From the Open-Publishing Calendar
From the Open-Publishing Newswire
Indybay Feature
Arrests at Lawrence Livermore Lab
LIVERMORE -- About 300 anti-war, anti-nuclear activists gathered this Good Friday to protest the continued research and development of weapons of mass destruction at the Lawrence Livermore Nuclear Weapons Lab and to protest the Iraq war.
April 18, 2003
LIVERMORE -- About 300 anti-war, anti-nuclear activists gathered this Good Friday to protest the continued research and development of weapons of mass destruction at the Lawrence Livermore Nuclear Weapons Lab and to protest the Iraq war.
About 50 of the protesters put their bodies on the line to block one of the entrances to the lab and were arrested when they refused to budge. Officers in heavy pads with batons were ready to cart the peaceful protesters away to an outdoor holding pen at the lab for processing.
Faiths of all denominations as well as a smattering of atheists and agnostics, some holding pictures of maimed and killed children attended the annual rite.
Police attendance was larger than in previous years a according to long-time activists Jim Forsyth and Corine Thornton who have been coming to the annual event for, respectively, 20 and 14 years, "most likely due to the war in Iraq" said Thornton. They also said the crowd of protesters was larger as well.
Speakers from various peace and justice and interfaith groups spoke out on how the world can’t afford, either financially or morally, to continue to design and create nuclear weapons and called for a moratorium on their development.
One of the most powerful speeches came from Father Bill O’Donnell of St Joseph the Worker Church in Berkeley as he gave a vitriolic attack of the scientist’s work at the lab.
"At each of these meetings we know again that our gathering is far more vital than the kind of meeting these physicist do each day as they go about the devil’s work of creating and devising more devastating ways and methods of killing not hundreds, not thousands, but millions of innocent human beings. Each day coming to work for them is a fix to satisfy their addiction to violence." O’Donnell said.
O’Donnell continued, "What drives them to this macabre egomaniacal madness? It’s got to be some feeling about getting off doing their patriotic duty, plus being handsomely paid, so they can shed sentimental tears of pride at their grandchildren’s graduation from some PHD in physics graduate school."
When reflecting on the seeming futility of the protest to stop weapons development, O’Donnell opined, "We have been meeting here since 1980, 23 years ago, at least twice a year. The only thing we have been able to do is effect a name change from the politically incorrect Radiation Laboratory to the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, the home of these cultural Livermorons. One square mile factory of nuclear death and ruin."
But he did say that the protests do generate debate among the physicist and the community and have caused some physicist to leave the lab to pursue less destructive science.
Carolyn Scarr from the Ecumenical Peace Institute called the weapons being developed n the lab as the US’s trump card. "These are the weapons that maintain the American Empire, just like the Romans used the crucifixes as their trump card to intimidate the Christians, these weapons are used to intimidate the world."
One of the main concerns expressed at today’s protest was the lab’s directive to develop mini-nukes and bio-weapons. Marylia Kelley of TriValley CARES described work on the B83, a high-yield 1.2 megaton nuclear bomb otherwise known as a bunker buster as "incredibly dangerous."
"The United States is trying to create usable nuclear weapons. By doing so they would be breaking the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty. We need to preserve the ban on mini-nukes. If we don’t this it would be a desecration, a blasphemy against the world." Kelley said.
First time lab protester Sophia (last name withheld) from Castro Valley decided to get up early to attend because she wanted to be with others who are against the war. Though not religious she felt compelled to come to express her solidarity with the other protesters.
"I’m here today because I am so sad about what is going on in the world today. All the killing. I just want to be around other people who feel the same way I do."
LIVERMORE -- About 300 anti-war, anti-nuclear activists gathered this Good Friday to protest the continued research and development of weapons of mass destruction at the Lawrence Livermore Nuclear Weapons Lab and to protest the Iraq war.
About 50 of the protesters put their bodies on the line to block one of the entrances to the lab and were arrested when they refused to budge. Officers in heavy pads with batons were ready to cart the peaceful protesters away to an outdoor holding pen at the lab for processing.
Faiths of all denominations as well as a smattering of atheists and agnostics, some holding pictures of maimed and killed children attended the annual rite.
Police attendance was larger than in previous years a according to long-time activists Jim Forsyth and Corine Thornton who have been coming to the annual event for, respectively, 20 and 14 years, "most likely due to the war in Iraq" said Thornton. They also said the crowd of protesters was larger as well.
Speakers from various peace and justice and interfaith groups spoke out on how the world can’t afford, either financially or morally, to continue to design and create nuclear weapons and called for a moratorium on their development.
One of the most powerful speeches came from Father Bill O’Donnell of St Joseph the Worker Church in Berkeley as he gave a vitriolic attack of the scientist’s work at the lab.
"At each of these meetings we know again that our gathering is far more vital than the kind of meeting these physicist do each day as they go about the devil’s work of creating and devising more devastating ways and methods of killing not hundreds, not thousands, but millions of innocent human beings. Each day coming to work for them is a fix to satisfy their addiction to violence." O’Donnell said.
O’Donnell continued, "What drives them to this macabre egomaniacal madness? It’s got to be some feeling about getting off doing their patriotic duty, plus being handsomely paid, so they can shed sentimental tears of pride at their grandchildren’s graduation from some PHD in physics graduate school."
When reflecting on the seeming futility of the protest to stop weapons development, O’Donnell opined, "We have been meeting here since 1980, 23 years ago, at least twice a year. The only thing we have been able to do is effect a name change from the politically incorrect Radiation Laboratory to the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, the home of these cultural Livermorons. One square mile factory of nuclear death and ruin."
But he did say that the protests do generate debate among the physicist and the community and have caused some physicist to leave the lab to pursue less destructive science.
Carolyn Scarr from the Ecumenical Peace Institute called the weapons being developed n the lab as the US’s trump card. "These are the weapons that maintain the American Empire, just like the Romans used the crucifixes as their trump card to intimidate the Christians, these weapons are used to intimidate the world."
One of the main concerns expressed at today’s protest was the lab’s directive to develop mini-nukes and bio-weapons. Marylia Kelley of TriValley CARES described work on the B83, a high-yield 1.2 megaton nuclear bomb otherwise known as a bunker buster as "incredibly dangerous."
"The United States is trying to create usable nuclear weapons. By doing so they would be breaking the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty. We need to preserve the ban on mini-nukes. If we don’t this it would be a desecration, a blasphemy against the world." Kelley said.
First time lab protester Sophia (last name withheld) from Castro Valley decided to get up early to attend because she wanted to be with others who are against the war. Though not religious she felt compelled to come to express her solidarity with the other protesters.
"I’m here today because I am so sad about what is going on in the world today. All the killing. I just want to be around other people who feel the same way I do."
Add Your Comments
Comments
(Hide Comments)
It's about time to eliminate the WMD including ours. They don't deter terrorism. They'll only proliferate terror and destruction across the globe.
These pics of armed thugs of the gov't, confronting & threatening the unarmed & non-violent Peace activists, display to the World clearly that this is the version of "American Democracy" the illegal(not to mention morally-corrupt) Bush regime plans to impose on the Iraqi people, with the aid of guns, tanks and countless Weapons of Mass Destruction.
These pics may be even more powerful than those of the smashing of the Berlin Wall that corporate media had been showing "over and over again(in the words of Warlord Rumpsfelt)."
These pics may be even more powerful than those of the smashing of the Berlin Wall that corporate media had been showing "over and over again(in the words of Warlord Rumpsfelt)."
Well done. This article summarizes well the point of the protest at the Livermore Lab. It is a big part of a monster that feeds on our sweat and the bodies of nations. It must be stopped. See additional coverage at http://jwoodard.best.vwh.net/antiwar/livermore
For more information:
http://jwoodard.best.vwh.net
I think that protesters should try to make a distinction between research on weapons of mass destruction and scientific research in general. The comments made referring to all researchers at Livermore as "livermorons" and suggesting that all of the scientists come to work to satisfy a need for violence are misguided and uninformed. Yes, there are many research groups at Livermore that research the development and production of weapons of mass destruction. However, there are also groups at the facility that research environmental remediation, alternative energy, climate modeling, and disease prevention.
Protesting facilities that research weapons development is a necessary and laudable action. At the same time, it is important to be fully informed about the facility that you are targeting. Such information gives you the ability to target scientists involved in WMD research and encourage them to switch to other, less environmentally and socially damaging research fields. In addition, information about the specific research areas that we are targeting makes our message clearer when it is presented to the media, and informs the public.
Demonizing scientists in general is not the way to advance this cause.
Protesting facilities that research weapons development is a necessary and laudable action. At the same time, it is important to be fully informed about the facility that you are targeting. Such information gives you the ability to target scientists involved in WMD research and encourage them to switch to other, less environmentally and socially damaging research fields. In addition, information about the specific research areas that we are targeting makes our message clearer when it is presented to the media, and informs the public.
Demonizing scientists in general is not the way to advance this cause.
I applaud any and all efforts to condemn a facility, indeed a tribe and even a nation (my own) in it's
misguided and uninformed efforts to vaporize humanity. To "scientist" I say if you don't feel a part of the poision of WMD find another way to do the type of
research you and the world,not just an empire needs.
You may have to sell your BMW or send your kids to public school and in so doing wake up to the unintended legacy scientists and the corrupt,greedy
wannabe world rulers have earned with the peace community. Was Mr. Openheimer echoing the future?: "I have become death-destoryer of worlds" when lamenting his groups creation. Labeling oneself
"scientist" does not absolve one of any responsiblity for
the costs or benefits of such endeavors.
misguided and uninformed efforts to vaporize humanity. To "scientist" I say if you don't feel a part of the poision of WMD find another way to do the type of
research you and the world,not just an empire needs.
You may have to sell your BMW or send your kids to public school and in so doing wake up to the unintended legacy scientists and the corrupt,greedy
wannabe world rulers have earned with the peace community. Was Mr. Openheimer echoing the future?: "I have become death-destoryer of worlds" when lamenting his groups creation. Labeling oneself
"scientist" does not absolve one of any responsiblity for
the costs or benefits of such endeavors.
BMW? Try 12 year old Nissan with a rebuilt transmission.
Public Schools? Yep, all 12 years. Subsidized post-secondary.
Vacations? Sunny NJ.
Work week? 60+ hours.
Where, exactly, do you get your information from? Oh, right. Here. Nevermind then.
Public Schools? Yep, all 12 years. Subsidized post-secondary.
Vacations? Sunny NJ.
Work week? 60+ hours.
Where, exactly, do you get your information from? Oh, right. Here. Nevermind then.
obering realities never reached American TV screens during the recent U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, according to NBC News correspondent Ashleigh Banfield.
"We didn't see what happen when Marines fired M-16s," Banfield said during a Landon lecture appearance today at Kansas State University. "We didn't see what happened after mortars landed, only the puff of smoke. There were horrors that were completely left out of this war. So was this journalism? Or was this coverage?"
On the other hand, she said, many U.S. television viewers were treated to a non-stop flow of images presented by "cable news operators who wrap themselves in the American flag and go after a certain target demographic."
It was a grand and glorious picture that had a lot of people watching," Banfield said, "and a lot of advertisers excited about cable TV news. But it wasn't journalism, because I'm not sure Americans are hesitant to do this again -- to fight another war, because it looked to them like a courageous and terrific endeavor."
Banfield's appearance at KSU's McCain Auditorium marked the 129th speech in the long-running Landon Lecture series, which was established in 1966 by the late Kansas Gov. Alfred M. Landon.
In addition to her duties at NBC, Banfield also hosts the popular MSNBC cable TV news show, "MSNBC Investigates."
Until last fall, Banfield anchored her own MSNBC news program, "Ashleigh Banfield: On Location," a program that included a stop last summer in Manhattan, where the Canadian-born host interviewed KSU experts who have developed methods to protect the nation's food supply from potential bioterrorism threats.
Since 9-11, Banfield has frequently reported news stories relating to the Bush administration's "war on terrorism" from the Middle East, including Afghanistan, Iraq, Israel Syria and Lebanon.
In her lecture, Banfield noted inconsistences in the Bush administration's announced war aims in Iraq, beginning with the original U.S. pre-war contention that Iraqi tyrant Saddam Hussein's alleged stockpile of chemical and biological weapons posed a serious international threat.
"Conveniently, in the week or two we were in there, it became a message of 'freeing the Iraqi people,'" Banfield said. "That should have been the message early on, in fact, six to eight months preceding this campaign, if we were trying to win over the hearts of the Arab world."
According to Banfield, U.S. broadcasters do not accurately inform the American public of the basic reason behind widespread Islamic distrust of the U.S. -- the American government's continued unwillingness to treat Israelis and Palestinians as equal partners in the future of Israel.
"As a journalist, I have been ostracized just from going on television and saying, 'Here's what the leaders of Hezbollah, a radical Moslem group, are telling me about what is needed to bring peace to Israel,'" she said. "And, 'Here's what the Lebanese are saying.' Like it or lump it, don't shoot the messenger, but that's what they do."
An audience of about 500 attended Banfield's lecture, the last event in this season's Landon Lecture series.
"We didn't see what happen when Marines fired M-16s," Banfield said during a Landon lecture appearance today at Kansas State University. "We didn't see what happened after mortars landed, only the puff of smoke. There were horrors that were completely left out of this war. So was this journalism? Or was this coverage?"
On the other hand, she said, many U.S. television viewers were treated to a non-stop flow of images presented by "cable news operators who wrap themselves in the American flag and go after a certain target demographic."
It was a grand and glorious picture that had a lot of people watching," Banfield said, "and a lot of advertisers excited about cable TV news. But it wasn't journalism, because I'm not sure Americans are hesitant to do this again -- to fight another war, because it looked to them like a courageous and terrific endeavor."
Banfield's appearance at KSU's McCain Auditorium marked the 129th speech in the long-running Landon Lecture series, which was established in 1966 by the late Kansas Gov. Alfred M. Landon.
In addition to her duties at NBC, Banfield also hosts the popular MSNBC cable TV news show, "MSNBC Investigates."
Until last fall, Banfield anchored her own MSNBC news program, "Ashleigh Banfield: On Location," a program that included a stop last summer in Manhattan, where the Canadian-born host interviewed KSU experts who have developed methods to protect the nation's food supply from potential bioterrorism threats.
Since 9-11, Banfield has frequently reported news stories relating to the Bush administration's "war on terrorism" from the Middle East, including Afghanistan, Iraq, Israel Syria and Lebanon.
In her lecture, Banfield noted inconsistences in the Bush administration's announced war aims in Iraq, beginning with the original U.S. pre-war contention that Iraqi tyrant Saddam Hussein's alleged stockpile of chemical and biological weapons posed a serious international threat.
"Conveniently, in the week or two we were in there, it became a message of 'freeing the Iraqi people,'" Banfield said. "That should have been the message early on, in fact, six to eight months preceding this campaign, if we were trying to win over the hearts of the Arab world."
According to Banfield, U.S. broadcasters do not accurately inform the American public of the basic reason behind widespread Islamic distrust of the U.S. -- the American government's continued unwillingness to treat Israelis and Palestinians as equal partners in the future of Israel.
"As a journalist, I have been ostracized just from going on television and saying, 'Here's what the leaders of Hezbollah, a radical Moslem group, are telling me about what is needed to bring peace to Israel,'" she said. "And, 'Here's what the Lebanese are saying.' Like it or lump it, don't shoot the messenger, but that's what they do."
An audience of about 500 attended Banfield's lecture, the last event in this season's Landon Lecture series.
Just to clarify for "war hater"...
I do not work on weapons-based research - in fact, I research mechanisms related to cancer.
I *do* support protests against facilities that research weapons of mass destruction - I've been to the same protests that you have, and I agree that it's important to make a stand. I'm just asking that we all take the time to inform ourselves about the research that goes on in each facility that we protest. I feel that the Lockheed Martin protest was incredibly well done for several reasons:
1. The protesters were very clear about the reasons for targeting Lockheed Martin, and distributed a flyer with information detailing which specific weapons were manufactured there in violation of international law.
2. The protesters targeted the corporation rather than the workers. One of the goals of the protest was to inform employees about the company they worked for, and then encourage them to switch to other companies or research areas.
I do not work on weapons-based research - in fact, I research mechanisms related to cancer.
I *do* support protests against facilities that research weapons of mass destruction - I've been to the same protests that you have, and I agree that it's important to make a stand. I'm just asking that we all take the time to inform ourselves about the research that goes on in each facility that we protest. I feel that the Lockheed Martin protest was incredibly well done for several reasons:
1. The protesters were very clear about the reasons for targeting Lockheed Martin, and distributed a flyer with information detailing which specific weapons were manufactured there in violation of international law.
2. The protesters targeted the corporation rather than the workers. One of the goals of the protest was to inform employees about the company they worked for, and then encourage them to switch to other companies or research areas.
The single event that triggered the establishment of Lawrence Livermore was detonation of the first Russian atomic bomb in 1949. Some American scientists were alarmed that the Soviets could advance quickly to the next step, the hydrogen bomb, with potential disaster for the West. Ernest Lawrence was a key participant in the World War II atomic bomb project at Los Alamos, a Nobel laureate, and founder of the University of California Radiation Laboratory at Berkeley. Edward Teller, was a brilliant physicist at the Los Alamos nuclear weapons laboratory. They met in October of 1949 to discuss the Russian threat.
It was essential, Teller came to believe in the course of the next several years, to start a second nuclear weapons laboratory—to provide competition, to diversify expertise, to handle the large volume of work that future fast-breaking discoveries would bring. Lawrence supported Teller's proposal for a second weapons lab, and he wanted it established at Livermore. Moreover, he wanted Teller to oversee setting up the new lab.
Teller presented his case to Atomic Energy Commission Chairman Gordon Dean on April 4, 1951 in Washington, D.C. In July 1952, formal Atomic Energy Commission action created the Livermore branch of the UC Radiation Laboratory. In September, this second weapons laboratory opened its doors at the site of a former naval air station, in the sleepy cow town of Livermore, California. Among the group of young Berkeley scientists who were working with Lawrence was 32-year-old Herbert F. York. Barely three years out of graduate school, York was singled out by Lawrence to head the new laboratory.
York set out to develop the Lab's program and created four main elements: Project Sherwood (the Magnetic Fusion Program), diagnostic weapon experiments (both for Los Alamos and Livermore), the design of thermonuclear weapons, and a basic physics program. The first two facilities were a building to house the latest electronic computer, a Univac, and a technology building with a large central bay for lifting heavy equipment.
The focus of the Lab in the early days was on national needs and technical opportunities. Experts in chemistry, physics, and engineering had a common understanding of the Laboratory's mission, and developed new technologies on their own. But along with this went the team effort to understand a problem and to work it out together.
Over the following five decades, this new facility was destined to be a competitor of Los Alamos in the development of U.S. nuclear deterrents. Livermore was also to become one of the world's premier scientific centers, using its knowledge of nuclear science and engineering to break new ground in energy, computations, biomedicine, and environmental science. The Laboratory's 50th anniversary celebration in 2002 highlighted how Lawrence Livermore has been making history and making a difference.
http://www.llnl.gov/llnl/02about-llnl/history.html
It was essential, Teller came to believe in the course of the next several years, to start a second nuclear weapons laboratory—to provide competition, to diversify expertise, to handle the large volume of work that future fast-breaking discoveries would bring. Lawrence supported Teller's proposal for a second weapons lab, and he wanted it established at Livermore. Moreover, he wanted Teller to oversee setting up the new lab.
Teller presented his case to Atomic Energy Commission Chairman Gordon Dean on April 4, 1951 in Washington, D.C. In July 1952, formal Atomic Energy Commission action created the Livermore branch of the UC Radiation Laboratory. In September, this second weapons laboratory opened its doors at the site of a former naval air station, in the sleepy cow town of Livermore, California. Among the group of young Berkeley scientists who were working with Lawrence was 32-year-old Herbert F. York. Barely three years out of graduate school, York was singled out by Lawrence to head the new laboratory.
York set out to develop the Lab's program and created four main elements: Project Sherwood (the Magnetic Fusion Program), diagnostic weapon experiments (both for Los Alamos and Livermore), the design of thermonuclear weapons, and a basic physics program. The first two facilities were a building to house the latest electronic computer, a Univac, and a technology building with a large central bay for lifting heavy equipment.
The focus of the Lab in the early days was on national needs and technical opportunities. Experts in chemistry, physics, and engineering had a common understanding of the Laboratory's mission, and developed new technologies on their own. But along with this went the team effort to understand a problem and to work it out together.
Over the following five decades, this new facility was destined to be a competitor of Los Alamos in the development of U.S. nuclear deterrents. Livermore was also to become one of the world's premier scientific centers, using its knowledge of nuclear science and engineering to break new ground in energy, computations, biomedicine, and environmental science. The Laboratory's 50th anniversary celebration in 2002 highlighted how Lawrence Livermore has been making history and making a difference.
http://www.llnl.gov/llnl/02about-llnl/history.html
Edward Teller's desire to build the H bomb was not sufficiently supported by Robert Oppenheimer, so Teller helped brand Oppenheimer as a Communist and had him banned from scientific research. Since few of the scientists at Los Alamos would work with Teller (who was seen as underhanded and opportunistic), LLNL recruited a new batch of scientists and Livermore became the world center of WMD production.
LLNL was established for the production of the most destructive weapons the world has ever known and it was done so at the expense of its workers. LLNL's very establishment was an affront to both humanity AND scientists.
LLNL was established for the production of the most destructive weapons the world has ever known and it was done so at the expense of its workers. LLNL's very establishment was an affront to both humanity AND scientists.
About the whole "killer cops" thing, and the lab guards looking like storm troopers-- in 1987 a peace activist detonated a car bomb in Sandia Lab's parking lot (across the street from LLNL). The blast left a 3 foot crater, shattered windows, and deafened a secutity guard. Click on the below link for more info.
So, can you blame the guards for wearing riot gear?
Sigh.. The pictures and comments of the guards make it look like this was a roaming band of storm troopers out to bust some heads. In reality, the guards stood quietly at the line, making sure nobody stormed the lab. While the organizers certainly had no violent intentions, you never know who's going to show up in the crowd.
So, can you blame the guards for wearing riot gear?
Sigh.. The pictures and comments of the guards make it look like this was a roaming band of storm troopers out to bust some heads. In reality, the guards stood quietly at the line, making sure nobody stormed the lab. While the organizers certainly had no violent intentions, you never know who's going to show up in the crowd.
For more information:
http://www.dailyreviewonline.com/Stories/0...
But aren't some scientists really demons? At least as close as a human can come to being one? and aren't some carpenters, chefs, teachers, and doctors really cruel S.O.B.s?
At the foundation of every corporation are humans. Humans make the decisions. I have had the opportunity to speak candidly with nuclear weapons researchers concerning the moral decisions that they are making for the world. Their response about the rigors of "science" etc etc are similiar to what you have posted here, probably why you have been mistaken for one. As a scientist, I find the arguments for continued research on nuclear (and chemical and biological) weapons to be irrational.
Furthermore, while I do not advocate the use of violence in protest of weapons research or any other reason, it is ridiculous to say that employees of firms building the weapons are not morally culpable. (although, i will grant you that scientists working on other peaceful projects are not responsible for the actions of other scientists working down the hall.) It is absurd to even try to pretend that any employee at Lawrence Livermore is in the dark about the work being done there!!! Give me a break!! They work inside an ARMED COMPOUND that is surrounded by BARBED WIRE!
According to the lines of your argument, you seem to be saying that no one can be held responsible for the promotion of nuclear weapons. If the corportation is to be held responsible, who is that? the scientists "workers" are the ones who are the most directly responsible for their work. Nuclear weapons researchers are
SCABS who cross picket lines every day to work to create big death machines to kill all of the other workers on planet earth.
At the foundation of every corporation are humans. Humans make the decisions. I have had the opportunity to speak candidly with nuclear weapons researchers concerning the moral decisions that they are making for the world. Their response about the rigors of "science" etc etc are similiar to what you have posted here, probably why you have been mistaken for one. As a scientist, I find the arguments for continued research on nuclear (and chemical and biological) weapons to be irrational.
Furthermore, while I do not advocate the use of violence in protest of weapons research or any other reason, it is ridiculous to say that employees of firms building the weapons are not morally culpable. (although, i will grant you that scientists working on other peaceful projects are not responsible for the actions of other scientists working down the hall.) It is absurd to even try to pretend that any employee at Lawrence Livermore is in the dark about the work being done there!!! Give me a break!! They work inside an ARMED COMPOUND that is surrounded by BARBED WIRE!
According to the lines of your argument, you seem to be saying that no one can be held responsible for the promotion of nuclear weapons. If the corportation is to be held responsible, who is that? the scientists "workers" are the ones who are the most directly responsible for their work. Nuclear weapons researchers are
SCABS who cross picket lines every day to work to create big death machines to kill all of the other workers on planet earth.
We are 100% volunteer and depend on your participation to sustain our efforts!
Get Involved
If you'd like to help with maintaining or developing the website, contact us.
Publish
Publish your stories and upcoming events on Indybay.
Topics
More
Search Indybay's Archives
Advanced Search
►
▼
IMC Network