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Venezuela, January 19th, 2003

by Trastor (interfaz [at] cantv.net)
CocaCola - Polar - TV brainwashing - Bolivarians Hacked.
In Venezuela the brainwashing by the media is working hard still. Coca-Cola and Polar companies are broadciasting anounces on TV channels in which they state that Chavez's moves to take by military force its warehouses and depots full of sodas and beers to give it to poors -like Robin Hood perhaps?-, is an "another" "anti-democratic" move by our President.

What I don't understand is that instead of taking food to poors, Chavez is giving Coca-Cola and Polar Beers...

Another matter is that women of the middle class opposing Chavez were hardly hit by soldiers during this CocaCola and Polar actions. The General of the National Guard Acosta Carles is the commander of these attacks to women oposing Chavez orders to take beers and cocacolas by the force.

As always in political struggles in Venezuela, poors need to drink beers at any cost, it seems.

Also, the opposition to Chavez is brodcasting TV ads in which they say: "Which Venezuela do you want to WATCH?" a democratic one without Chavez or a military one ruled by this "monster".

Why they don't say: "In which Venezuela do you want to LIVE?", it is a very illustrating ad, the opposition will not give us a Venezuela to live in democracy, but a Venezuela in which TV can show us their lies about democracy, that's clear to me, that's the reason why they are saying: "Which venezuela do you want to WATCH?"

The "Middle Class in Positive", a bolivarian organization supporting Chavez, and another bolivarian organizations are saying that their emails are being hacked, I guess about INTESA experts behind this hacking activities, INTESA was the computer company in charge of controlling all PDVSA's computer techonology.

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by Trastor Antycopyright addict
Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 7:05:14 PM
By: Oscar Heck
Opposition maneuvers to disinform on siezures of hoarded foodstocks
According to local news broadcasts, Friday, the Venezuelan National
Guard (GN) began taking over foodstuff, bottled water, soft drink
and beer (Polar and Regional) warehouses/factories that were
hoarding inventory that would ... under normal circumstances ...
already be on the market.
However, what was patently ignored in all the publicity given the
event around the world was that the procedure was accomplished with
explicit court orders (based on charges of hoarding -- a common
practice mostly ignored by former Venezuelan regimes), the GN
(accompanied by a judicial witness and a representative from the
Official Ombudsman's Office) presented themselves at the locations
to take control of the redistribution of the illegally retained
products. How and when the distribution of these products will begin
is still to be seen.
According to a manager ay one of these operations, hoarding is not
taking place, since the warehouse only contained about a half
million liters of assorted beverages.
Another interesting item regarding these recent events is that
Coca-Cola/Panamco (the local Cisneros Group owners) and Empresas
Polar (the Mendoza family) began broadcasting a written statement
thanking the Venezuelan public for supporting them in these hard
times, claiming that they have been doing their best to faithfully
serve Venezuelans as they have always done and tried to do...
Panamco produces bottled water and amongst other things, Coca-Cola
while Empresas Polar produces (again amongst other things) Polar
beer and "malta" (a popular sweet beverage) as well as Harina PAN
maize flour ... a basic Venezuelan staple.
According to government representatives, the GN will continue to
take over those industries that have been illegally closed and are
clearly suspect of hoarding huge quantities of foodstuffs from
public consumption ... all with the proper court procedures and
documents.
Readers abroad should note that industrial hoarding of basic
foodstuffs has historically been one of the major instigators of
mass riots ... the last occurrence in Venezuela was under the
corrupt Presidency of Accion Democratica (AD) Carlos Andres Perez in
February 1989, leaving an estimated 2,000 dead.

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From Trastor: Vheadline fails to mention that Gral. Acosta Carle with his soldiers hit very hard several woman of the opposition during this events. It was a case for human rights.

Polar company is using transgenic maize in their "Harina Pan" (maize flour), so togheter with beers they are giving transgenic maize to poors.
by Trastor
I wonder if it is possible for VHeadline to show a photocopy of the legal documents mentioned in the article (the court documents), everything they say is based on their word alone, I confess that also me don't show proof, we are reading only the words of somebody else, also in my writings.

As a constructive critic, Vheadline must show more proof for their articles, it is not an idea against them, but for them to be more powerful in those news about Venezuela.

In this information war more proof is needed.

Trastor

by John Lattke
A Revolution without Coca-Cola is like a day without sunshine.

In the course of the strike aimed against Venezuelan President Chavez supermarket shelves have progressively lost their diversity of products and some staple foods, such as corn meal for arepas, have become scarce. Food processors guaranteed continued production of basic items but distribution has been hampered by lack of fuel and certain raw materials, and increasing lawlessness which makes many truckers think twice before attempting to deliver goods. The President publicly promised to find stockpiles of such items and promptly put them into the hands of consumers and imprison the speculators.

As is the norm for this administration, the military were to carry out the "search and distribute" mission. The first confiscations were directed at a distributor of Coca-Cola, and at a distributor of beer. Such confiscations are regulated by the law but in these cases legal procedures were totally eschewed, overridden by the President's orders. Company employees that resisted and protesters were given rough treatment by the men in green: machete swats (using the flat part of the blade), punches, kicks, and tear gas. One trooper slammed a woman's head against the concrete, knocking her unconscious next to a tear gas canister pouring out its contents. The General in charge of operations demonstrated his satisfaction with the operation by taking a long draught of a confiscated drink and simulating a loud belch for the benefit of TV audiences.

Those worried investors fearing the Bolivarian Revolution is anti-globalization can rest assured this government will enforce availability of Coca-Cola. My condolences to anti-globalization activists. Champions of equal rights for men and women can take heart in the unbiassed brutality shown by Venezuelan National Guard. Never mind the lecherous behavior of the General with women reporters. The injured were probably members of the fascist middle-class anyway so who cares? Details such as the rule of law, human rights, the Constitution and decency are trivial when the masses demand beer and soft-drinks. The Bolivarian Government delivers!

by Trastor Sorry
...to scape from media brainwashing...
Trastor Sorry

From another Vheadlines news...

...."That shouldn't have been hard, but
in the streets were women dressed in tight black t-shirts and black
pants that molded their bodies.
The shirts had the words WOMEN, an X and VENEZULA boldly printed
on their backs.
They came running down the street and threw themselves at the
National Guardsmen ... one guardsman pulled out his flat-sided sword
... another pulled one of the women off one of his companions and
pushed her roughly to the side ... she fell ... her supporters
rushed into the ring to pull her away ... it was hard to tell if she
was more beaten up by the Guardsmen or by those who were pulling her
away."......

............."Having written all of this, please don't misunderstand me. I am not
defending the General's joking attitude about the whole matter ...
neither did I see anything particularly beautiful in the response of
a women dressed in black and those who accompanied them ... both
lacked a decorum that I would have preferred. As I said, I don't
like professional wrestling. "............
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Entire article:

Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 9:49:13 AM
By: Charles Hardy
The Coca-Cola professional wrestling show ... BURP!
VHeadline.com commentarist Charles Hardy writes: I had mixed
feelings yesterday as I watched General Luis Felipe Acosta Carlez
raid the Coca-Cola bottling plant in the state of Carabobo.
First, I didn't know how to react because I seldom watch more than a
few seconds of a professional wrestling match and Friday's
television coverage had all the elements of one. In the center of
the ring was General Acosta Carlez, as close to a Jesse Ventura as
you could come. (For those who do not live in the United States,
Jesse Ventura is a professional wrestler who became governor of the
state of Minnesota).
There was the General, surrounding by microphones standing in front
of skyscrapers of Coca-Cola and Regional Beer in a country where
these products have been denied the consumer for over a month. He
was there to free "The Blond" ... that's the publicity name the
company has given their brand of beer. The country is saturated with
photos of an almost naked blond woman selling the product. What a
setting to surround the ring in which to begin the match!
Then, when he drank one of the products and burped, wow! I've never
seen that in a Coke ad before. If you were in a barrio you had to
roar with laughter. If you were a member of the opposition you had
to be offended by the violation of the great symbol of American
enterprise. The General was enjoying every moment in front of the
cameras.
Then came the moment to cut the chains on the gate of the factory to
liberate the trucks, hidden in the warehouse, which were full of the
products of the bottling plant. That shouldn't have been hard, but
in the streets were women dressed in tight black t-shirts and black
pants that molded their bodies.
The shirts had the words WOMEN, an X and VENEZULA boldly printed
on their backs.
They came running down the street and threw themselves at the
National Guardsmen ... one guardsman pulled out his flat-sided sword
... another pulled one of the women off one of his companions and
pushed her roughly to the side ... she fell ... her supporters
rushed into the ring to pull her away ... it was hard to tell if she
was more beaten up by the Guardsmen or by those who were pulling her
away.
Then a teargas canister was thrown ... it didn't go where it
should have gone, so a Guardsman kicked it in another direction
... someone from the opposition kicked it back ... another
guardsman kicked it again ... the crowd was screaming and the
cameras were rolling ... it was professional wrestling at its
best.
And it was also sad.
For months to come, the world is going to be plagued with scenes
from this show, and it is going to be hard for most people to
understand what was behind it.
So let me share the second reason why I had mixed feelings about
what happened Friday.
I think the timing for the event was bad ... the CORE 1 General
should have waited until there were sufficient container ships down
at the Puerto Cabello port to ship all the Coca-Cola and other
products back to the United States, instead of planning to
distribute them to the Venezuelan public.
You've got it ... I have a deep dislike for the product ... to me,
in Venezuela, it is a symbol of a dictatorship.
When I first came to Venezuela in 1985, it was almost impossible to
buy Coca-Cola. It was maybe the only country in the world where this
was true. There was only Pepsi-Cola. It was frustrating for me
because I could have pronounced Coca-Cola perfectly but it took me
months before people could understand me when I asked for a Pepsi.
Here it is pronounced "Peksi,"with a "k" instead of a "p." If I
said "cola"they gave me a "Kolita" which is a bubblegum-flavored
soft drink and which I don't like.
So I had to learn how to say "Peksi"correctly ... there was no
Coca-Cola.
The reason? The Cisneros group of enterprises had the Pepsi-Cola
franchise and for some strange reason Coca-Cola hadn't been able to
make an impact on the Venezuelan market.
But, one day in the mid=nineties, everything changed.
In my memory, it took place in less than a week ... suddenly there
was no Pepsi-Cola in the country, only Coca-Cola. The trucks were
all re-painted ... the Pepsi-Cola advertisements disappeared ... the
red, white and blues of Pepsi were replaced by the glaring red of
Coke ... I read that Kentucky Fried Chicken had a contract to serve
only Pepsi-Cola, so they had to fly it in from Miami.
Incredible? You got it.
After forty years of allegiance to Pepsi, the Cisneros had decided
they liked Coke better ... and all the Venezuelan people were going
to like it better, too. Bakeries and grocery stores were given new
signs and storefronts that proclaimed the product. In return, they
promised to sell only Coke products.
When Pepsi did begin to return, it was hard to buy it. I would ask
in a bakery if they had Pepsi and the clerk would respond, "Yes."
Then she would go to a back room or pull it out from under the
counter. They didn't want to violate the code that had been imposed
on them. It seems to me that there was an ex-Cuban who was president
of Coca-Cola in the United States at that time.
Yesterday in Miami, there was a march of ex-Cubans in support of the
government opposition in Venezuela. What are the ties between
ex-Cubans in the US and the Venezuelans living there?
Do ex-Cubans drink more Coca-Cola than Pepsi-Cola?
These would be some interesting items for the Associated Press to
check out at this moment instead just parroting what the opposition
want them to say about the event.
But, I don't want to be too hard on Coca-Cola ... because the
General then went to the other major bottling plant and liberated
the Pepsi-Cola and Polar beer there also. So I don't want to give
the impression there is only one bad guy in this scenario. The Polar
group also produces the major brand of cornmeal flour ... this, too,
has disappeared from the market and is much more important to the
Venezuelan diet than soft drinks. (Possibly it is also more
important than beer, although this might be disputed.)
To justify themselves, the companies say that they didn't have
gasoline to distribute the products, but the scarcity of them
began before there was a shortage of gasoline.
Having written all of this, please don't misunderstand me. I am not
defending the General's joking attitude about the whole matter ...
neither did I see anything particularly beautiful in the response of
a women dressed in black and those who accompanied them ... both
lacked a decorum that I would have preferred. As I said, I don't
like professional wrestling.
So where does this lead us?
The other day, a friend mentioned that he was at the UCV (Central
Venezuelan of University) and became thirsty. He was told that there
was only pineapple juice so he ordered a glass. He said, "It's been
a couple of years since I last drank fresh pineapple juice ... I had
forgotten how delicious it is."
Venezuela has some of the most delicious fruit drinks in the world
... if you have never tasted a Venezuelan passion fruit, watermelon,
or cantaloupe drink, you don't know what you're missing. They're
excellent. But, unfortunately, in many homes, they have been
replaced by chemically-produced soft drinks.
Maybe now the situation might change.
I guess this "peaceful revolution" in Venezuela has dimensions that
I never dreamt of ... the time has come to say good-bye to Coca-Cola
and Pepsi-Cola.
Venezuela, and the world, really don't need them.
Yes, my friends, the General's timing was also bad ... there simply
were not enough ships down at the port.
This is an interesting quote from the article:

"After forty years of allegiance to Pepsi, the Cisneros had decided they liked Coke better ... and all the Venezuelan people were going to like it better, too."

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by Roberto Mateu
I am sorry, the article is an insult to anybody that saw the video of what happen..In any country that respects itself. A National Guard that forces itself to a private property, throws out of the premises the legal representative of the company, grabs an item of the inventory and drinks it can not be said that it is legal. Neither in Venezuela. What they did was a vulgar armed robbery Don't be confused.

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by Pedro Manzano (pedrom [at] supercable.com)
The woman the National Guards pushed down is in an intensive care unit, for those who take this frivously. Most experts and international commentators agree that Chavez, by means of this actions, lose the points he has hardly earned in the international arena. With or without intention he showed his true face: a gorilla, a would-be dictator, promoting a Constitution everybody must comply except him and his government. Now he wants to “kick the table” of negotiation and agreement; expand the Group of Friends so it is a group of his friends and says he does not negotiate with an opposition he just discovered is “coup monger” and fascist, despite the fact that he has been negotiating with it for more than two months.

The Venezuelan struggle is not one of right vs left; black vs white; poor vs rich. That’s just an achievement of Chavist propaganda. The fight in Venezuela is one between democratic forces vs. a democratically elected government more totalitarian each day; between a western vision of a country and a communist one, inspired on Mao (the never-ending war). Make no mistake, Chavez is not a democrat (that besides his regime’s record-breaking corruption and incompetence).
by Trastor Nation
Commentaries, chat , updates...

Beer commentary

I watch with my own eyes yesterday Chavez saying to his followers on VTV-8-Chavez media that poors needs beers, he himself said it, not me. And since I watch this on VTV-8 his own channel, then it is true that he said it.

If people don't believe me Chavez said so, then the ones who watch that yesterday night at VTV-8 will know is true, at least they will know is true.

The one and only idea of my article regarding the part of the beers, is that by my experience in Venezuela, as a venezuelan myself, is that always the political reunions are full of beers, they are more a party than a meeting,
with loud music to dance between speeches, etc, and beer usually is paid by the political party hosting the mass of peoples gathered for a political meeting, and we venezuelans drink a lot. In fact, I think parents and stepfathers of poors and middle class children of venezuela are suffering more for a lack of beer than any other thing in this crisis of shortage of food, gasoline, education, etc, in venezuela now.

I know that in all that masses of peoples Chavez takes to Caracas to support him, always beers are present, also rum and agua-ardiente, alcohol is no good in excess, but it is the way political massive meetings of the opposition and the goverment are handled, and high rank meetings too, Chavez and the headmen drink old scotch!, of course because is more expensive and they can afford, but alcohol in the end. Maybe that's why everybody is so radical always, they're drunk!, look at most radical bolivarian front line of attack: LINA RON (ron in spanish is rum)

In Venezuelan culture, beers are a must, I know in the flesh we are suffering more for the lack of beers than food, specially in the poors.

Here in Santa Elena de Uairen, a small venezuelan frontier town where I live, polar and regional disapeared a month ago, and only imported beers from Brazil and Mejico are sold, very expensive, 150% more than a normal beer, but I see as almost every indian buy it anyway, and also I have witnessed these low income salary indigenous and non-indigenous persons buying 2 and 3 boxes of imported beers at a time, i saw that in a liqour
store near my home.

Trastor

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To Mr. Roberto Mateu:
I think what "Polar mendozas" with their transgenic corn bussiness,
environmental greenwashing and beer campaign to get all venezuelans drunk
over decades; and Cisneros media TV empire and cocacola business has stolen
from our venezuelan peoples in lots of years, even from you if you are
venezuelan -without your notice, is much more than what military took for
poors now, so better vote for Chavez if this crazy situation ends by bad
luck in early elections in Venezuela.
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To Bachaco: we fighters for freedom against globalization in Venezuela know
Chavez needs some hard critics too, but opposition leaders are worst...
Please go here:
http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/12/1552078_comment.php
and here:
http://www.indybay.org/news/2003/01/1559687.php
to learn more
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HACKERS WAR - VENEZUELA
ELECTRONIC WAR / UPDATE
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I have seen Chavez again speaking in his Chavez-media VTV-8 few minutes ago,
he talked about unkown hackers doing computers sabotage of PDVSA new
control rooms and the goverment computers itself, he has declared ELECTRONIC
WAR IN VENEZUELA commanding to venezuelan "Army Electronic War Branch" to
take over all data communications in Venezuela now to investigate what is
happening and to take actions against electronic sabotage.

Trastor

P.S. Last minute update:
Pedro manzano: your email says supercable?, supercable is a private television network in venezuela, no? without commentaries...
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by christof weber (christof-weber [at] web.de)
It is not a particular trait of dictatorships that following the law is enforced by government authorities; but in dictatorships the authorities have not been elected.
And be sure that if you get into the way of law enforcement authorities in the USA (e.g.) you will surely be treated with consequences much more severy than being pushed aside.
As to the legitimacy of the Bridgadier's action you should consider the following:

Facts in the infamous Coca Cola story:

Panamco de Venezuela is the distributor of Coca Cola in Venezuela. Its factory and warehouse in the industrial zone of Valencia (Carabobo State) had been closed since December 2 in support of the anti-government stoppage.

Brigadier General Luis Felipe Acosta Carlez is C-i-C of Regional Command N? 2 of the Venezuelan National Guard (GN).

Elba de Diamante was thrown to the ground in an intermezzo with the GN as she protested the legal action to remove the hoarded goods from the factory. GN soldiers had had to use tear gas to clear a way through to the factory gates because the demonstrators would not obey a lawful order to disperse. Eduardo Santander says he was trampled upon, injuring his right foot.

GN law enforcement officers were seen to draw their 9 mm regulation pistols in some situations where they were threatened by demonstrators for more than two hours.

Brigadier General Acosta Carlez arrived at the scene with reinforcements at 9:45 a.m. to ensure that orders were carried out under the inspection of the Institute for the Defense & Education of Consumers (INDECU) - the consumer watchdog -- which has inspected the premises just two days previously.

Indecu has issued an order to Panamco to distribute the goods within 48 hours or face charges of illegal hoarding under the Venezuelan Consumer Protection Law. Products listed were Coca Cola, Sonfil, Malta Regional, Agua Nevada and Nestea which had remained in storage since December.

The Consumer Protection Law allows for the siezure of illegally hoarded goods and sale at cost to consumer outlets, which monies gained will be repatriated to the company subject to the legal siezure order.

Panamco and other companies that had been served judicial orders had not complied with the orders issued by the 2nd Superior Agriculture Matters Court (Juzgado Superior Segundo Agrario de la Circunscripcion Judicial) for Aragua, Carabobo and Cojedes States under the authority and command of judge, Dr. Jose de la Cruz Useche according to Article 7 in the Law for the Protection of Consumers.

The merchandise was transpported to GN Core 2 HQ where INDECU official Jose Gregorio Blanco is now in charge of inventory, distribution and sale of the goods. Blamnco says that no private property rights have been violated and that he was obliged to call upon the assiatance of the National Guard to enforce Articles 106 and113 in the Consumer Law.

NOTE: The Panamco factory and warehouse, as well as other facilities at which foodstuffs have been illegally hoarded, remains the direct private property of the owners and has in no way been violated or succeeded to public ownership.














by Luis Camejo
The organizations that gather companies with connections to the US and Germany have issued strong warnings to their associates on account of legal insecurity in Vzla., this after the high profile confiscations in the Coca-Cola distribution center in Valencia. This contradicts government claims that all was legally squeaky clean. Suppose the private media simply hid the judges and inspectors from view so the operation looked illegal, but in other operations that took place that day (Margarita for instance) such officials were present and they were shown on the private media alongside troops involved, no big deal. Yes, hoarding can be a problem here but excusing brutal and illegal actions of the military with a priori suppositions concerning this particular case is simply speculation. Yeah the women protesters were furious and perhaps too bold, and in the mayhem foe and friend will suffer equally. Still the men in green were goons. The black t-shirts are an unfortunate choice, one because of the hot weather, and two because black is associated with fascism. The black color in this case has more to do with the opposition slogan of "active mourning" in reference to the sad state of affairs in the country, especially the politically motivated murders. Fascists housewives? Hardly. The TV cameras focused on these "damsels in distress" but don't forget that company employees were also mistreated.

From some time on this government has repeatedly targeted the interests of the Mendoza Family, including farms and their businesses such as Polar. Something is going on here.

It is weird to see the military doing this kind of action, I mean this is a job for inspectors of the consumer's office, and the local police. If the goods were being hoarded then fine the hell out of them or do whatever is legal, but the goods and company trucks were promptly taken away by the military. Even the hot shot general in charge of operations helped himself to a bottle of drink. I mean what is this, confiscation or robbery by the military? Later on, pictures of this guy in his home showed him drinking Coca-Cola. Do you actually think he paid for them? Some role model, especially for the younger troopers. The military have become omnipresent since this government came into power.

Why not go after real foods, instead of this pathetic show over beer, Coca Cola (so much for this government's criticism of globalization) and a terrible artificial orange drink. The amount of merchandise found in the Polar Industry's warehouse was probably not even worth the trouble. Even if the private TV stations purposely did not show the extent of hoarded stuff, in sympathy with Polar, the state controlled channel did not either. There was no hiding by the private media of the large amounts of Coke.

As a Venezuelan I felt acutely embarassed about the pathetic show the General demonstrated before the public. His resounding (and I must add fake) belch must give quite an image of the Venezuelan military, not to mention this guy's disrespectful behaviour with female reporters on the scene and the rough-handedness of his troops. I can imagine most people abroad thinking: "Just military gorillas doing their thing in banana & oil land down South." Even if the government had designed the show as a warning to hoarders to start distributing, it was in bad form and did more harm than good for the image of the government and the military.

Things promise to get worse as Chavez has just named new ministers (all military or ex-military), including retired Gen. Lucas Rincon, the very dude that publicly announced Chavez had resigned during the coup-attempt last April. Chavez has always claimed he never resigned, so go figure yourself what sort of agreement these two came up with. Two private news channels have received legal summons regarding their biased programming, which it certainly is, but a legal notice should also be handed out to VTV the state owned TV for their continued barrage of government propaganda. The pressure just keeps on building, and nobody is giving a millimeter.
by eco man
Luis Camejo.
It seems you specialize in spin control on more than one Venezuela thread here at San Francisco Indymedia.

"black is associated with fascism" is a funny remark here at Indymedia. :)

It is time for me to post the progressive (mostly) Venezuela news sites in this thread:

Venezuela news sources. For the latest news click the links below. If needed, use onsite search engines.
http://www.elistas.net/lista/lea/archivo (Spanish, English). Venezuela environmental email list archive.
http://www.motherjones.com (English). Onsite search. Some URLs indicate year and month.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/venezuela (English) Comprehensive Venezuela compilation.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/venezuela/archive (English). Chronological link list.
http://www.alainet.org (English, Spanish, Portuguese, French).
http://www.alainet.org/venezuela.phtml (English, Spanish, Portuguese, French). Venezuela page.
http://www.thegully.com/essays/venezuela/021220_media_mindshock.html See links to mid-left of page.
http://www.narconews.com (English, Spanish).
http://www.narconews.com/docs/ven_archive.php3 Narco News: Venezuela Full Coverage.
http://www.vheadline.com (English). "Venezuela's Electronic News."
http://www.zmag.org/venezuela_watch.htm (English). Venezuela articles page.
http://www.flashpoints.net (English). KPFA Flashpoints Radio. Text, photos, audio.
http://www.petroleumworld.com (English, Spanish).
http://www.aporrea.org (Spanish). Venezuela news.
http://www.aporrea.org/english.php (English). Link compilation.
http://www.americas.org/venezuela (English). Up-to-date Venezuela news links.
http://www.commondreams.org (English). Use onsite search for daily indexing. URL indicates exact date.
http://www.einnews.com/venezuela (English). Must pay monthly fee.
http://italy.indymedia.org/features/guerreglobali/#395 (Italian). Venezuela news link compilation.
http://belgium.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=44547 (English, French, Dutch). Link compilation.
http://www.indybay.org (English, Spanish) Onsite search engine returns many Venezuela articles and comments.
by eco warning venezuela
I am talking in behalf of Mother Earth.

She says 'thank eco man for putting LEA VENEZUELA as your first search regarding venezuelan realities at the news'

BEWARE INMEDIATLY FROM ANY 'ESCUALIDOS' ECOLOGICAL NEWS.

I already settled my possition at [LEA Venezuela] mailing list:
****** ****** ********
I am not Chavista, I am not 'escualido' from vitalis.net, I am ecologist !
****** ****** ********
It is happening what I warned about time ago, escualidos are using ecological situation to write greenwashing news for attacking chavez!

BEWARE OF VITALIS.net

http://www.elistas.net/lista/lea/archivo
"ni soy chavista ni soy escualido de vitalis, soy ecologista!
interfaz 23/01/2003"

I am working in a more extense paper about this.

Trastor
by eco man
Hey Trastor.
Mother Earth and Mother Jones are the first 2 news sources in the list. :)
by Constitution Reader
Why is everybody saying, "the constitution does not allow a referendum until mid-terms" etc.? CHAVEZ himself wrote the Constitution in 1999!!! What one man has wrought, millions can overturn, right??

by Trastor
Chavez is starting to speak at today January 23 the day of the great march to support Chavez, it is transmited live on VTV-8 from the site of the pro-chavez march.

I am scared that my TV get broken with so many people gathered there, a "flooding of peoples" like Chavez himself is saying right now on the microphone...

Trastor
by ALL VENEZUELANS !! !!!
I understand better what is happening, my TV is OK!, what is happening is that as soon as Chavez started to talk, it was impressive, my TV speakers were like thorning apart as the huge mass of people gethered there in Caracas to support Chavez started to welcome him to speak, but the noise came in reality from near here everywhere in Santa Elena de Uairen, my small home town, almost 2000 kilometers away from where Chavez is speaking right now in Caracas, here in this last frontier outpost of Venezuela, we heared everywhere here too people shouting Chavez, Chavez, Chavez, and lots of fireworks started to explode in all the town synchronized, they must be watching VTV-8 media. I wonder if this was in reality in all Venezuela?, in every cities , town, village, the people shouting and exploding fireworks all wide venezuela when he started to adress peoples of venezuela today at the great march in Caracas of january 23th, 2003 to support him. I am sure it was in all venezuela the fireworks and people receiving him at TV screens in all venezuela , yes it is.

Trastor

by bov
was just reading on google.

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20030123_1696.html

one killed.
by Nostradamus
"There are terrorist fighting for freedom and there are terrorist fighting for slavery (of all venezuelans)"
--Nostradamus.

Thanks god their trick is not functioning, everybody is calmed in peace hearing hipnotized to Chavez, the mass of people is not revolting back due to the bomb.

Maybe something alike the multibillionaries maybe they try more to disturb the masses gathered there to start a civil war tonight?.

It is late, night, chavez still speaking aloud, 8:17 pm venezuelan time. in Bolivar square of my town there is a huge TV and lot of people watching it standing there in the street.

Everywhere you ride on the bike, there you hear turning each corner a TV aloud with Chavez speech.

The night, a bomb exploded, what else?, This corporative terrorist are working, they must be desperated. I am scared of the night, maybe, just perhaps, include alcohol in the mixture at venezuelan brains...

The night doesn't help our instincts as it did in our jungle times. We are living times going who know where?

Trastor.

"A supporter of President Hugo Chavez expresses his opinion during a rally in support of Chavez in Caracas, Venezuela, Thursday, Jan 23, 2003. Chavez supporters marched to protest a 53-day-old strike intended to topple their leader and to celebrate the 45th anniversary of the fall of Venezuela's last dictator. (AP Photo/Andres Leighton)"
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by eco man
The HTML code for the image is correct in my last comment. But I forgot to choose "html format" in the dropdown menu. Feel free to use the image and the HTML code.

oil_coup.jpg"

Hundreds of thousands rallied for Chavez.
http://www.indybay.org/news/2003/01/1565105_comment.php
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