ProChoice Rally Monkees

Disgusting! I read that the pro-abortion counterprotest was very obscene and offensive, and I believe it. By contrast, the pictures of the pro-life march showed peaceful demonstrators marching in support of the right to life and better options for women.

I noticed that your website includes an "animal lib" section. Does this mean that you oppose harming or killing animals--for food, for instance--yet you think it's perfectly okay to suck a helpless human baby's brains out? Did anyone ever tell you that humans are animals? How hypocritical can you get?

"I read that the pro-abortion counterprotest was very obscene and offensive, and I believe it."

Of course because you believe what you want to believe. You want to demonize those you disagree with. Get out of the medieval age and smell the coffee.

"... you think it's perfectly okay to suck a helpless human baby's brains out? Did anyone ever tell you that humans are animals? How hypocritical can you get?"

Let's see who's more hypocritical? Someone who happens to have different beliefs from you and is capable of making choices about those beliefs?

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You, you in your arrant hypocrisy call yourself "Pro-Life" while hoping to force women to die of illegal abortions, killing clinic doctors, committing terrorism, denying info about sex education, and your worst crime, your failure to provide for so many existing babies and children and young people who are already on the planet.

Pro-Life that's a Lie!

I know that the speakers at the pro-abortion rally spoke about hangers and deaths in back-alleys and all that. But it's amazing how many times the pro-abortion crowd spits the stuff back out.

Since Roe vs. Wade, more women die each month from complications arising from abortions in the US than have died in the back alley's in all the time preceding it.

I'm sure this sounds crazy, but research this fact. Please. Don't look at pro-life websites and don't go to NARAL or Planned parenthood. Just look into it.

Julia's mom didn't want to kill Julie before she was born. But everyone else did. My brother and his wife were the only exception. They adopted Julia. Her mother was so happy that she wasn't forced into abortion by her family and "friends".

If you know a pregnant womyn, please let her know that there are at least ten couples like my brother and his wife to every child that's put up for adoption. The mother can choose from literally thousands of couples to give her baby to once he/she is born.

If you're responsible for making my choices, I'm against that.

Here's a lovely little story about what happens when people like you are allowed to make choices for others:

Sixteen years ago we would have supported legislation mandating parental involvement laws. Bills have been introduced by legislators to require minors under the age of 18 to notify their parents before obtaining an abortion, and to require minors to receive their parent's consent for an abortion. While these pieces of legislation seem reasonable on the surface, our experience has taught us that parental involvement laws seriously endanger the very families and teens they are intended to protect.

In 1988, our beautiful, vibrant, 17-year-old daughter Becky died suddenly, after a six-day illness. The pathologist who directed her autopsy concluded that the cause of her death was streptococcus pneumonia, brought about by an illegal abortion. Learning this, we finally understood our daughter's last words. In the hospital, she had taken off her oxygen mask and said, "Mom, Dad, I love you. Forgive me."

How could this have happened? Why would Becky have risked an illegal abortion? How could parents as close to their daughter as we had always been not have known that she was pregnant and desperate to deal with a situation that she believed she couldn't share with us?

We learned the sad answers to these questions in the weeks following our daughter's death. Becky had told her girlfriends that she believed we would be terribly hurt and disappointed in her if she told us about her pregnancy. Like a lot of young people, she was not comfortable sharing intimate details of her developing sexuality with her parents.

Becky discovered that our state has a parental consent law, which requires girls under the age of 18 to get their parent's permission before they can get an abortion. A Planned Parenthood counselor told her that she could apply for a judicial bypass as an alternative to parental consent. The counselor remembered Becky's response: "If I can't talk to my parents, how can I tell a judge who doesn't even know me?" We now know that in over ten years on the bench, the judge in our district has never issued a waiver to a teen for an abortion.

Desperate to avoid telling us about her pregnancy, and therefore unable to go to a reputable medical establishment, where abortions are performed compassionately and safely every day, Becky found someone operating outside the law who would help her. Becky had a back alley abortion. Indiana's parental involvement law ultimately led our daughter to her death.

Studies have established that the majority of teenagers (60-70%) do talk to their parents when they become pregnant. Of those who don't, about one-third are at risk of physical or emotional abuse. The rest, like Becky, believe for myriad reasons that this is a problem they must face without their parents.

Parental involvement laws further isolate girls in this last category, who feel it is impossible to turn to their parents, forcing them to instead make decisions and arrangements on their own.

All parents would want to know if their child was in a situation like Becky's. In fact, we would have supported the law in our state before we experienced the loss of our daughter. We have been forced to learn in the most painful way imaginable that laws cannot create family communication. We would rather have not known that our daughter had had an abortion, if it meant that she could have obtained the best of care, and come back home safely to us.

Many of you have daughters and granddaughters, and we are sure that you would want to be involved in any issues relating to their health and well-being - just as we did. Yet, the law in Indiana did not force Becky to involve us at her most desperate time.

As much as we would have wanted to help Becky through this crisis, the law did not succeed in forcing her to talk to us about issues she found too upsetting to share with us. For the sake of other parents' daughters, we urge legislators who are considering these very dangerous bills to remember Becky Bell, and to pass no laws that will increase the chances that even one desperate girl will feel that her only choice is an illegal abortion.

The law in Indiana did not make Becky come to us. Will other parental involvement laws be any different?

You keep quoting the stories you're fed by the billion dollar per year abortion industry. Fine. I'm sure they're true, and they're sad. Very sad. I'm sorry for those girls.

I'm only asking that those who call themselved "pro-choice" realize the implications of the name. I know quite a few womyn who've been pressured heavily into abortions. No one was there to say, "Do you want to give birth to your baby?" "Do you need help?"

"Pro-choice" is a total lie until you're willing to forget the propaganda from the abortion industry and actually help the womyn and girls you know. How many girls are sad every day because they had an abortion - because they made the choice that everyone supported. How many girls wish there had been just one person who supported the other choice? Just one.

Julia (in pic above) is only alive today because there was a couple (her adopted parents) who offered to carry some of the burden. They were the only people who offered Julia's birth mother the OTHER CHOICE. The Choice her mother wanted to make.

Now Julia's mom speaks with Julia on the phone, visits with her once a year, sends Christmas presents, etc. Julia's mom is not ever depressed about killing her baby. Julia's mom was blessed to have one pro-life couple who offered her the Other Choice.

I was unplanned and I'm for choice. If the circumstances hadn't been right for my birth, I would frankly rather not be here.

And as for "propaganda", you anti-choice woman-killers are doing a fine job of that yourselves. How 'bout them Nuremburg files, whooee that was some fine propaganda. The stories of people who don't happen to support your side of the issue are always dismissed as propaganda, and that frankly is bullshit.

"Pro-life" is a lie until you take full responsibility for all the children that are born because you want to deny women choice. You can't take care of the ones that are here. You aren't even trying. "No child left behind" is a good example of fake words propping up phony feel good policies.

Yes, there are lots of folk willing to adopt as long as the child is an infant, white and preferrably blonde and blue-eyed, especially if they can't perpetuate their own precious genes. Good for your brother and his nameless wife. Not so good for the reject babies, or even the ones who grow up with love but without shelter or adequate food. You've got nothing to be smug about.

In New York City alone 100,000 women a year died from illegal abortion prior to 1975. That's simply outragous. To suggest that legal abortions have caused similar damage is untrue and frankly crazy. In fact thousands of women in this country each year die of childbirth itself. The number of women that died from legal abortions is less that 0.09 percent. I ask you, where are you getting your data? Mine comes from the medical community, yours comes from wishfull thinking. Attempting to scare women into submission is the idea. Submission here being the key. I wonder how many of these Pro-life people have adopted children and actually support contraception and who are pro WAR and pro death penalty. Their compassion for the unborn does not extend past birth. If it did we might actually have government supported day care for children and no foster homes. I'm afraid the real issue here is the desire to control women and birth, its plain old hate and control people, the basis for all the worlds religions and wars. The desire to control life has been the basis for all struggle since the beginning of patriarchial culture and all written text. Enlighten yourself and embrace freedom. True freedom of the mind, soul and the body.