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Cops on Protesters, in their own words at cop forum

by cares too much
Cops spend a lot of time at these forums shooting us down every chance they get. Maybe it's time we take them on by their horns, right in their little nest?
The worst thing that can happen if we go and challenge these domestic soldiers called cops is that the cop bosses will censor all challenge, but then that would fuck with cop mentalities just a little bit more, and MIGHT actually get these domestic soldiers thinking things through! Is that possible?

My own experience with soldiers called cops is that *sometimes* they CAN think things through. If they allow their brains to work a little bit (that's patently taboo!), they might see that if they advocate blocking first ammendment speech/protests, THEY will be setting themselves up for arrest, come, say, them wanting to express grievances in the form of unwanted protest!

Really, you'd think they'd get it...

My own experience with cops is that sometimes they permit themselves to think. They are people underneath all of their manipulated armor, after all. Duped, fooled, isolated, tooled into subordinating themselves to the very forces of warfare that would/will target THEM if they DARE to challenge the Way Things Is!

Let's not forget Norma Jean Almodovar, ex-LAPD who tried to write and publish a book about her experiences of sexism within the LAPD! See her book _Cop To Call Girl_

Or how about http://www.policeabuse.com Where are they now? Did these undercover cops themselves get shut down when they started shaking shit up "too much", such as systematically exposing cop systemic corruption "too many" times?

Really, the truth boils down to the reality that we are ALL human beings who are being TOOLED and FOOLED to fit the agendas of people who CAN tool and fool US ALL!

And we're kept divided and atomized! And in that climate, solutions can NEVER be found, except to strengthen tyranny!

But, of course, every day the populace in general is having their consent manufactured, their opinion engineered, into believing that "PEOPLE ARE JUST TOO STUPID TO DO ANYTHING SANE".

And so we get all these groups wanting to make WAR on each other. All these alienated people who cannot and will not see value in radical empathy. All these damn fools who end up becoming the domestic and foreign puppets of "the smart people", the "capable" people.
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by cares
we need to examine and understand cop psychology. Hell, soldier psychology. When was the last time you front-line black blockers/protesters read anything by and for cops?

Some say soldiers (and cops) are recruited in specific ways. There are many different varieties of soldiers, but those recruited for the street are people who, some say, are highschool graduates (only) and are typically isolated in school. Separated from in-crowds, fucked-with by peers, conditioned by their schooling (like the rest of us) to want to meaningfully contribute to the version of reality that surrounds them.

Really, they *do have good intentions*, but they fail to see the realities of being a domestic or foreign soldier.

Who's going to tell them after all?

Not the recruiters. Not the "politicals" like yourselves who keep cliques of your own so well-defined and such. Thus, in our collective alienation, in our depravation of demystifying information, we are mined, resourced, and tooled in such a way that the whole process has become "routinized".

But we can mess with this situation. When we understand the game, the institutions and the openings open to us. And, last but not least, the VALUE of reaching out TO EACH OTHER AS HUMAN BEINGS.

If we are going to evolve (a big if), we're going to have to stop subordinating our individualities to all of these faiths, all of these religions, be they Leftist, Rightist, religionist, nationalist, or what have you. At base, they are all no better than religious faiths, dogmas.

All of these groupings that have become like platoons. Armies. EASILY hyped-up to carry out the whims and fucked-up ideas of people so severely alienated that they think of themselves (in a most bigoted way) as "more capable", "more rational", basically "more equal" than all the rest of us.

And then they can mobilize us to wars, domestic and foreign. And they can drop these nuclear bombs, and they can inspire their victims to take up the methods of terrorism as a last resort. STUPIDITY!

But we are not stupid. Collectively, we are all treasure! We are all angels underneath our PAIN and our SUFFERING. We all want to FIND A WAY OUT OF THIS HELL, and have been and are continuing to allow ourselves to be FOOLED and TOOLED!

When will we ever learn? Can we learn? Can we see how, collectively, we are CONDITIONED to act stupidly? And that these institutions, these FORTRESSES of ideas, are FORCING their ancient beliefs down on us ALL! Including our bosses even! Because, in compulsory schools, in compulsory biological families, we ARE GIVEN NO CHOICE!
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