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arriba los que luchan!!!
Paz entre pueblos, guerra entre clases
comete a los ricos!
Paz entre pueblos, guerra entre clases
comete a los ricos!
I still don't get it. Did the black block's collective temper tantrum make everybody feel better?
Whaz up wi dat?
Whaz up wi dat?
I'm all better now
So "might makes right" is OK when you get to throw news boxes through windows, but it's not OK when "might makes right" is used by anyone else such as cops, governments, corporations?
Your actions are a "demonstration" of your own hypocracy.
Your actions are a "demonstration" of your own hypocracy.
What did the garbage can and newspaper racks ever do to you?
Gosh, you knocked things over and graffiti'd a building. How constructive. Do you feel like a real man now?
Gosh, you knocked things over and graffiti'd a building. How constructive. Do you feel like a real man now?
Honey do you remember when black was the only big threat.
Pink is rising up ladies and it's gonna be fierce.
Pink is rising up ladies and it's gonna be fierce.
Perhaps the peace lovers, (no offence) should take direct action of their own instead of criticizing the anarchists for the form of resistence they decid to take. There is nothing hypocritical about shaking the grounds of established order, rather that"s throwing a molotov cocktail or burning a draft card. The important thing is that these people resisted and their resistance was not targeted at hurting others but symbolizing the uprising of the masses. Instead of criticizing those who find it acceptable to have a violent or armed revolution you should find ways so your peace politics work to stop the war. I'm waiting to see mass acts of peaceful civil disobediance or non- violent direct action. I haven't seen any yet it's about time the the peaceful protestors start taking real action and furthuring the anti war movement
A comment by "FPFP" was hidden because it contained a homophobic slur.
You *will* show respect for Gay people on this site, or else you're out of here.
You *will* show respect for Gay people on this site, or else you're out of here.
If you were at the breakaway march you may have seen me handing out stickers that read Fudge Packers For Peace. I was with the pink bloc. I am a proud fudge packer and my aim is true. I love my pink brothers and sisters and am proud of all they did at Saturday's action.
Please don't censor without proper analysis!
Please don't censor without proper analysis!
Another comment by FPFP was hidden, this one because, franky, we don't believe you. Contact us by email and drop the right names, so we can verify what you said, and we'll unhide both of them. In the meantinme, we're going to err on the side of caution and avoid allowing this site to be used to unsult our friends.
Ok David,
So 100,00 peaceful demonstrators in the streets on Saturday is not non-violent direct action? I am confused by your challenge.
What I really want to talk about is the fine lines of "violence".
I am trying to zero in on the acts of violence and to see where "symbolic" violence ends and "collateral damage" begins. Who's to say what violence is righteous? Get my drift?
Is your defining difference that it is against objects and not people?
Is there some book or website I can read about this?
So 100,00 peaceful demonstrators in the streets on Saturday is not non-violent direct action? I am confused by your challenge.
What I really want to talk about is the fine lines of "violence".
I am trying to zero in on the acts of violence and to see where "symbolic" violence ends and "collateral damage" begins. Who's to say what violence is righteous? Get my drift?
Is your defining difference that it is against objects and not people?
Is there some book or website I can read about this?
The Black Block was fun. It was the only reason I came all the way from LA to go to another demonstration against another war. It made me feel a hell of a lot better to be in a group of people not afraid to shake things up a little. This wasn't exactly an exercise in violent or violet revolution. It was a way to get over the inevitable letdown of listening to more boring speakers say the same old shit I have been hearing since I was a kid going to anti Vietnam demonstrations. I was just happy to have enough energy to keep up more or less, until the dispersal at the Bart station. Hit em where it hurts in the wallet. We need more property damage not less. The pleasure in destruction is a creative pleasure to paraphrase Bakunin.
This is in response for the momentary censorship that my commentary received.
First off censorship on an independent open publishing site seems like a contradiction. I do understand the need to monitor the commentary to stop spam that is meant to jam the system, but it seems that every person's opinion has the right to be heard. Inclusion creates discussion as well as a broad viewpoint on certain subjects.
It is obvious that my posts were censored because they contained the phrase "Fudge Packers For Peace". This phrase was taken from the stickers that I, an openly gay man and member of the Gay Shame collective, handed out during the action on Saturday. These stickers were meant to inspire the reclamation of this specific homophobic slur and to incite the reclamation of every other. It is important that we queer folks allow ourselves to get past the pain and suffering from mere words. I am tired of letting a phrase reduce me to a quivering mass. I am proud of being a fudge packer and would much rather let what is meant to be a passive aggresive insult sink into my reality as a badge of honor.
It was stated that my posting was hidden because the editors did not want to allow this site to be used to insult their friends. To this editor I say thank you for your protection, assuming that by 'our friends' you meant your queer friends that support and appreciate the IMC, but that is not what queer folks need from the Independent Media Center's website or from anyone else for that matter. What we do need from this organization is inclusion and recognition. I have scoured your site for any mention of the pink bloc or of Gay Shame and have yet to find anything besides the photos. Were we not loud enough? Were we to campy? What?
Anyways, I want to add a huge thank you to the Gay Shame folks out there that organized the inclusion of the pink bloc with the breakaway march. It certainly was fierce!
First off censorship on an independent open publishing site seems like a contradiction. I do understand the need to monitor the commentary to stop spam that is meant to jam the system, but it seems that every person's opinion has the right to be heard. Inclusion creates discussion as well as a broad viewpoint on certain subjects.
It is obvious that my posts were censored because they contained the phrase "Fudge Packers For Peace". This phrase was taken from the stickers that I, an openly gay man and member of the Gay Shame collective, handed out during the action on Saturday. These stickers were meant to inspire the reclamation of this specific homophobic slur and to incite the reclamation of every other. It is important that we queer folks allow ourselves to get past the pain and suffering from mere words. I am tired of letting a phrase reduce me to a quivering mass. I am proud of being a fudge packer and would much rather let what is meant to be a passive aggresive insult sink into my reality as a badge of honor.
It was stated that my posting was hidden because the editors did not want to allow this site to be used to insult their friends. To this editor I say thank you for your protection, assuming that by 'our friends' you meant your queer friends that support and appreciate the IMC, but that is not what queer folks need from the Independent Media Center's website or from anyone else for that matter. What we do need from this organization is inclusion and recognition. I have scoured your site for any mention of the pink bloc or of Gay Shame and have yet to find anything besides the photos. Were we not loud enough? Were we to campy? What?
Anyways, I want to add a huge thank you to the Gay Shame folks out there that organized the inclusion of the pink bloc with the breakaway march. It certainly was fierce!
They're back.
I'm with you on the reclaiming thing.They're only words. Take 'em back or ignore 'em, I say. People shouldn't be so sensitive. You need a shell to survive in this culture. But that's us. That’s how we feel. Not everybody feels that way. I have personal friends who don’t want to have to wade through that kind of crap in order to read this site. We’re trying to be inclusive here. We want to include them and we want to include you.
So yeah, be included. Get involved. Come to meetings. You’ll fit right in. We need people like you.
I'm with you on the reclaiming thing.They're only words. Take 'em back or ignore 'em, I say. People shouldn't be so sensitive. You need a shell to survive in this culture. But that's us. That’s how we feel. Not everybody feels that way. I have personal friends who don’t want to have to wade through that kind of crap in order to read this site. We’re trying to be inclusive here. We want to include them and we want to include you.
So yeah, be included. Get involved. Come to meetings. You’ll fit right in. We need people like you.
You guys are the coolest thing in SF right now . . . . I mean, an anarchist march to smash corporate symbols, with people in pink dresses?? It's wonderful. I was also impressed by the cake image and quote from a Newsom demo you guys were in, really beautiful. Everyone in the office loved it.
You didn't call in reports. If you had, we could have put you out live over Enemy Combatant Radio.
As for written reports, that's your job. You write them. We'll provide you with a website to post them on and an audience to read them.
As for written reports, that's your job. You write them. We'll provide you with a website to post them on and an audience to read them.
to Misterry grrl...
"Pacifism as Pathology" is a good read on the different definitions of violence over the years...goes into some depth about definitions given by historical figures and talks a bit about pacifism...anyways, won't get in to it too much but it is written by Ward Churchill and a really quick read...you can probably get it at AK Press' online site if you can't find it more locally
smash the state - chuckE
"Pacifism as Pathology" is a good read on the different definitions of violence over the years...goes into some depth about definitions given by historical figures and talks a bit about pacifism...anyways, won't get in to it too much but it is written by Ward Churchill and a really quick read...you can probably get it at AK Press' online site if you can't find it more locally
smash the state - chuckE
It looks to me like some the participants in this protest were in the pay of SF City Hall. Knocking down and destroying newspapers racks is just what jerry brown planned to do before replacing them with enormous multi-publication racks manufactured by the one and only Clear Channel. Thanks for doing a service for the community of San Francisco.
While I strongly support smashing corporate media, why did some of you have to use the racks for local publications, such as the lefty SF Bay Guardian, for window smashing material?
While I strongly support smashing corporate media, why did some of you have to use the racks for local publications, such as the lefty SF Bay Guardian, for window smashing material?
the REAL property destruction comes in the form of bombs, missiles and bulldozers in Iraq, Palestine, Afghanistan, Colombia, etc... While I personally would * not * participate in the so-called property destruction of the Black Bloc, these actions don't compare to the property destruction done by the US Air Force or Israeli Occupation Forces. Keep that in mind before criticizing.
:: While I personally would * not * participate in the so-called property destruction of the Black Bloc, these actions don't compare to the property destruction done by the US Air Force or Israeli Occupation Forces. Keep that in mind before criticizing.
Is that a justification or a moral statement?
Is that a justification or a moral statement?
hey, i'm so happy to know that gay shame was part of the break-away march last saturday! i hope it took some of the patriarchial, macho steam out of the black block, which i usually find to be the incarnation of the police only supposedly on our side.....
there's nothing like radical pink-wigged beautiful queers with a mission... way to go!! how exciting.....
love,
queerrr in the midwest....
p.s. nice work on the ins building.....
there's nothing like radical pink-wigged beautiful queers with a mission... way to go!! how exciting.....
love,
queerrr in the midwest....
p.s. nice work on the ins building.....
MAn, i am so proud of my city. !!!!!. dont stop till its over, and i dont mean just the war. sit down, shut it down, bring it down, fill the jails and streeets and demand what is yours and ours. non-violent action is active, it is powerful and it is the antithesis of war. I love you all sf! you are some of the most beautiful , intelligent and powerful people in the country. we'll all be resisting here in ny too! dont let bush make the full decent into fasism.
When you see people like this what else can you expect. This is representative of our future?
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