5/12: Rally at the SF Police Commission for Cammerin Boyd

Stop Stop Stop. Not one more insane distortion of the facts. The man was "disabled" from a shoot out and chase with the CHP in 1993. He has a lifetime history of violence, guns, and crime. He fired at police. He died. He is not a victim.

If the "victim" had not died, he would be in jail on at least 5 counts of attempted murder on police officer and a whole host of other charges. The Court would address him as a Suspect not victim.

here are the results of my independent investigation.
boyd fired a gun at the police. the police shot and killed him. boyds mother can't get her face off of TV and van jones is being irrational as always.

Brother D, once again you could have saved the tax payers hundreds of thousands of dollars because that is exaclty what will be said after all the investigations are done.

I am appauled at the lack of compassion shown by the previous comments, this is a man that was killed and a mother that has lost her child. Cammerin's previous encounters with the police have nothing to do with whether or not it was a justified shooting, all that matters is whetther or not he was surrendering, and all accounts by witnesses say that he was.
Our justice system is so incredibly flawed and biased, I think it is dangerous for individuals to presume guilt based on ones background, especially when we know that men of color are particularly targeted by police. Cammerin may not have been an angel, but really how many of us are? How many of us have made mistakes, and feel comfortable saying that this gives the police permission at any point to shoot and kill? I am not comfortable with that.Before judging take a second and think about waht are the possiblities and the different stories that might have surrounded this story, besides what you have been fed by mainstream media and the police, how have every interest in protecting themselves and their reputation.

I must agree with you that his past was irrelevant. The Officers that night did not know that he was a violent career criminal. They did not know that two night’s prior he led the police on a high-speed chase. One would think that after over 50 arrests his mother would have let the suspect be held accountable for his actions. Unfortunately she bailed him out again. I understand her public rage and lying, I’m sure I would feel a little guilty too.
Lets look at what the Officers did know. The suspect just attempted to kidnap a woman and her young child at gunpoint. Why would he do this? To kill or rape them? The suspect then leads them on a wild chase. During the chase the suspect fires a gun at them. The suspect was now obviously trying to murder the Officers and had no regard for where his bullets landed. In fact one of the bullets was recovered after it went through a window of a house near where the suspect was spraying bullets. All of a sudden the suspect stops the car. Is this a trap? Why is he yelling for other people in the projects to help him kill the Officers? He continues yelling and ranting. A shot is heard from his car. Did the suspect shoot again at the Officers? The police return fire in an attempt to stop him from trying to kill them and any other citizens that might be in the area. The suspect begins to drive off again. Why? He then stops, gets out and continues yelling. He raises his hands, lowers them, takes his shirt off, and continues to ignore the Officers lawful orders. He then reaches in the car. Why? To get the gun and kill people? Again the police fire in order to protect themselves and other people in the area. If he would have pulled the gun out and shot somebody standing near by would you blame him or the police for not shooting him before he had a chance to kill that person? The threat to kill someone in that area by the suspect was ended when the police used justified force to stop that threat.
So you see, the police that night based their actions and what the suspect did that night, not on his past. The Officers had no idea who he was or his violent criminal past.
Also, I don't know where the people on these pages get the idea that a suspect must be holding a weapon or even facing the the police when they use justified deadly force. That is simply not true.

i agree with john q...the only thing that is appalling in this case is the residents who are lying about what they saw. if boyd was white, they would care less.