian affairs or Dept. of War heads which stated that the Mandan tribe were not to receive a smallpox vaccine which had been scheduled to be given to other east coast tribes who they viewed as cooperative, such as the Creeks and Cherokees who were removed to Oklahoma a few years later. The Mandan were viewed as an aggressive tribe which would not sign over their land for fur trapping and agriculture.
So what I was asking, was why Churchill cited John Thornton who didn't write about this aspect of history and instead talked about the general dates of events and number of people present . Churchill is under investigation by the university of Colorado for this footnote, and the media is spinning this by saying that the idea of smallpox blankets was an invention, and there have been stories getting the whole concept wrong - such as saying that Ward Churchill was referring to mexicans, and not mandans, and Ann Coulter claimed here that people only understood vaccines in the 1900s and later, which is incorrect - people have been inoculating against smallpox since centuries which is why indians died in high numbers while the people in east coast cities were not dying in high numbers. In a second column, Coulter was using slurs such as "injun" and said "hey kemosabe, time to pack up the teepee and hit the trail of tears".
That's just a quick explanation of why this question was asked at the end.
At the end, I was able to ask a question I had been interested in regarding criticism of his footnote in an essay on another topic which appeared to back up his claim that the U.S. gov't intentionally wished the Mandan tribe of North Dakota to catch and spread deadly smallpox.
I interpret a piece by Diane Pearson as demonstrating this fact, citing primary sources such as memos and papers by Bureau of Indian affairs or Dept. of War heads which stated that the Mandan tribe were not to receive a smallpox vaccine which had been scheduled to be given to other east coast tribes who they viewed as cooperative, such as the Creeks and Cherokees who were removed to Oklahoma a few years later. The Mandan were viewed as an aggressive tribe which would not sign over their land for fur trapping and agriculture.
So what I was asking, was why Churchill cited John Thornton who didn't write about this aspect of history and instead talked about the general dates of events and number of people present . Churchill is under investigation by the university of Colorado for this footnote, and the media is spinning this by saying that the idea of smallpox blankets was an invention, and there have been stories getting the whole concept wrong - such as saying that Ward Churchill was referring to mexicans, and not mandans, and Ann Coulter claimed here that people only understood vaccines in the 1900s and later, which is incorrect - people have been inoculating against smallpox since centuries which is why indians died in high numbers while the people in east coast cities were not dying in high numbers. In a second column, Coulter was using slurs such as "injun" and said "hey kemosabe, time to pack up the teepee and hit the trail of tears".
That's just a quick explanation of why this question was asked at the end.
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It is amazing anyone would listen to a profoundly stupid idiot like Ward Churchill. Apparently, his followers, like Ward Churchill, did not ask the obvious question when they watched the 9/11 Reichstag Fire on TV:
WHERE WAS OUR EXCELLENT AIR DEFENSE WHICH COULD HAVE STOPPED THE FIRST PLANE CRASH?
Since there was no air defense, either the president, vice-president or secretary of war told them to stand down, proving this was an inside job. The president's idiot face while sitting in his brother's fiefdom of Florida, reading a goat story, should certainly have been a tip-off that this was an inside job. We now have videos and eyewitness statements proving beyond all doubt that this was a Reichstag Fire, perpetrated for the same reasons the Nazis burned their government building, the Reichstag: To promote fascism at home and war abroad so as to maximize the profits of the capitalist class.
Churchill should keep his job until he is eligible for a pension, and he should then retire.
As to the racism that exists toward Native Americans, that is nothing new, unfortunately, and will not change so long as we have capitalism.
Meanwhile, everyone should do their homework. We know now, having read Michael Ruppert's Crossing the Rubicon, that
--Dick Cheney directed the 9/11 Mass Murder;
--that 9 of the so-called hijackers are alive;
--that the planes were on automatic pilot guided by the US military; that the Twin Towers and Building 7, which was not hit by a plane, were brought down by construction explosives not only because we have eyewitness accounts and videos, but because the chief lessor of Building 7, Larry Silverstein, stated on PBS that Building 7 was brought down by construction explosives;
--that the Towers were shut down the weekend before supposedly to be rewired for computer upgrades;
--that the Towers and Building 7 were brought down in seconds, with no resistance, with explosions occurring outward, with a base that was searing hot; and with the building broken into neat pieces that could easily be carted away on a truck immediately, which they were, thus removing the evidence;
-- that the Pentagon was damaged by construction explosives and
--that the plane that flew over Pennesylvania was shot down by the US military.
You should also read David Ray Griffin's 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions.
The US government had the motive, means and opportunity. No workingclass people's organization has the motive, means or opportunity to perpetrate such a heinous crime. This was the CIA's Operation Northwoods realized, a 1962 plan of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to destroy a US airplane and blame Cuba so as to have an excuse to invade Cuba.
This is typical of CIA actions all around the world. It was also the CIA who murdered JFK. See Mark Lane's "Plausible Denial." If Ward Churchill says he murdered JFK, then he must be part of the CIA. If not, he is a babbling idiot. In either case, he should be avoided.
The 9/11/01 Inside Job was a Reichstag Fire, when the Nazis burned down their government building, the Reichstag, and blamed the communists. One communist, George Dimitrov, was acquitted of the charge of burning the Reichstag by putting the Nazis on the stand and proving to the world that they did it.
As to Karl Adolph Eichmann, he certainly was a murderer of Jews, contrary to Ward Churchill's statement that all he did was coordinate transportation at his speech at the Women's Building on March 25, broadcast on KPFA news at 6 p.m. on March 26. The following should make that clear:
Quoting from the benchmark must-read book by William Shirer, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich:
"The lucractive trade in human freedom was handled by a special organization set up under the SS by Heydrich, the 'Office for Jewish Emigration' which became the sole Nazi agency authorized to issue permits to leave the country. Administered from the beginning to the end by an Austrian Nazi, a native of Hitler's home town of Linz by the name of Karl Adolf Eichmann, it was to become eventually an agency not of emigration but of extermination and to organize the slaughter of more than four million persons, mostly Jews."
Another benchmark must read book, The Destruction of The European Jews" by Raul Hilberg, state "...in these foreign areas the Eichmann machinery concerned itself with the entire uprooting phase of the deportations, including the initiation of anti-Jewish laws, the various definitions and categorizations of the Jewish victims, and the time and procurement of transportation."
One means of transportation was via trucks/vans which filled with gas, murdering the Jews inside.
Rather than following this idiot around, how about doing some labor organizing? That is the only way any change can occur.
WHERE WAS OUR EXCELLENT AIR DEFENSE WHICH COULD HAVE STOPPED THE FIRST PLANE CRASH?
Since there was no air defense, either the president, vice-president or secretary of war told them to stand down, proving this was an inside job. The president's idiot face while sitting in his brother's fiefdom of Florida, reading a goat story, should certainly have been a tip-off that this was an inside job. We now have videos and eyewitness statements proving beyond all doubt that this was a Reichstag Fire, perpetrated for the same reasons the Nazis burned their government building, the Reichstag: To promote fascism at home and war abroad so as to maximize the profits of the capitalist class.
Churchill should keep his job until he is eligible for a pension, and he should then retire.
As to the racism that exists toward Native Americans, that is nothing new, unfortunately, and will not change so long as we have capitalism.
Meanwhile, everyone should do their homework. We know now, having read Michael Ruppert's Crossing the Rubicon, that
--Dick Cheney directed the 9/11 Mass Murder;
--that 9 of the so-called hijackers are alive;
--that the planes were on automatic pilot guided by the US military; that the Twin Towers and Building 7, which was not hit by a plane, were brought down by construction explosives not only because we have eyewitness accounts and videos, but because the chief lessor of Building 7, Larry Silverstein, stated on PBS that Building 7 was brought down by construction explosives;
--that the Towers were shut down the weekend before supposedly to be rewired for computer upgrades;
--that the Towers and Building 7 were brought down in seconds, with no resistance, with explosions occurring outward, with a base that was searing hot; and with the building broken into neat pieces that could easily be carted away on a truck immediately, which they were, thus removing the evidence;
-- that the Pentagon was damaged by construction explosives and
--that the plane that flew over Pennesylvania was shot down by the US military.
You should also read David Ray Griffin's 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions.
The US government had the motive, means and opportunity. No workingclass people's organization has the motive, means or opportunity to perpetrate such a heinous crime. This was the CIA's Operation Northwoods realized, a 1962 plan of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to destroy a US airplane and blame Cuba so as to have an excuse to invade Cuba.
This is typical of CIA actions all around the world. It was also the CIA who murdered JFK. See Mark Lane's "Plausible Denial." If Ward Churchill says he murdered JFK, then he must be part of the CIA. If not, he is a babbling idiot. In either case, he should be avoided.
The 9/11/01 Inside Job was a Reichstag Fire, when the Nazis burned down their government building, the Reichstag, and blamed the communists. One communist, George Dimitrov, was acquitted of the charge of burning the Reichstag by putting the Nazis on the stand and proving to the world that they did it.
As to Karl Adolph Eichmann, he certainly was a murderer of Jews, contrary to Ward Churchill's statement that all he did was coordinate transportation at his speech at the Women's Building on March 25, broadcast on KPFA news at 6 p.m. on March 26. The following should make that clear:
Quoting from the benchmark must-read book by William Shirer, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich:
"The lucractive trade in human freedom was handled by a special organization set up under the SS by Heydrich, the 'Office for Jewish Emigration' which became the sole Nazi agency authorized to issue permits to leave the country. Administered from the beginning to the end by an Austrian Nazi, a native of Hitler's home town of Linz by the name of Karl Adolf Eichmann, it was to become eventually an agency not of emigration but of extermination and to organize the slaughter of more than four million persons, mostly Jews."
Another benchmark must read book, The Destruction of The European Jews" by Raul Hilberg, state "...in these foreign areas the Eichmann machinery concerned itself with the entire uprooting phase of the deportations, including the initiation of anti-Jewish laws, the various definitions and categorizations of the Jewish victims, and the time and procurement of transportation."
One means of transportation was via trucks/vans which filled with gas, murdering the Jews inside.
Rather than following this idiot around, how about doing some labor organizing? That is the only way any change can occur.
""As to Karl Adolph Eichmann, he certainly was a murderer of Jews, contrary to Ward Churchill's statement that all he did was coordinate transportation at his speech at the Women's Building on March 25, broadcast on KPFA news at 6 p.m. on March 26. The following should make that clear:
Quoting from the benchmark must-read book by William Shirer, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich:
"The lucractive trade in human freedom was handled by a special organization set up under the SS by Heydrich, the 'Office for Jewish Emigration' which became the sole Nazi agency authorized to issue permits to leave the country. Administered from the beginning to the end by an Austrian Nazi, a native of Hitler's home town of Linz by the name of Karl Adolf Eichmann, it was to become eventually an agency not of emigration but of extermination and to organize the slaughter of more than four million persons, mostly Jews."""
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Maybe I'm not following you here. Please explain a bit more about that book and how it says Eichmann killed nazi victims. It seems like Ward clarified himself several times with what he meant about Eichmann. He said Eichmann was an administrator (as stated in the paragraph above) who never directly pulled a trigger or moved a switch to kill political/ethnic/gay state enemies. Rather, he spent his day arranging the finance, specific plans, and timing which permitted foot soldiers to do these things. He then expanded on the topic by saying that 'little Eichmanns' are people who also do administrative and technical work which facilitates armies and gunmen in other locations to kill people. In Germany, this would be the people who provided money for the nazi party such as companies which expected to profit, or ran ammunition plants, drove trains, etc. Then he said that the modern day equivalent would be people, for instance, providing finance in the stock market for companies known to cause many deaths overseas - for instance, he could pick Unocal oil in Burma where the authoritarian regime uses their money to pay for an army which demands slave labor out of peasants and has shot thousands of opposition. A similar scenario takes place with Shell Oil in the Nigerian delta, and something similar in Ecuador, Columbia and the like. A finance agent for the company located in another country could easily say "I've never killed anyone - it's that army overseas, and we can't prevent what they're doing over there locally. my hands are clean, and I'm a good person". Even though - people wouldn't be being killed in Nigeria if the oil company weren't paying for the corruption of the gov't there.
Quoting from the benchmark must-read book by William Shirer, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich:
"The lucractive trade in human freedom was handled by a special organization set up under the SS by Heydrich, the 'Office for Jewish Emigration' which became the sole Nazi agency authorized to issue permits to leave the country. Administered from the beginning to the end by an Austrian Nazi, a native of Hitler's home town of Linz by the name of Karl Adolf Eichmann, it was to become eventually an agency not of emigration but of extermination and to organize the slaughter of more than four million persons, mostly Jews."""
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Maybe I'm not following you here. Please explain a bit more about that book and how it says Eichmann killed nazi victims. It seems like Ward clarified himself several times with what he meant about Eichmann. He said Eichmann was an administrator (as stated in the paragraph above) who never directly pulled a trigger or moved a switch to kill political/ethnic/gay state enemies. Rather, he spent his day arranging the finance, specific plans, and timing which permitted foot soldiers to do these things. He then expanded on the topic by saying that 'little Eichmanns' are people who also do administrative and technical work which facilitates armies and gunmen in other locations to kill people. In Germany, this would be the people who provided money for the nazi party such as companies which expected to profit, or ran ammunition plants, drove trains, etc. Then he said that the modern day equivalent would be people, for instance, providing finance in the stock market for companies known to cause many deaths overseas - for instance, he could pick Unocal oil in Burma where the authoritarian regime uses their money to pay for an army which demands slave labor out of peasants and has shot thousands of opposition. A similar scenario takes place with Shell Oil in the Nigerian delta, and something similar in Ecuador, Columbia and the like. A finance agent for the company located in another country could easily say "I've never killed anyone - it's that army overseas, and we can't prevent what they're doing over there locally. my hands are clean, and I'm a good person". Even though - people wouldn't be being killed in Nigeria if the oil company weren't paying for the corruption of the gov't there.
my take is that the us guvmint knew that something was going down and failed to intervene, seeing that the potential upside was well worth the short term damage.
i mean, if the military hq of the most wired and armed nation state on the planet can be attacked at will using box cutters, then odds are they declined to defend it.
churchill is correct when he says that we are all complicit unless we are actively part of the solution. even then we are legitimate targets as we directly benefit from the regime that is predicated on sustained, racist global genocide.
as churchill mentioned, the us is now doing exactly what it did in wwii to german and japanese civilians. the nuremberg trials only prosecuted crimes that the axis committed but the allies did not--what we say goes.
the nuremberg principles don't contemplate that notion and as a signatory to it we are allegedly bound to it whether the state agrees or not.
i mean, if the military hq of the most wired and armed nation state on the planet can be attacked at will using box cutters, then odds are they declined to defend it.
churchill is correct when he says that we are all complicit unless we are actively part of the solution. even then we are legitimate targets as we directly benefit from the regime that is predicated on sustained, racist global genocide.
as churchill mentioned, the us is now doing exactly what it did in wwii to german and japanese civilians. the nuremberg trials only prosecuted crimes that the axis committed but the allies did not--what we say goes.
the nuremberg principles don't contemplate that notion and as a signatory to it we are allegedly bound to it whether the state agrees or not.
What is true now folks? Is the cdn. peoples anti-fascist fighters really going to dismantle the war machine and go home rest assured that the first shift there is put on strike and thusly all armament manufacturies are closed and never re-opened. Thus the worlds peoples commenced to dance and sing for threes months in every country and happiness abounded in the world as all the technology was put to solidarity with the remaining livability. Is that what will happen great spirit of the creator? A mighty new spring is comming upon us we must have a vision quest and look to the four directions, mindfull that the air is no longer buoyant and full of life as the ancesters knew, but dirty and lifeless, 34% less oxygen replaced by carbon dioxide which does not sustain the once mighty species limiting our vision and crippling and exhausting our very life signs. Verily the saviour points a way, re-tool the life tree with the power of the wind, tides, and sunshine(solar energy) which transforms to electricity. That way the sundance trees, ceremonies, and live forests can replentish oxygen and the atmoshere will be saved. Thusly the vision questers walked down the mount reassure that life will be re-newed and that the ancesters were correct.. The great spirit of the creator has organized our return. The medicine way was upheld. Bring to fruition the mothers of unity, and activate natures fifty-fifty law of the species balance and harmoney, gone since the conquest. Arise and join the spring planting and growing for this calendar year and see for yourself the workings of the great creator and its power to give life... organic communes not prisons. ho-ka-hay-- It is a good day to live.
Socialist, the Reichstag fire was started by a Dutch council communist. It was not started by the Nazis. Seriously dude, you need to read a bit more history. Next time try a book written by a real historian instead of those leftist rags.
It's a matter of controversy. The dutchman Marinus van der Lubbe had it pinned on him and was executed by the National socialist government, however, it's not nearly so simple. Walther Hofer wrote a book analyzing the evidence and information available and his work largely implicates the SS under the Nazis as having set the fire. I don't know why you'd expect a fair trial and reporting of the incident in germany of 1933. Plus, the most important part was what the nazi government did during the following week. They suspended civil liberties and Hindenburg was put out of the government. Dutch communists had nothing to benefit from the fire, while Hitler's government had everything to gain.
For those of you who have no memory of the 1961 trial of Adolf Eichmann, which this writer and certainly Ward Churchill are old enough to remember, being the First Generation After The Holocaust and World War 2, as it was broadcast daily on radio and TV and in the daily newspapers, you can search the Internet to learn of Eichmann's role in the Holocaust, the deliberate murder with malice aforethought of 6 million of the 9 million Jews of Europe, the center of world Jewish population at that time.
From the Nizkor Project website at:
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/e/eichmann-adolf/
"It was Eichmann who organized the Wannsee Conference of January 1942, which focused on issues related to the "final solution of the Jewish question." From this point Eichmann assumed the leading role in the deportation of European Jews to the death camps, as well as in the plunder of their property."
For those of you who can stand it, the entire trial transcript is now online at:
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/e/eichmann-adolf/transcripts/
From the History Place website at
http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/biographies/eichmann.htm:
"In brief - Karl Adolf Eichmann (1906-1962) headed Gestapo Department IV B4 for Jewish Affairs, serving as a self proclaimed 'Jewish specialist' and was the man responsible for keeping the trains rolling from all over Europe to death camps during the Final Solution"
"In 1939 Eichmann returned to Berlin where he was appointed the head of Gestapo Section IV B4 of the new Reich Main Security Office (RSHA). He was now responsible for implementation of Nazi policy toward the Jews in Germany and all occupied territories (eventually totaling 16 countries). Eichmann thus became ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL MEN in the Third Reich and would remain head of IV B4 for the remainder of the Reich. " (Emphasis added.)
"Under the supervision of Eichmann, SS Einsatz groups in occupied areas of the Soviet Union now turned their full attention to the mass murder of Jews. Einsatz leaders kept highly detailed, daily records. Competitions even arose among the four main groups as to who posted the highest numbers. In the first year of the Nazi occupation of Soviet territory, over 300,000 Jews were murdered."
"Mobile gas-vans were used at first. These trucks had sealed rear compartments into which the engine fumes were fed, causing death via carbon monoxide."
"In January 1942 Eichmann helped Heydrich organize the Wannsee Conference in Berlin during which Heydrich and Eichmann along with 15 Nazi bureaucrats planned the extermination of the entire Jewish population of Europe and the Soviet Union, estimated at 11 million persons." [The Soviet Union was partly in Europe and partly in Asia.]
"Obersturmbannführer (Lt. Col.) Eichmann's sole purpose now became issues related to the Final Solution. He assumed the leading role in coordinating the deportation of Jews from every corner of Europe to existing ghettos in occupied Poland and to newly constructed gas chambers at places such as Sobibor, Chelmno, Treblinka and Auschwitz-Birkenau. At Birkenau the gas chamber disguised as a shower room could accommodate 2000 persons at a time."
"Eichmann took a keen interest in Auschwitz from its founding and visited there on numerous occasions. He helped Höss select the site for the gas chambers, approved the use of Zyklon-B, and witnessed the extermination process."
In March of 1944 Germany occupied its former satellite Hungary which had the last big Jewish population (725,000) in Europe. On that same day, Eichmann arrived with Gestapo "Special Section Commandos."
"By mid May, deportations of Jews from Hungary to Auschwitz began. Eichmann then travelled to Auschwitz to personally oversee and speed up the extermination process. By the end of June, 381,661 persons - half of the Jews in Hungary - arrived at Auschwitz-Birkenau, which went on to record its highest-ever daily numbers of persons gassed and burned."
The workingclass of the United States, including all of the workers at the World Trade Center, including but not limited to the janitors, restaurant workers, stationary engineers, secretaries, telephone operators, retail clerks, file clerks, word processors, number processors, bookkeepers, photocopy clerks, computer specialists, firefighters, building maintenance personnel, and everyone else who worked for a living, cannot possibly be compared to Adolf Eichmann.
Ward Churchill states that everyone in this country is guilty of being complicit in the crimes of the capitalist class of this country, presumably including himself. If everyone is guilty, then by definition, no one is guilty. Of course, not everyone is guilty. It is the capitalist class that is guilty of crimes against humanity and it is the capitalist class that must be opposed, which only labor can do.
Ward Churchill claims to be a professor, an educated man. He not only heard the history of World War 2 in his home as his parents' generation was the World War 2 generation, he heard about it daily on the radio, on TV and in the newspapers. Furthermore, as a professor of liberal arts, he has to have read a great deal of history, and he must have better than average writing skills.
This "little Eichmann" phrase is a viciously reactionary analogy by a profoundly disturbed person. He is clearly in need of anger management and should be given his pension as soon as possible. Until then, he will have to remain on the job.
Ward Churchill offers no solution. Instead, he engages in name-calling of the victims of capitalism, including this horrifying attack by the Bush Administration on the workers at the World Trade Center, and in so doing, supports Bush's Big Lie that some outside force attacked the US on 9/11/01 when it was clearly an inside job.
YOU KNEW IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB BECAUSE THERE WAS NO AIR DEFENSE ON 9/11/01.
YOU KNEW IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB BECAUSE GEORGE BUSH SAT IN A FLORIDA CLASSROOM READING A GOAT STORY INSTEAD OF TAKING CHARGE AS COMMANDER IN CHIEF WHEN HE HEARD OF THE FIRST PLANE CRASH.
YOU KNEW IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB BECAUSE THERE IS NO REFORMIST OR REVOLUTIONARY PEOPLE"S ORGANIZATION IN THE WORLD THAT HAS THE MOTIVE, MEANS OR OPPORTUNITY TO CARRY OUT SUCH A VICIOUSLY REACTIONARY AND TECHNICALLY ADVANCED ACTION.
YOU KNEW IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB BECAUSE YOU ASKED THE QUESTION YOU MUST ALWAYS ASK: WHO BENEFITS? THE ANSWER CAN ONLY BE THE CAPITALIST CLASS AND ITS CHAIRPERSON OF THE BOARD, GEORGE W. BUSH.
Now you KNOW IT IS AN INSIDE JOB because you have read the books of Michael Ruppert and David Ray Griffin, available in all the bookstores in the Bay Area. You cannot give anyone the ridiculous line "my take on it" was, whatever. YOU HAVE TO DO THE HOMEWORK TO BE PART OF THE PEACE MOVEMENT.
THE SOLUTION IS A LABOR MOVEMENT. We have the many problems in our society, including the growing fascism in this country and its Reichstag Fires, because labor is only 12% organized. We need to build a labor movement; to organize the unorganized. If you cannot do it yourself, support others who can. March in the labor contingent at all demonstrations. Demand more labor programming on KPFA, 94.1 FM. Teach your fellow workers to support each other and to vote socialist. Support public school education and workingclass tenant organizations. WE NEED A LABOR MOVEMENT NOW!
From the Nizkor Project website at:
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/e/eichmann-adolf/
"It was Eichmann who organized the Wannsee Conference of January 1942, which focused on issues related to the "final solution of the Jewish question." From this point Eichmann assumed the leading role in the deportation of European Jews to the death camps, as well as in the plunder of their property."
For those of you who can stand it, the entire trial transcript is now online at:
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/e/eichmann-adolf/transcripts/
From the History Place website at
http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/biographies/eichmann.htm:
"In brief - Karl Adolf Eichmann (1906-1962) headed Gestapo Department IV B4 for Jewish Affairs, serving as a self proclaimed 'Jewish specialist' and was the man responsible for keeping the trains rolling from all over Europe to death camps during the Final Solution"
"In 1939 Eichmann returned to Berlin where he was appointed the head of Gestapo Section IV B4 of the new Reich Main Security Office (RSHA). He was now responsible for implementation of Nazi policy toward the Jews in Germany and all occupied territories (eventually totaling 16 countries). Eichmann thus became ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL MEN in the Third Reich and would remain head of IV B4 for the remainder of the Reich. " (Emphasis added.)
"Under the supervision of Eichmann, SS Einsatz groups in occupied areas of the Soviet Union now turned their full attention to the mass murder of Jews. Einsatz leaders kept highly detailed, daily records. Competitions even arose among the four main groups as to who posted the highest numbers. In the first year of the Nazi occupation of Soviet territory, over 300,000 Jews were murdered."
"Mobile gas-vans were used at first. These trucks had sealed rear compartments into which the engine fumes were fed, causing death via carbon monoxide."
"In January 1942 Eichmann helped Heydrich organize the Wannsee Conference in Berlin during which Heydrich and Eichmann along with 15 Nazi bureaucrats planned the extermination of the entire Jewish population of Europe and the Soviet Union, estimated at 11 million persons." [The Soviet Union was partly in Europe and partly in Asia.]
"Obersturmbannführer (Lt. Col.) Eichmann's sole purpose now became issues related to the Final Solution. He assumed the leading role in coordinating the deportation of Jews from every corner of Europe to existing ghettos in occupied Poland and to newly constructed gas chambers at places such as Sobibor, Chelmno, Treblinka and Auschwitz-Birkenau. At Birkenau the gas chamber disguised as a shower room could accommodate 2000 persons at a time."
"Eichmann took a keen interest in Auschwitz from its founding and visited there on numerous occasions. He helped Höss select the site for the gas chambers, approved the use of Zyklon-B, and witnessed the extermination process."
In March of 1944 Germany occupied its former satellite Hungary which had the last big Jewish population (725,000) in Europe. On that same day, Eichmann arrived with Gestapo "Special Section Commandos."
"By mid May, deportations of Jews from Hungary to Auschwitz began. Eichmann then travelled to Auschwitz to personally oversee and speed up the extermination process. By the end of June, 381,661 persons - half of the Jews in Hungary - arrived at Auschwitz-Birkenau, which went on to record its highest-ever daily numbers of persons gassed and burned."
The workingclass of the United States, including all of the workers at the World Trade Center, including but not limited to the janitors, restaurant workers, stationary engineers, secretaries, telephone operators, retail clerks, file clerks, word processors, number processors, bookkeepers, photocopy clerks, computer specialists, firefighters, building maintenance personnel, and everyone else who worked for a living, cannot possibly be compared to Adolf Eichmann.
Ward Churchill states that everyone in this country is guilty of being complicit in the crimes of the capitalist class of this country, presumably including himself. If everyone is guilty, then by definition, no one is guilty. Of course, not everyone is guilty. It is the capitalist class that is guilty of crimes against humanity and it is the capitalist class that must be opposed, which only labor can do.
Ward Churchill claims to be a professor, an educated man. He not only heard the history of World War 2 in his home as his parents' generation was the World War 2 generation, he heard about it daily on the radio, on TV and in the newspapers. Furthermore, as a professor of liberal arts, he has to have read a great deal of history, and he must have better than average writing skills.
This "little Eichmann" phrase is a viciously reactionary analogy by a profoundly disturbed person. He is clearly in need of anger management and should be given his pension as soon as possible. Until then, he will have to remain on the job.
Ward Churchill offers no solution. Instead, he engages in name-calling of the victims of capitalism, including this horrifying attack by the Bush Administration on the workers at the World Trade Center, and in so doing, supports Bush's Big Lie that some outside force attacked the US on 9/11/01 when it was clearly an inside job.
YOU KNEW IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB BECAUSE THERE WAS NO AIR DEFENSE ON 9/11/01.
YOU KNEW IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB BECAUSE GEORGE BUSH SAT IN A FLORIDA CLASSROOM READING A GOAT STORY INSTEAD OF TAKING CHARGE AS COMMANDER IN CHIEF WHEN HE HEARD OF THE FIRST PLANE CRASH.
YOU KNEW IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB BECAUSE THERE IS NO REFORMIST OR REVOLUTIONARY PEOPLE"S ORGANIZATION IN THE WORLD THAT HAS THE MOTIVE, MEANS OR OPPORTUNITY TO CARRY OUT SUCH A VICIOUSLY REACTIONARY AND TECHNICALLY ADVANCED ACTION.
YOU KNEW IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB BECAUSE YOU ASKED THE QUESTION YOU MUST ALWAYS ASK: WHO BENEFITS? THE ANSWER CAN ONLY BE THE CAPITALIST CLASS AND ITS CHAIRPERSON OF THE BOARD, GEORGE W. BUSH.
Now you KNOW IT IS AN INSIDE JOB because you have read the books of Michael Ruppert and David Ray Griffin, available in all the bookstores in the Bay Area. You cannot give anyone the ridiculous line "my take on it" was, whatever. YOU HAVE TO DO THE HOMEWORK TO BE PART OF THE PEACE MOVEMENT.
THE SOLUTION IS A LABOR MOVEMENT. We have the many problems in our society, including the growing fascism in this country and its Reichstag Fires, because labor is only 12% organized. We need to build a labor movement; to organize the unorganized. If you cannot do it yourself, support others who can. March in the labor contingent at all demonstrations. Demand more labor programming on KPFA, 94.1 FM. Teach your fellow workers to support each other and to vote socialist. Support public school education and workingclass tenant organizations. WE NEED A LABOR MOVEMENT NOW!
Blah blah this that blah blah till I want to shoot my fucking brains out
AND STILL CHURCHILL'S BASIC POINT STANDS:
The people of this country are now the "Good Germans" of the 21st century!
That's his essential message, and you're just evading it.
Until we rise up off our fat stupid asses and rip this country back out of the Fourth Reich's greasy paws, we will ALWAYS be 'Good Germans.'
That's totally what it was about, and he's right on!
I don't even think you disagree with that sentiment. You're just so lost in your own blatting hairsplitting ego games that you attack Churchill even though he's ON THE SAME GODDAMN TEAM, trying to jolt people out of their stupid selfish trance. He has his methods and his strategy, you have yours. Quit blowing that difference out of all proportion. If the left doesn't stop squabbling over stupid bullshit like this, we'll never stand a chance.
AND STILL CHURCHILL'S BASIC POINT STANDS:
The people of this country are now the "Good Germans" of the 21st century!
That's his essential message, and you're just evading it.
Until we rise up off our fat stupid asses and rip this country back out of the Fourth Reich's greasy paws, we will ALWAYS be 'Good Germans.'
That's totally what it was about, and he's right on!
I don't even think you disagree with that sentiment. You're just so lost in your own blatting hairsplitting ego games that you attack Churchill even though he's ON THE SAME GODDAMN TEAM, trying to jolt people out of their stupid selfish trance. He has his methods and his strategy, you have yours. Quit blowing that difference out of all proportion. If the left doesn't stop squabbling over stupid bullshit like this, we'll never stand a chance.
Hofer is by far in the minority. The vast majority of scholars concede that Marinus van der Lubbe set the fire. As far as arguing that Dutch Council Communists had "little to gain", I agree, but that has never stopped extemists in the past, or present, from doing stupid things that are against their interest...
Thank you to Sid Jones for blowing the whistle on Ward Churchill. Churchill apparently worked for the fascist Robert K. Brown's Soldier of Fortune, and opposing the Sandanista government of Nicaragua. Read all about it at:
http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/03/1730276.php
This Ward Churchill talks like a CIA agent and acts like a CIA agent.
http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/03/1730276.php
This Ward Churchill talks like a CIA agent and acts like a CIA agent.
For more information:
http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/03/173027...
So that's what CIA agents talk like?
Maybe that's why they haven't been able to find Osama bin Laden.
Maybe that's why they haven't been able to find Osama bin Laden.
So what is the name of this bar?
Eddie Rickenbacker’s
133 2nd Street
Tel: 415-543-3498
This pioneer South of Market joint is the creation of ‘normal’ Norman Hobday, better known to generations of San Franciscans as Corporal Henry Africa, a bar where singles crushed together for many years in a celebration of Tiffany lamps, oriental rugs, premium drinks in the smoothest, most sophisticated ‘action’ bar to hit this City since the gold rush. Henry Africa’s is where Harry Denton, Kevin Sullivan and a host of Dartmouth Grads cut their teeth in this City. After a lengthy and costly battle with his sibling who went on to open the Balboa, Norman opened Eddie Rickenbacker’s in the just awakening SOMA area, and it’s been a hit since then. It’s kind of like a grown up FAO Schwartz, with electric trains circling the large rectangular room hosing the bar and dining rooms. The ceiling is adorned with countless Tiffany Lamps, a bunch of historic motorcycles and memorabilia from wartime flying ‘ace’ Rickenbacker.
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Its in the financial district and it has motorcycles on the ceiling so that makes it sound closer to the description he gave than any other bar I can see listed. Its doesnt advertise that it has teeth on display of a sex slave of Custer that were knocked out of her mouth but if it does, someone should confirm this or take a picture so people can organize to get those returned to ancestors )if they are real or removed (if they are fake)
133 2nd Street
Tel: 415-543-3498
This pioneer South of Market joint is the creation of ‘normal’ Norman Hobday, better known to generations of San Franciscans as Corporal Henry Africa, a bar where singles crushed together for many years in a celebration of Tiffany lamps, oriental rugs, premium drinks in the smoothest, most sophisticated ‘action’ bar to hit this City since the gold rush. Henry Africa’s is where Harry Denton, Kevin Sullivan and a host of Dartmouth Grads cut their teeth in this City. After a lengthy and costly battle with his sibling who went on to open the Balboa, Norman opened Eddie Rickenbacker’s in the just awakening SOMA area, and it’s been a hit since then. It’s kind of like a grown up FAO Schwartz, with electric trains circling the large rectangular room hosing the bar and dining rooms. The ceiling is adorned with countless Tiffany Lamps, a bunch of historic motorcycles and memorabilia from wartime flying ‘ace’ Rickenbacker.
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Its in the financial district and it has motorcycles on the ceiling so that makes it sound closer to the description he gave than any other bar I can see listed. Its doesnt advertise that it has teeth on display of a sex slave of Custer that were knocked out of her mouth but if it does, someone should confirm this or take a picture so people can organize to get those returned to ancestors )if they are real or removed (if they are fake)
Yes - we should talk to the owner to judge his intentions. He could just feel like he is presenting a nonsanitized version of history, but he could also be presenting it callously. Sometimes people just haven't been informed - for instance, a number of schools have changed their slur-like mascot name.
The Reichstag was set on fire by the lone Marinus van der Lubbe, but the Nazis seized the opportunity to make up a vast communist conspiracy and treated the leaders of the Communist Party (Thälmann) and the Communist International (Dimitroff) just as the arsonist. After WWII, the Reichstag Fire became a cold war propaganda battle, in which the old West falsely purported the Communist Party plot version, and the old East falsely purported the Nazi Party plot version. But the fact of the matter is, there were other maverick attacks against the Nazis, such as the 1939 Munich beerhall bombing.
The German Nazis were all about NATIVIST SUPREMACISM, although a handful of them according to their own terms were not native Germans (Alfred Rosenberg). If you'd have a similiar phenomenon in the United States, its exponents would probably look like a whacky University of Colorado professor who is trying to play Musical Chairs with national identities.You know, German children know that game as "Journey to Jerusalem" and anyone can be picked to play the Eichmann...
The German Nazis were all about NATIVIST SUPREMACISM, although a handful of them according to their own terms were not native Germans (Alfred Rosenberg). If you'd have a similiar phenomenon in the United States, its exponents would probably look like a whacky University of Colorado professor who is trying to play Musical Chairs with national identities.You know, German children know that game as "Journey to Jerusalem" and anyone can be picked to play the Eichmann...
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