what is fair for palistine?

by earth boy

Tue, Jun 17, 2003 12:29AM

middle east conflict, & resolution

we have all heard the Israeli side of the negotiations...

now, what does Palestine consider to be a fair and impartial resolution to this conflict?

we have heard scattered demands but not an organized proposal for peace...what would it take for peace?

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§why Palestine

by todd

Tue, Jun 17, 2003 12:52AM

how do you explain the bombings that have taken place even as Palestine negotiates for peace.

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by bombing

Tue, Jun 17, 2003 2:55AM

i assume you mean the one, that HAMAS carried out after Apaches attempted to kill their spokesman.
The only other act of violence since the aqaba summit, so far at least, was an attack on a military installation instide the Gaza Strip. It included Arafat's militia, but i think would be considered military and not terrorist, seeing as no civilians were involved,
just as when Israel is seen to be killing a "senior militant leader" which they appear to be doing all the time (read Freidman's last Sunday article) it is legitimized completely in the American media.
The difference is that my tax $$$ does not go to HAMAS, but it does go to Israel.

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§Not so Fast I thought the thought the Palestine leaders

by Mr. T

Tue, Jun 17, 2003 7:11AM

Very interesting thought that Palestine leaders had aligned with Hitler during ww2. I believe that the Palestinians know that the Palestine would not be in the situation if Germany had won.

Zionist forces defeated Hitler. And the Palestine must pay the price.

Fact
Haj Amin al-Husseini, Yassir Arafat’s mentor, Mufti of Jerusalem from 1921-1936 and the father of Palestinian nationalism. For not only did al-Husseini engineer the bloody riots against Jews in 1929 and 1936, but he was directly involved in the mobilization of support for Nazis among Muslims. In 1941, the Mufti met personal with Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, Joachim Von Ribbentrop and numerous other Nazi leaders. al-Husseini, it turned out, was a conspicuously successful Nazi, recruiting 20,000 Muslim volunteers for the SS, many of which participated in the killing of Jews in Croatia and Hungary.

So their we go again around and around to what end you gloss over many things. Sure thousand of Palestinian’s die but millions of Jews died in ww2 and you helped them die. Pay back sucks.

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§"Palestine leaders had aligned with Hitler during ww2."

by history buff

Tue, Jun 17, 2003 9:24AM

Some Palestinian leaders aligned with Hitler during WWII. Others did not. Either way, most Palestinians aren't old enough to remember when JFK was shot. To punish them for what somebody did before they were born is rasism, plain and simple.

Also, keep in mind that some Zionist leaders also aligned with Hitler. Fieval Polkes, for example, was paid a regular salary by the SS.

See:

http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/04/120352_comment.php#120573

http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/05/127448_comment.php#127704

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§Thanks for the links

by Mr. T

Tue, Jun 17, 2003 9:58AM

Look I feel sorry for both sides. The author above my comment only showed one side that being Palestinian. When they are not clean of any wrong doing. However, Yassir Arafat’s mentor did work with Adolf Hitler and I was thinking this might be a problem for some Zionist. Think about it, that all.

I believe in a Palestinian state and believe that Israel needs to move back its borders (1967) and Jerusalem should be and international city under UN control.

However, once done the Palestinian should lose land for every Israel killed after that. This will contain Hammas form continuing on with the bombing campaigns after most Palestinians receive peace. The same holds true for Israel.

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