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White women kick Neo-Nazi organizer out of Mission Coffeeshop

by Chris Crass
White women kick Neo-Nazi organizer out of Mission Coffeeshop
White women kick Neo-Nazi organizer out of Mission Coffeeshop

It was another beautiful day in San Francisco this past Sunday, March 13. Hundreds lounged at Dolores Park taking in the sun. People gathered for futbol/soccer games and bike rides. My housemates went to the beach to see the enormous waves. And a neo-nazi in his late 20's was having a one-on-one conversation with a younger white woman to recruit her into "the Order". Sporting his NSSF patch (National Socialist Skinhead Front), he was openly organizing to build up the base of members for a right-wing white supremacist organization in the Bay Area.

Two white anarchist comrades, who wish to remain anonomous, randomly selected a table at Muddy Waters coffeeshop on 16th and Valencia. While they planned to take some time to read for an upcoming study group, they quickly realized what was happening at the table next to them. The fascist recruitment strategy was fascinating they explained to me later. The neo-Nazi and young woman had come together and it seemed that she was loosely affilited with right-wing political activity already. He choose his words carefully, talking about the 'organization' and their 'political work'. He explained that while he grew up in the Bay Area, he's been traveling to help build up chapters around the country, Arizona being the most recent spot. He wanted to talk with her specifically about the importance of women's leadership in the organization and wanting to support the sisters to take more active roles.

Explicit white supremacist grassroots groups like Neo-Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan have long been key forces to maintain and advance right-wing politics in communities around the United States - the shock troops that allow the White Citizen's Council's and the White House to operate as 'moderates/conservatives'. Communities of color, Jewish people and the Left have long been both the primary targets of right wing violence and the communities from which sustained challenges to white supremacy have been based. Throughout the 90's and into today, Left/anarchist activist groups like Anti-Racist Action have led hundreds of successful efforts to confront these right-wing groups. From physically putting their bodies on the line to stop them to organizing white youth to connect their anger and alienation to the real systems of power in this country like capitalism and joining with communities of color in struggles for economic and racial justice.

Back out in front of Muddy's, a group of friends, all white, mostly queer and majority women & genderqueer, gathered in front determined to "do something". After a brief discussion about the very real possibilities that he might react with violence - he was visibly carrying a knife and had earlier talked at length about the violent acts of his organization- the group agreed that two of the women would confront the neo-Nazi and tell him that he was not welcome in our communties. Their goal was to kick him out of the cafe and send a message that people will fight back whenever we see them.

In taking this stand, one of the women explained later, "White folks in particular need to stand up alongside people of color who are fighting for racial justice. White supremacist organizations represent only the most blatant, hate-fueled fringe of racism in this country, which goes much deeper than the neo-Nazi organizations that are resurging right now in response to the advances made by the right wing in all arenas. All of us need to take responsibility to challenge the rise of the right, which includes making our neighborhoods, streets and cafes Nazi-free zones. We can't allow white supremacists in our midst to build their power undisturbed. Just like this past January, when the anti-choice movement tried to march through San Francisco, thousands of us got into the streets and successfully turned their march around in the name of reproductive justice."

The other woman added, "We cannot allow this to happen. How often do we encounter situations that reinforcing oppression and how often do we remain silient, feel demoralized and wish later that we had acted."

They explained the situation to the Muddy's employee and the plan of action to which he replied "I support you". The two women went to the back of the cafe and confronted the neo-Nazi, telling him that they wouldn't allow them to continue a conversation about building white supremacist organizing, and to get the hell out. "I'm just having a conversation and this is America and we have free speech" he replied. He and the young women both said "don't judge us and this doesn't relate to you." The two women replied, "We will judge you and this does relate to us, as white people in this society racism impacts us and we will not tolerate you organizing in this cafe. You can't do this in our city and you have to leave."

Six others stood around the cafe prepared to support the two women if the situation escalated. They also walked around to all the other people hanging out in or coming into Muddy's and explained what was happening. Over 15 people then stood around the cafe to see what was happening. After ten minutes, with no physical confrontation, we watched the two antifascist women walk the neo-nazi and his recruit out the door. Word was spread to more people coming into the cafe about what had happened and several shared thank-yous with the women who refused to just stand by.

For more information about Anti-Racist Action check out: http://www.antiracistaction.us
For more information about the National Socialist Skinhead Front: http://www.nssf88.org/
For more information on white supremacy and work for racial justice: colours.mahost.org
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by Oaklander
Sorry, I'm as anti-fascist as the next guy, but I think kicking them out was pretty weak. Calling them publicly on their racism, so that they wanted to leave, might have been cooler.

I've seen too many instances where cops failed to respect the rights of anarchists to assemble in private or public, to think that this kind of thinking is ever okay.

Thanks for not letting them slide, though. That would have been worse.
by Thank you.
Thank you.
by rose
thanks, nazi's out of our city!
by out
Does anyone here remember back in like '90 or '91 when all the Nazi skins who lived on Parnassus rallied in Union Square and got SERIOUSLY worked over?? They got what they deserved. I hope there's still enough people living around here who would do the same all over again.
by cp
That is weird, on one level to find them at that location in the Mission, but in Seattle's U-district, which would have to be one of the most liberal, urban areas of the state, they just uncovered this neo-nazi who turned out to be the landlord/ property manager for dozens of low-income people, and he had been imprisoned in a plot to assassinate Martin Luther King in Los Angeles, and had worked with Richard Butler before they fought. Take a look at his picture. He was really awful to his neighbors there too, and everyone who knew him was scared of him, yet word about him didn't really spread and the community basically let him be for decades there: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/212249_fedarrests16.html
http://www.komotv.com/stories/35306.htm
by Next time...
It would have been nice to have taken a picture of this person and posted it with the story so people could keep an eye out for him.
by a photo
yeah, a photo would be nice. Remember, though, the dude was openly carrying a knife. i imagine the women did not want to have this turn into a physical conflict, and they did a really good job...making it clear to the nazi that he can't get away with openly organizing in our community, letting the coffee shop worker and the other patrons know what was going on...

Inspiring. I only hope if I run across him or any of his ilk I'll have the ovaries to do the same thing these women did.

by aaron
<<Does anyone here remember back in like '90 or '91 when all the Nazi skins who lived on Parnassus rallied in Union Square and got SERIOUSLY worked over??>>

I remember. It was supposed to be a big mobilization of the nazi skins (at union square), but only about twenty showed up.

After taking bottles and rocks to the their pink heads, the SFPD threw the nazis, covered in blood, into the police wagon and scurried them off. Didn't see much of them after that.
by cp
the newswire of the german indymedia, and a few other ones around there, has a lot of antifa stuff. It is very routine, and they have nicer signs much of the time.
With the question of why they are stationed in the Mission one block from 16th and Mission, it seems like victimizers need a source of victims to be complete, and the more balanced ones would stay in a right wing area

http://www.de.indymedia.org/antifa/
http://de.indymedia.org/2005/01/104160.shtml
http://de.indymedia.org/2005/02/105683.shtml
http://de.indymedia.org/2004/03/78276.shtml
http://de.indymedia.org/2004/06/85517.shtml
http://www.de.indymedia.org/2005/03/108502.shtml


http://de.indymedia.org/2005/03/108490.shtml

by kill nazis dead
good, they should have kicked the shit out of them before kicking the nazis out

by Joseph Anderson
And thank you for using your white sociopolitical status and privilege in order to openly confront such white racists, especially in predominantly white settings.

(This, as I use my native-born citizenship privilege to confront and speak up against anti-Arab/Muslim racism, American imperialism, and Zionist colonialism in the Middle East and to support resistance to that -- i.e, I cannot be imprisoned on flimsy pretexts or deported.)

White people also need to confront more "liberal" and more "educated", and even "respectable", forms of racism -- and not just leave it up to isolated people of color (to either confront racism by themselves or, alternatively, to be 'good sports' or otherwise quiescent) in white venues.

In fact, we all need to confront racism or bigotries against people, other than confronting racism or other bigotries just against those who target people like ourselves, and not just leave it up to the maligned/marginalized/isolated victims of racism and bigotry.

~

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With regard to the appropriateness of actually kicking the Neo-Nazi(s) out of the cafe and disrupting their organizing: I'ts not a "right to assembly" issue anymore than falsely yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater is a "freedom of speech" issue; or, anymore than shouting "Lynch him!" (incitement to commit murder) to an agitated mob of white racists is a "freedom of speech" issue. Neo-Nazis and other supremacists are people who advocate physically attacking (killing, displacing and even exterminating) other people -- as an entire group -- within the community/country, based on their race/ethnicity/religion/orientation. As such, they represent potential imminent danger to the physical safety of entire segments of the community.

It is entirely appropriate to let Neo-Nazis know that diverse minority groups *ARE* welcome in the community, but that Neo-Nazis, white-supremacists, and other supremacist types -- as a racist, etc., physical danger to the community as a whole -- are -- in no uncertain terms -- *NOT*.
by kakariki (kakariki [at] xnet.co.nz)
Well done to the two womyn who stood up and confronted nazi organisation. I am from Aotearoa New Zealand and we have been engaging heavily in public demonstrations against white supremacist organisation here for the last two years due to the increasing strength of the National Front. It's always inspiring to read about similar work in other parts of the world.

Kia kaha! (stand strong)
by Andreas
"Well done to the two womyn who stood up and confronted nazi organisation. I am from Aotearoa New Zealand and we have been engaging heavily in public demonstrations against white supremacist organisation here for the last two years due to the increasing strength of the National Front. It's always inspiring to read about similar work in other parts of the world.

Kia kaha! (stand strong)"

And this Kia kaha wonders why we White Nationalists don't want non-Whites in our nation. They cannot even spell "women" much less be productive to society.
by Socialist
White resistence to our new multiracial society should NOT be tolerated. We need to understand many in white America feel some resentment to the rapidly changing demographics of the country, and the west. Some may even feel displaced as refugees. Consequently, the seemingly impossible may occur...the ranks and hatred of the vicious far-right extremist, bigoted, evil, neo-nazi hate organziations may expand. Therefore, such resistence to change needs to be combated at every step to prevent the former mentioned possibility. My rabbi, a human right advocate is working tirelessly for the following considerations so please preview his following applicable email:

>America is often called a racist, Anti-Semitic,
>nativist and homophobic country. Judging from the
>comments of many people on this board, it is clear to
>me that these accusations are not completely without
>merit.
>
>What is a concerned Human Rights activist to do?
>
>Does he sit back and do nothing while blacks are being
>strapped to the back of pickup trucks and dragged to
>their death by those who envision a "whiter, brighter
>America"?
>
>Does the concerned Human Rights activist do and say
>nothing while children are being shot up at Jewish day
>care centers and people are being lynched in Wyoming
>for no other reason than that they because they have
>the "wrong" sexual orientation?
>
>What about those who use the Internet to deny the
>obvious facts that the Nazis gassed six million Jews
>to death during World War II? What about those who
>persist in this absurd denial while bigots of a
>somewhat less savory status silently lurk within the
>shadows of Internet discussion groups and whisper --
>sometimes in coded words and sometimes out loud and in
>words impossible to misinterpret -- about the "next
>Holocaust" which will be the "ultimate final solution"
>for the Jews and others deemed a threat to Aryan
>supremacy?
>
>What is a man or woman of principle and morals to do?
>
>While I have no mysterious, supernatural "ZOG" powers
>to bring about a sweeping change to the State of Hate
>of America, I DO have some ideas that I would like to
>implement if I had that power.
>
>Here is my ten point plan in order to make America a
>more tolerant place where people can have a better
>appreciation of our differences and common
>understanding of our diversity:

1) Establish a National Dialog on the State of Hate
>in America. President Clinton did an excellent job of
>opening up the dialog on race and paving the way to
>more meaningiful racial understanding and racial
>reconciliation with his national dialog on race.
>
>We are in dire need of a National Dialog on the State
>of Hate in America.
>
>(2) The establishment of a National Hate Patrol Task
>Force. Great Britain has plain clothes police officers
>who enter ethnic restaurants and listen in on
>conversations to see if anyone makes a racist,
>anti-Semitic or anti-foreigner remark.
>
>I think this is a wonderful idea. For punishment, I
>would suggest a small fine and community service. For
>example, if someone is overheard trying to deny or
>minimize the Holocaust in a conversation, he can be
>fined $106 and forced to do 60 hours of community
>service in a Jewish senior center that caters to
>survivors of the Holocaust.
>
>If someone says, "all blacks are stupid", he should be
>fined and forced to do community service in a
>predominately African American elementary school
>helping children from deprived backgrounds who face
>learning disorders.
>
>The "Hate Ticket" could have a series of categories
>for the officer to check. This would include: (A)
>racism, (B) anti-Semitism, (C) Holocaust Denial, (D)
>nativism and xenophobia, (E) homophobia, (F) sexism,
>(G) anti-government extremism, and (H) mild bigotry
>that does not fall into a particular class or category
>(such as someone suggesting that he doesn't
>"understand" why abortion rights are such a big deal).
>
>For first time offenders who say something mild, such
>as, "there sure are a lot of foreigners here", he
>could be given a written warning.
>
>I think this idea has a lot of merit. We, for example,
>enforce laws against speeding in order to protect
>lives from people who would recklessly endanger them.
>
>Why not give a "Hate Ticket" to someone whose remarks
>and blatant bigotry tears at the very fabric of
>society and threatens to pull us all apart?
>
>Speeders endanger individual lives. Haters threaten
>the entire society.
>
>(3) Tax breaks for interracial couples. Many persons
>who are involved in mixed race relationships suffer
>from discrimination as well as negative reactions from
>family, friends, co-workers and strangers. This in
>turn leads to negative feelings which may become
>internalized and affect a person's earning potential.
>
>While tax breaks are by no means a cure all for
>society's prejudice and bigotry, it may provide
>temporarily relief for persons in mixed race
>relationships overcoming society's bigotry and the
>subsequent damaged self image that may come from it.
>
>(4) Abolish the border between the US and Mexico. As
>you know, a hungry, tired and oppressed family fleeing
>Mexico may face fanatical border guards whose
>in-your-face and often violent tactics and approaches
>border on fascism.
>
>We should give up on maintaining a border between
>these two countries. Americans who should be free to
>visit Mexico and Mexicans should be free to come to
>the United States.
>
>(5) National registration of all hate sites and hate
>site visitors. This would be modeled on gun
>registration laws and this would help produce a
>national database for law enforcement to help track
>down people who commit hate crimes or who say very
>hateful things about certain groups.
>
>(6) Start a "Keep the Hate out of the Home" program
>whereby children report to government authorities on
>their parents if their parents are overheard making
>racist, anti-Semitic and extremist remarks. Parents
>who try to teach their children bigotry would be sent
>to Tolerance Reeducation Camps and their children sent
>to foster homes.
>
>(7) Build Tolerance Reeducation Camps. This is where
>people who say hurtful or offensive things can be sent
>in order to become better informed and educated about
>the values of diversity and multiculturalism.
>
>(8) Hate Filters to be installed on all computers,
>both public and private in the United States. As you
>know, there are federal regulations that must govern
>the way computer equipment is sold in the United
>States. Adding mandatory software should be no
>problem. A "Hate Filter" would be installed on all new
>computers and required in all older ones so as to
>prevent the spread of poisonous ideas and ideologies.
>
>(9) Establish and finance with public money various
>Human Rights Councils. These organizations help to
>bring about racial justice to people discriminated
>against or who have been exposed to public contempt
>and ridicule on account of their race, religion,
>national origin, sexual orientation, or HIV-status.
>Canada leads the world in bringing these fine
>organizations to the forefront of the fight against
>hate and intolerance.
>
>An example: Let's say a columnist asserts in the
>morning paper that Hollywood is controlled by a Jewish
>cabal that is bent on subverting and destroying white
>Christian culture? Due to some holes in the First
>Amendment, that potentially pogrom-inspiring rhetoric
>would be perfectly "legal" by American "free speech"
>standards.
>
>The only "response" one could have is to write an
>editorial pointing out the Anti-Semitism of the
>author. But that of course would be playing right into
>the hands of the extremists as extremists just simply
>love to use the "facts." The only other option decent
>people might be left with is to boycott the newspaper
>itself and try to get the writer of the racist
>diatribes fired.
>
>This would NOT be so with a decent and hard working
>Human Rights Council on our side. If we had such an
>organization, we could stop the hate-mongers dead in
>their tracks with lawsuits, hate crime charges, ethnic
>intimidation charges and other legal means.
>
>(10) Increase foreign aide to Israel from four billion
>to $400 billion per year. Anti-Semites and Jew haters
>like to whine about the four billion Israel receives
>in aide every year. The fact of the matter is that
>four billion a year is only $16 from every man, woman
>and child in America -- or $1.25 (the price of a candy
>bar) per MONTH.
>
>I believe we can easily secure a Jewish homeland for
>100 times that amount. And since Israel is such a good
>ally of the US, perhaps we would stand to benefit from
>Israel's technology, strategic location and her many
>allies all over the globe. While $400 billion may
>sound like a lot of money, it is still only a small
>fraction of the entire federal budget.
>
>The $400 billion could be used by Israel to secure its
>borders and build up its military strength and protect
>itself from slurs, vicious attacks, chemical,
>biological and nuclear weapons.
>
>Of course, there are those who say there might be some
>opposition from Congress. "The Jews don't need any
>more
>money", these Congressmen might say. Our response
>should simply be to remind them that Hitler would have
>said the exact same thing.
>
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by Ian Mcbride (Julianmcbride00 [at] yahoo.com)
I was around in the original punk scene in SF and saw first hand our scene ruined by Nazi skins. I also knew many of the skins who used to be punks. The most violent and racists were a group of gay prositute runaways. Yes, its true. They ended up running guns for Meitzer in Texas and getting jailed or killed in the process. Total waste of young, vunerable lives. That's the real story. Pretty ironic stuff, eh?
by Julian McBride (Julianmcbride00 [at] yahoo.com)
Now I know why the right is so terrifed of the left!!! The left can't try and force people to think what it wants. That's as terrifying as the right wing agenda! By example will tolerence and diversitry be taught, not by Hate police or throwing people in reeducation camps! Sounds a lot like Po Pot, baby! He had some really great ideas about a spiritual and cultural revolution that just so happened led to genocide in such reeducation camps. Examine your history and learn that intolerence creates just that. Plus 400 billion to Isreal? They are the biggest oppressors in the middle East. Read Noam Chomsky Post-911 and learn about the slaughter that is occuring with American tax dollars.
by heard it before
The last time people were tolerant of Nazis, it cost fifty million lives.
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