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Bring The War Home
On June 27th to July 4th, thousands of people will come to San Francisco to bring the war home.
On June 27th to July 4th, thousands of people will come to San Francisco to bring the war home.
Bring The War Home is a non-violent direct action campaign, centered around independent autonomous actions by related and unrelated affinity groups.
Join us for independent direct action to stop the war machine and war profiteers, breakaway rally & march, street theatrics, anti war-profiteering actions, art attacks, air raids, martial law, military occupation, music, celebration, and resistance.
Bring The War Home is a grassroots campaign, an idea that has been germinating for a few years as we become more and more frustrated by the arrogance and hostility of those who claim to represent us and less and less able to ignore our hopes for the changes we wish to see in the world.
Some of us come from an activist tradition, some from the arts, a few of us seem to be quietly involved in just about everything, and a few of us feel like total newbies to it all and have become politically active only within the last few years (but can no longer stand by and watch things that feel so wrong). Bring The War Home started as an affinity group of random people who've run into each other and worked together through protests, burning man, art collectives, parties, and neighborhood mischief. We found to our surprise that many of us were coincidentally arrested together at the same place on March 20th last year. From there the campaign has grown.
Some of us want to fix the system, while some of us want to blow it up. A great majority of us believe that radical change is the answer. That is, our problems won't be solved at the ballot box. And we agree that there is no likely good outcome of November's election. We'll choose between a conservative that acts like a tyrant and a moderate that acts like a conservative (and doesn't oppose tyranny). Instead, we choose to vote in the streets.
So far, it's only us behind the campaign, but we're hoping you'll join us.
Our hopes for Bring The War Home go well beyond the usual protests. Beyond street blockades and breakaway marches. Well beyond art attacks, symbolic protest, and street theater. Beyond everything we've said here.
We vow not to hurt other living things, but we'll smash the mechanisms of war, of control, and of economic power.
The powerful continue to fan the hot little coals of our discontent, our self-righteous indignation and anger. We won't accept the few bones they may throw our way. We want peace, freedom, security, and justice -- not just here, but in other lands. It is long long overdue. We want it now. And we're willing to fight for it.
I know there is a lot going on this summer, but we're hoping you'll join us to step up the resistance one more notch within the empire.
http://www.bringthewarhome.net
Bring The War Home is a non-violent direct action campaign, centered around independent autonomous actions by related and unrelated affinity groups.
Join us for independent direct action to stop the war machine and war profiteers, breakaway rally & march, street theatrics, anti war-profiteering actions, art attacks, air raids, martial law, military occupation, music, celebration, and resistance.
Bring The War Home is a grassroots campaign, an idea that has been germinating for a few years as we become more and more frustrated by the arrogance and hostility of those who claim to represent us and less and less able to ignore our hopes for the changes we wish to see in the world.
Some of us come from an activist tradition, some from the arts, a few of us seem to be quietly involved in just about everything, and a few of us feel like total newbies to it all and have become politically active only within the last few years (but can no longer stand by and watch things that feel so wrong). Bring The War Home started as an affinity group of random people who've run into each other and worked together through protests, burning man, art collectives, parties, and neighborhood mischief. We found to our surprise that many of us were coincidentally arrested together at the same place on March 20th last year. From there the campaign has grown.
Some of us want to fix the system, while some of us want to blow it up. A great majority of us believe that radical change is the answer. That is, our problems won't be solved at the ballot box. And we agree that there is no likely good outcome of November's election. We'll choose between a conservative that acts like a tyrant and a moderate that acts like a conservative (and doesn't oppose tyranny). Instead, we choose to vote in the streets.
So far, it's only us behind the campaign, but we're hoping you'll join us.
Our hopes for Bring The War Home go well beyond the usual protests. Beyond street blockades and breakaway marches. Well beyond art attacks, symbolic protest, and street theater. Beyond everything we've said here.
We vow not to hurt other living things, but we'll smash the mechanisms of war, of control, and of economic power.
The powerful continue to fan the hot little coals of our discontent, our self-righteous indignation and anger. We won't accept the few bones they may throw our way. We want peace, freedom, security, and justice -- not just here, but in other lands. It is long long overdue. We want it now. And we're willing to fight for it.
I know there is a lot going on this summer, but we're hoping you'll join us to step up the resistance one more notch within the empire.
http://www.bringthewarhome.net
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http://www.bringthewarhome.net
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This rather rapidly written piece seems to be against violence but advocates it as a means to a clearly unidentified end. What do you propose to do (getting away from the language of the protest-of-the-week©) and, more importantly, what specific things do you hope to address in this week and how should they be changed (giving some specific goal/plan other than a contrary slogan on a sign)? The veiled claims of violence might sound comforting to some who are frustrated with the pace of change they do not see, but escalating tactics that have not worked so far (or have worked fine, but have their limits) is not a wise suggestion. If the change you seek is not forthcoming, maybe the methods you use to bring it about need some serious scrutiny.
The writing also claims to be against using the ballot as a means to register the population’s choice on a given matter. So, who gets to decide what the flavor of government is to look like? Those who yell the loudest, stay at rambling meetings longest? Certainly, blaming the ballot can’t be a good way to solve the problem.
Then again, if you want to get a taste of power that comes with organizing and planning such things, feel free. March here and there; chant at the gap; take pictures of police standing around looking goofy and tough; and so on. However, I don’t think acting in your self-interest is what the world needs right now.
The writing also claims to be against using the ballot as a means to register the population’s choice on a given matter. So, who gets to decide what the flavor of government is to look like? Those who yell the loudest, stay at rambling meetings longest? Certainly, blaming the ballot can’t be a good way to solve the problem.
Then again, if you want to get a taste of power that comes with organizing and planning such things, feel free. March here and there; chant at the gap; take pictures of police standing around looking goofy and tough; and so on. However, I don’t think acting in your self-interest is what the world needs right now.
why dont you read their website. it answers just about every question you asked. next time you make a criticism, know what youre talking about. thanks, assface.
There are many reasons why elections in any country don't serve the
interests of the oppressed, but in the United Snakes of AmeriKKKa
there's a special reason that over-rides all others:
interests of the oppressed, but in the United Snakes of AmeriKKKa
there's a special reason that over-rides all others:
99% of the people oppressed by the U.S. ruling class
don't live in the U.S. and therefore don't even have
the nominal right to choose which representative of
that class manages their oppression. Therefore even a
super-democratic election in the U.S. would have no
more legitimacy than a super-democratic election
inside the Mafia!
Oh great, another week of fucking "direct action" bullshit. The people of SF will really love this! Oh, wait, that doesn't matter - why they just pay the bills for your stupid confrontational crap. More OT for the cops! Please, take this tired act on the road and go inflict it somewhere else for once.
perhaps we would if the U.S. government would only stop invading other countries to boost corporate profits.
So, because governments are inept, criminal and unresponsive to a majority of the needs or their citizens, elections should be discarded in lieu of violence of decision making by those who have the power and clout to pull off whatever scheme they dream up?
Or maybe that the debate should be one of whether to protest or not and let people like "someone who lives here" frame the debate as one of police overtime and blocked streets versus the right to protest, rather than focus on a select set of issues that can be addressed effectively through a clear action?
Or perhaps we should attack publicly those who offer a critique of what they see as directionless talk that does little to welcome those outside the tight circle of hyper lefties rather than have an inclusive agenda that has realistic goals? Putting away rhetoric of socialist revolution and rambling speech of how all problems are one and must be attack in a all of nothing fashion might let some of us who have a more balance view of the problems come forward to address some issues, for one example US tax law change to curtail (not overthrow) corporation excess through responsible reform.
Or, it should just be an in-party and the rambling and accusations are what it is all about, as it too often is?
Or maybe that the debate should be one of whether to protest or not and let people like "someone who lives here" frame the debate as one of police overtime and blocked streets versus the right to protest, rather than focus on a select set of issues that can be addressed effectively through a clear action?
Or perhaps we should attack publicly those who offer a critique of what they see as directionless talk that does little to welcome those outside the tight circle of hyper lefties rather than have an inclusive agenda that has realistic goals? Putting away rhetoric of socialist revolution and rambling speech of how all problems are one and must be attack in a all of nothing fashion might let some of us who have a more balance view of the problems come forward to address some issues, for one example US tax law change to curtail (not overthrow) corporation excess through responsible reform.
Or, it should just be an in-party and the rambling and accusations are what it is all about, as it too often is?
as an anarchist, i am not interested in "responsible" reform. it must be easy for you to talk about "curtailing (not overthrowing" corporate power, as an american who enjoys numerous privileges as a Citizen of the Empire, but the fact is, people are suffering and dying because of the policies of these corporations and their U.S. government sponsors. This system cannot be peacefully reformed. It MUST be overthrown; things really are that urgent (life and death!). To address your claim that using direct action as opposed to the ballot will lead to rule by a forceful minority: WAKE UP! We are already being ruled by a small minority with a monopoly on force. That is what government is all about. On the other hand, anarchists, and I count myself among them, advocate true participatory democracy (as opposed to demagoguery or majorit-archy), which is something much bigger than the ballot. It means everyone runs their own life, and is directly involved in the decisions that effect them. We aren't some elite group of "hyper-leftists" in SF trying to take over; we're just trying to inform people so they can take control of their own lives. Our direct action is meant to try to stop undemocratic institutions, such as corporations, from carrying out their agenda of destruction and death on the people of the world.
Go tell the families of children blown up by cluster bombs in Iraq that reform is the answer.
Go tell the families of children blown up by cluster bombs in Iraq that reform is the answer.
What is that you are planning to do to accomplish your goals? Can you convince me that you're not living in a frantasy world. Seriously.
the weather underground used that slogan, and were quite effective in wreaking havoc all around the nation, for they had a contigency plan(blowing up buildings - without maiming or killing people - symbolic to the oppressive factions they were railing against) which was well carried out and the members never got busted until they actually started turning themselves in long after the vietnam was over and there was no purpose for them to exist as a group.. i would love to see this organization pull off similar feats of heroism(not neccesarily blowing up buildings but effective and creative resisatance)considering they're using the same namesak their fellow bretheren from the late 60's and early 70's did... power to the peeps and bring the war home!!!!!
Yep, just did a search on it. The link is very much worth the read too. Looks like these folks borrowed liberally for their text too.
http://www.barnard.columbia.edu/history/faculty/jay/socialmovement/AntiWar/sds_bring_the_war_home.htm
In any case, I'm excited about this. At the very least it has encouraged me and my affinity group to step up and finally put into action this idea we'd been talking about for a while.
Hopefully, that's the case for lots of people. This should be fun.
http://www.barnard.columbia.edu/history/faculty/jay/socialmovement/AntiWar/sds_bring_the_war_home.htm
In any case, I'm excited about this. At the very least it has encouraged me and my affinity group to step up and finally put into action this idea we'd been talking about for a while.
Hopefully, that's the case for lots of people. This should be fun.
Is the movement going to crumble when Martial Law is put in place?
Why hasn't the movement been investigating the detention camps for Americans that break martial law?
If the government can think this far ahead why can't we?
We need to do something, i.e MOBILIZE THE MOVEMENT FOR MARTIAL
Why hasn't the movement been investigating the detention camps for Americans that break martial law?
If the government can think this far ahead why can't we?
We need to do something, i.e MOBILIZE THE MOVEMENT FOR MARTIAL
could you post more info, like a web site perhaps, on this?
So lets see who shows up. Come on people get organized, will we get 12 or 1200? I'm only betting on 1 myself (well some days anyway). War is about to happen and everyone takes to the streets to protest. War happens we all talk about how it sucks and sit at home, sleep late and complain that theres not enough people out there to make a difference. Well lets see if no one shows up well then you dont show up and if you dont show up no one shows up? Do we see a pattern here? I think its time to remember that every event, every ralley, every march, every Reclaim the Streets is important!
U.S. CONCENTRATION CAMPS
FEMA AND THE REX 84 PROGRAM
There over 600 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States.
The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a mass exodus of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons.
Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs which will be implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated for its proper purpose. Garden Plot is the program to control the population. Cable Splicer is the program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the federal government. FEMA is the executive arm of the coming police state and thus will head up all operations. The Presidential Executive Orders already listed on the Federal Register also are part of the legal framework for this operation.
The camps all have railroad facilities as well as roads leading to and from the detention facilities. Many also have an airport nearby. The majority of the camps can house a population of 20,000 prisoners. Currently, the largest of these facilities is just outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. The Alaskan facility is a massive mental health facility and can hold approximately 2 million people.
A person named Terry Kings wrote an article on his discoveries of camps
located in southern California. His findings are as follows:
Over the last couple months several of us have investigated three soon-to-be prison camps in the Southern California area. We had heard about these sites and wanted to see them for ourselves.
The first one we observed was in Palmdale, California. It is not operating as a prison at the moment but is masquerading as part of a water facility. Now why would there be a facility of this nature out in the middle of nowhere with absolutely no prisoners? The fences that run for miles around this large facility all point inward, and there are large mounds of dirt and dry moat surrounding the central area so the inside area is not visible from the road. There are 3 large loading docks facing the entrance that can be observed from the road. What are these massive docks going to be loading?
We observed white vans patrolling the area and one came out and greeted us with a friendly wave and followed us until we had driven safely beyond the area. What would have happened had we decided to enter the open gate or ask questions?
This facility is across the street from the Palmdale Water Department. The area around the Water Department has fences pointing outward, to keep people out of this dangerous area so as not to drown. Yet, across the street, the fences all point inward. Why? To keep people in? What people? Who are going to be it’s occupants?
There are also signs posted every 50 feet stating: State of California Trespassing Loitering Forbidden By Law Section 555 California Penal Code.
The sign at the entrance says: Pearblossom Operations and Maintenance Subcenter Receiving Department, 34534 116th Street East. There is also a guard shack located at the entrance.
We didn’t venture into this facility, but did circle around it to see if there was anything else visible from the road. We saw miles of fences with the top points all directed inward. There is a railroad track that runs next to the perimeter of this fenced area. The loading docks are large enough to hold railroad cars.
I wonder what they are planning for this facility? They could easily fit 100,000 people in this area. And who would the occupants be?
Another site is located in Brand Park in Glendale. There are newly constructed fences (all outfitted with new wiring that point inward). The fences surround a dry reservoir. There are also new buildings situated in the area. We questioned the idea that there were four armed military personnel walking the park. Since when does a public park need armed guards?
A third site visited was in the San Fernando Valley, adjacent to the Water District. Again, the area around the actual Water District had fences logically pointing out (to keep people out of the dangerous area). And the rest of the adjacent area which went on for several miles was ringed with fences and barbed wire facing inward (to keep what or who in?) Also, interesting was the fact that the addition to the tops of the fences were fairly new as to not even contain any sign of rust on them. Within the grounds was a huge building that the guard said was a training range for policemen. There were newly constructed roads, new gray military looking buildings, and a landing strip. For what? Police cars were constantly patrolling the several mile perimeter of the area.
From the parking lot of the Odyssey Restaurant a better view could be taken of the area that was hidden from site from the highway. There was an area that contained about 100 black boxes that looked like railroad cars. We had heard that loads of railroad cars have been manufactured in Oregon outfitted with shackles. Would these be of that nature? From our position it was hard to determine.
In searching the Internet, I have discovered that there are about 600 of these prison sites around the country (and more literally popping up overnight do they work all night). They are manned, but yet do not contain prisoners. Why do they need all these non-operating prisons? What are they waiting for? We continuously hear that our current prisons are overcrowded and they are releasing prisoners because of this situation. But what about all these facilities? What are they really for? Why are there armed guards yet no one to protect themselves against? And what is going to be the kick-off point to put these facilities into operation?
What would bring about a situation that would call into effect the need for these new prison facilities? A man-made or natural catastrophe? An earthquake, panic due to Y2K, a massive poisoning, a panic of such dimensions to cause nationwide panic?
Once a major disaster occurs (whether it is a real event or manufactured event does not matter) Martial Law is hurriedly put in place and we are all in the hands of the government agencies (FEMA) who thus portray themselves as our protectors. Yet what happens when we question those in authority and how they are taking away all of our freedoms? Will we be the ones detained in these camp sites? And who are they going to round up? Those with guns? Those who ask questions? Those that want to know what’s really going on? Does that include any of us? The seekers of truth?
When first coming across this information I was in a state of total denial. How could this be? I believed our country was free, and always felt a sense of comfort in knowing that as long as we didn’t hurt others in observing our freedom we were left to ourselves. Ideally we treated everyone with respect and honored their uniqueness and hoped that others did likewise.
It took an intensive year of searching into the hidden politics to discover that we are as free as we believe we are. If we are in denial, we don’t see the signs that are staring at us, but keep our minds turned off and busy with all the mundane affairs of daily life.
We just don’t care enough to find out the real truth, and settle for the hand-fed stories that come our way over the major media sources television, radio, newspaper, and magazines. But it’s too late to turn back to the days of blindfolds and hiding our heads in the sand because the reality is becoming very clear. The time is fast approaching when we will be the ones asking "What happened to our freedom? To our free speech? To our right to protect ourselves and our family? To think as an individual? To express ourselves in whatever way we wish?"
Once we challenge that freedom we find out how free we really are. How many are willing to take up that challenge? Very few indeed, otherwise we wouldn’t find ourselves in the situation that we are in at the present time. We wouldn’t have let things progress and get out of the hands of the public and into the hands of those that seek to keep us under their control no matter what it takes, and that includes the use of force and detainment for those that ask the wrong questions.
Will asking questions be outlawed next? Several instances have recently been reported where those that were asking questions that came too near the untold truth (the cover up) were removed from the press conferences and from the public’s ear. Also, those that wanted to speak to the press were detained and either imprisoned, locked in a psychiatric hospital, slaughtered (through make-believe suicides) or discredited.
Why are we all in denial over these possibilities? Didn’t we hear about prison camps in Germany, and even in the United States during World War II? Japanese individuals were rounded up and placed in determent camps during the duration of the War. Where was their freedom?
You don’t think it could happen to you? Obviously those rounded up and killed didn’t think it could happen to them either. How could decent people have witnessed such atrocities and still said nothing? Are we going to do the same here as they cart off one by one those individuals who are taking a stand for the rights of the citizens as they expose the truth happening behind the scenes? Are we all going to sit there and wonder what happened to this country of ours? Where did we go wrong? How could we let it happen?
FEMA AND THE REX 84 PROGRAM
There over 600 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States.
The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a mass exodus of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons.
Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs which will be implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated for its proper purpose. Garden Plot is the program to control the population. Cable Splicer is the program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the federal government. FEMA is the executive arm of the coming police state and thus will head up all operations. The Presidential Executive Orders already listed on the Federal Register also are part of the legal framework for this operation.
The camps all have railroad facilities as well as roads leading to and from the detention facilities. Many also have an airport nearby. The majority of the camps can house a population of 20,000 prisoners. Currently, the largest of these facilities is just outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. The Alaskan facility is a massive mental health facility and can hold approximately 2 million people.
A person named Terry Kings wrote an article on his discoveries of camps
located in southern California. His findings are as follows:
Over the last couple months several of us have investigated three soon-to-be prison camps in the Southern California area. We had heard about these sites and wanted to see them for ourselves.
The first one we observed was in Palmdale, California. It is not operating as a prison at the moment but is masquerading as part of a water facility. Now why would there be a facility of this nature out in the middle of nowhere with absolutely no prisoners? The fences that run for miles around this large facility all point inward, and there are large mounds of dirt and dry moat surrounding the central area so the inside area is not visible from the road. There are 3 large loading docks facing the entrance that can be observed from the road. What are these massive docks going to be loading?
We observed white vans patrolling the area and one came out and greeted us with a friendly wave and followed us until we had driven safely beyond the area. What would have happened had we decided to enter the open gate or ask questions?
This facility is across the street from the Palmdale Water Department. The area around the Water Department has fences pointing outward, to keep people out of this dangerous area so as not to drown. Yet, across the street, the fences all point inward. Why? To keep people in? What people? Who are going to be it’s occupants?
There are also signs posted every 50 feet stating: State of California Trespassing Loitering Forbidden By Law Section 555 California Penal Code.
The sign at the entrance says: Pearblossom Operations and Maintenance Subcenter Receiving Department, 34534 116th Street East. There is also a guard shack located at the entrance.
We didn’t venture into this facility, but did circle around it to see if there was anything else visible from the road. We saw miles of fences with the top points all directed inward. There is a railroad track that runs next to the perimeter of this fenced area. The loading docks are large enough to hold railroad cars.
I wonder what they are planning for this facility? They could easily fit 100,000 people in this area. And who would the occupants be?
Another site is located in Brand Park in Glendale. There are newly constructed fences (all outfitted with new wiring that point inward). The fences surround a dry reservoir. There are also new buildings situated in the area. We questioned the idea that there were four armed military personnel walking the park. Since when does a public park need armed guards?
A third site visited was in the San Fernando Valley, adjacent to the Water District. Again, the area around the actual Water District had fences logically pointing out (to keep people out of the dangerous area). And the rest of the adjacent area which went on for several miles was ringed with fences and barbed wire facing inward (to keep what or who in?) Also, interesting was the fact that the addition to the tops of the fences were fairly new as to not even contain any sign of rust on them. Within the grounds was a huge building that the guard said was a training range for policemen. There were newly constructed roads, new gray military looking buildings, and a landing strip. For what? Police cars were constantly patrolling the several mile perimeter of the area.
From the parking lot of the Odyssey Restaurant a better view could be taken of the area that was hidden from site from the highway. There was an area that contained about 100 black boxes that looked like railroad cars. We had heard that loads of railroad cars have been manufactured in Oregon outfitted with shackles. Would these be of that nature? From our position it was hard to determine.
In searching the Internet, I have discovered that there are about 600 of these prison sites around the country (and more literally popping up overnight do they work all night). They are manned, but yet do not contain prisoners. Why do they need all these non-operating prisons? What are they waiting for? We continuously hear that our current prisons are overcrowded and they are releasing prisoners because of this situation. But what about all these facilities? What are they really for? Why are there armed guards yet no one to protect themselves against? And what is going to be the kick-off point to put these facilities into operation?
What would bring about a situation that would call into effect the need for these new prison facilities? A man-made or natural catastrophe? An earthquake, panic due to Y2K, a massive poisoning, a panic of such dimensions to cause nationwide panic?
Once a major disaster occurs (whether it is a real event or manufactured event does not matter) Martial Law is hurriedly put in place and we are all in the hands of the government agencies (FEMA) who thus portray themselves as our protectors. Yet what happens when we question those in authority and how they are taking away all of our freedoms? Will we be the ones detained in these camp sites? And who are they going to round up? Those with guns? Those who ask questions? Those that want to know what’s really going on? Does that include any of us? The seekers of truth?
When first coming across this information I was in a state of total denial. How could this be? I believed our country was free, and always felt a sense of comfort in knowing that as long as we didn’t hurt others in observing our freedom we were left to ourselves. Ideally we treated everyone with respect and honored their uniqueness and hoped that others did likewise.
It took an intensive year of searching into the hidden politics to discover that we are as free as we believe we are. If we are in denial, we don’t see the signs that are staring at us, but keep our minds turned off and busy with all the mundane affairs of daily life.
We just don’t care enough to find out the real truth, and settle for the hand-fed stories that come our way over the major media sources television, radio, newspaper, and magazines. But it’s too late to turn back to the days of blindfolds and hiding our heads in the sand because the reality is becoming very clear. The time is fast approaching when we will be the ones asking "What happened to our freedom? To our free speech? To our right to protect ourselves and our family? To think as an individual? To express ourselves in whatever way we wish?"
Once we challenge that freedom we find out how free we really are. How many are willing to take up that challenge? Very few indeed, otherwise we wouldn’t find ourselves in the situation that we are in at the present time. We wouldn’t have let things progress and get out of the hands of the public and into the hands of those that seek to keep us under their control no matter what it takes, and that includes the use of force and detainment for those that ask the wrong questions.
Will asking questions be outlawed next? Several instances have recently been reported where those that were asking questions that came too near the untold truth (the cover up) were removed from the press conferences and from the public’s ear. Also, those that wanted to speak to the press were detained and either imprisoned, locked in a psychiatric hospital, slaughtered (through make-believe suicides) or discredited.
Why are we all in denial over these possibilities? Didn’t we hear about prison camps in Germany, and even in the United States during World War II? Japanese individuals were rounded up and placed in determent camps during the duration of the War. Where was their freedom?
You don’t think it could happen to you? Obviously those rounded up and killed didn’t think it could happen to them either. How could decent people have witnessed such atrocities and still said nothing? Are we going to do the same here as they cart off one by one those individuals who are taking a stand for the rights of the citizens as they expose the truth happening behind the scenes? Are we all going to sit there and wonder what happened to this country of ours? Where did we go wrong? How could we let it happen?
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Tommy Franks: Martial Law Will Replace Constitution After Next Terror Attack
Newsmax
Friday, Nov. 21, 2003
Gen. Tommy Franks says that if the United States is hit with a weapon of mass destruction that inflicts large casualties, the Constitution will likely be discarded in favor of a military form of government.
Franks, who successfully led the U.S. military operation to liberate Iraq, expressed his worries in an extensive interview he gave to the men's lifestyle magazine Cigar Aficionado.
In the magazine's December edition, the former commander of the military's Central Command warned that if terrorists succeeded in using a weapon of mass destruction (WMD) against the U.S. or one of our allies, it would likely have catastrophic consequences for our cherished republican form of government.
Discussing the hypothetical dangers posed to the U.S. in the wake of Sept. 11, Franks said that “the worst thing that could happen” is if terrorists acquire and then use a biological, chemical or nuclear weapon that inflicts heavy casualties.
If that happens, Franks said, “... the Western world, the free world, loses what it cherishes most, and that is freedom and liberty we've seen for a couple of hundred years in this grand experiment that we call democracy.”
Franks then offered “in a practical sense” what he thinks would happen in the aftermath of such an attack.
“It means the potential of a weapon of mass destruction and a terrorist, massive, casualty-producing event somewhere in the Western world – it may be in the United States of America – that causes our population to question our own Constitution and to begin to militarize our country in order to avoid a repeat of another mass, casualty-producing event. Which in fact, then begins to unravel the fabric of our Constitution. Two steps, very, very important.”
Franks didn't speculate about how soon such an event might take place.
Already, critics of the U.S. Patriot Act, rushed through Congress in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, have argued that the law aims to curtail civil liberties and sets a dangerous precedent.
But Franks' scenario goes much further. He is the first high-ranking official to openly speculate that the Constitution could be scrapped in favor of a military form of government.
The usually camera-shy Franks retired from U.S. Central Command, known in Pentagon lingo as CentCom, in August 2003, after serving nearly four decades in the Army.
Franks earned three Purple Hearts for combat wounds and three Bronze Stars for valor. Known as a “soldier's general,” Franks made his mark as a top commander during the U.S.'s successful Operation Desert Storm, which liberated Kuwait in 1991. He was in charge of CentCom when Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda attacked the United States on Sept. 11.
Franks said that within hours of the attacks, he was given orders to prepare to root out the Taliban in Afghanistan and to capture bin Laden.
Franks offered his assessment on a number of topics to Cigar Aficionado, including:
President Bush: “As I look at President Bush, I think he will ultimately be judged as a man of extremely high character. A very thoughtful man, not having been appraised properly by those who would say he's not very smart. I find the contrary. I think he's very, very bright. And I suspect that he'll be judged as a man who led this country through a crease in history effectively. Probably we'll think of him in years to come as an American hero.”
On the motivation for the Iraq war: Contrary to claims that top Pentagon brass opposed the invasion of Iraq, Franks said he wholeheartedly agreed with the president's decision to invade Iraq and oust Saddam Hussein.
“I, for one, begin with intent. ... There is no question that Saddam Hussein had intent to do harm to the Western alliance and to the United States of America. That intent is confirmed in a great many of his speeches, his commentary, the words that have come out of the Iraqi regime over the last dozen or so years. So we have intent.
“If we know for sure ... that a regime has intent to do harm to this country, and if we have something beyond a reasonable doubt that this particular regime may have the wherewithal with which to execute the intent, what are our actions and orders as leaders in this country?”
The Pentagon's deck of cards: Asked how the Pentagon decided to put its most-wanted Iraqis on a set of playing cards, Franks explained its genesis. He recalled that when his staff identified the most notorious Iraqis the U.S. wanted to capture, “it just turned out that the number happened to be about the same as a deck of cards. And so somebody said, ‘Aha, this will be the ace of spades.'”
Capturing Saddam: Franks said he was not surprised that Saddam has not been captured or killed. But he says he will eventually be found, perhaps sooner than Osama bin laden.
“The capture or killing of Saddam Hussein will be a near term thing. And I won't say that'll be within 19 or 43 days. ... I believe it is inevitable.”
Franks ended his interview with a less-than-optimistic note. “It's not in the history of civilization for peace ever to reign. Never has in the history of man. ... I doubt that we'll ever have a time when the world will actually be at peace.”
Newsmax
Friday, Nov. 21, 2003
Gen. Tommy Franks says that if the United States is hit with a weapon of mass destruction that inflicts large casualties, the Constitution will likely be discarded in favor of a military form of government.
Franks, who successfully led the U.S. military operation to liberate Iraq, expressed his worries in an extensive interview he gave to the men's lifestyle magazine Cigar Aficionado.
In the magazine's December edition, the former commander of the military's Central Command warned that if terrorists succeeded in using a weapon of mass destruction (WMD) against the U.S. or one of our allies, it would likely have catastrophic consequences for our cherished republican form of government.
Discussing the hypothetical dangers posed to the U.S. in the wake of Sept. 11, Franks said that “the worst thing that could happen” is if terrorists acquire and then use a biological, chemical or nuclear weapon that inflicts heavy casualties.
If that happens, Franks said, “... the Western world, the free world, loses what it cherishes most, and that is freedom and liberty we've seen for a couple of hundred years in this grand experiment that we call democracy.”
Franks then offered “in a practical sense” what he thinks would happen in the aftermath of such an attack.
“It means the potential of a weapon of mass destruction and a terrorist, massive, casualty-producing event somewhere in the Western world – it may be in the United States of America – that causes our population to question our own Constitution and to begin to militarize our country in order to avoid a repeat of another mass, casualty-producing event. Which in fact, then begins to unravel the fabric of our Constitution. Two steps, very, very important.”
Franks didn't speculate about how soon such an event might take place.
Already, critics of the U.S. Patriot Act, rushed through Congress in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, have argued that the law aims to curtail civil liberties and sets a dangerous precedent.
But Franks' scenario goes much further. He is the first high-ranking official to openly speculate that the Constitution could be scrapped in favor of a military form of government.
The usually camera-shy Franks retired from U.S. Central Command, known in Pentagon lingo as CentCom, in August 2003, after serving nearly four decades in the Army.
Franks earned three Purple Hearts for combat wounds and three Bronze Stars for valor. Known as a “soldier's general,” Franks made his mark as a top commander during the U.S.'s successful Operation Desert Storm, which liberated Kuwait in 1991. He was in charge of CentCom when Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda attacked the United States on Sept. 11.
Franks said that within hours of the attacks, he was given orders to prepare to root out the Taliban in Afghanistan and to capture bin Laden.
Franks offered his assessment on a number of topics to Cigar Aficionado, including:
President Bush: “As I look at President Bush, I think he will ultimately be judged as a man of extremely high character. A very thoughtful man, not having been appraised properly by those who would say he's not very smart. I find the contrary. I think he's very, very bright. And I suspect that he'll be judged as a man who led this country through a crease in history effectively. Probably we'll think of him in years to come as an American hero.”
On the motivation for the Iraq war: Contrary to claims that top Pentagon brass opposed the invasion of Iraq, Franks said he wholeheartedly agreed with the president's decision to invade Iraq and oust Saddam Hussein.
“I, for one, begin with intent. ... There is no question that Saddam Hussein had intent to do harm to the Western alliance and to the United States of America. That intent is confirmed in a great many of his speeches, his commentary, the words that have come out of the Iraqi regime over the last dozen or so years. So we have intent.
“If we know for sure ... that a regime has intent to do harm to this country, and if we have something beyond a reasonable doubt that this particular regime may have the wherewithal with which to execute the intent, what are our actions and orders as leaders in this country?”
The Pentagon's deck of cards: Asked how the Pentagon decided to put its most-wanted Iraqis on a set of playing cards, Franks explained its genesis. He recalled that when his staff identified the most notorious Iraqis the U.S. wanted to capture, “it just turned out that the number happened to be about the same as a deck of cards. And so somebody said, ‘Aha, this will be the ace of spades.'”
Capturing Saddam: Franks said he was not surprised that Saddam has not been captured or killed. But he says he will eventually be found, perhaps sooner than Osama bin laden.
“The capture or killing of Saddam Hussein will be a near term thing. And I won't say that'll be within 19 or 43 days. ... I believe it is inevitable.”
Franks ended his interview with a less-than-optimistic note. “It's not in the history of civilization for peace ever to reign. Never has in the history of man. ... I doubt that we'll ever have a time when the world will actually be at peace.”
sure, we need more vigilence against another war for the ruling class, but are you really expecting more than a couple dozen after the poor showing for the biotech conference.
get organized.
i think it's more important to support REAL struggles, not just activism for activism's sake. such as the nationwide independent truckers actions next week. there the ability of capitalists to realize profits is being monkeywrenched by possilbe blockades of shipping. that puts another dent in capital's ability to wage war more than a symbolic protest in the streets. no that these protest aren't important, but hasn't it been increasingly diminishing returns since march 20, 2003? each action or demo gets smaller and smaller and seemingly more insignificant. I'd love to be proven wrong, but shouldn't these things be better planned?
carl
get organized.
i think it's more important to support REAL struggles, not just activism for activism's sake. such as the nationwide independent truckers actions next week. there the ability of capitalists to realize profits is being monkeywrenched by possilbe blockades of shipping. that puts another dent in capital's ability to wage war more than a symbolic protest in the streets. no that these protest aren't important, but hasn't it been increasingly diminishing returns since march 20, 2003? each action or demo gets smaller and smaller and seemingly more insignificant. I'd love to be proven wrong, but shouldn't these things be better planned?
carl
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