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San Francisco Nude women for peace on Jan. 18th? Elevating Propaganda Impact
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To my knowledge, the picture above reports on the third instance where nude people have made a protest like this. (see url below for story on them)
An idea hit me over the head when looking at this. Why not put together a single simple webpage with the strongest arguments and facts against the Bush war, and have nude people spell that out? There would have to be some planning here, of course, picking a good URL that is short enough to spell out and remember.
Once the site is up, the nude protestors can do their thing, AND THE LOCAL AND NATIONAL PRESS CAN BE INFORMED OF THE ACTION IN ADVANCE. Perhaps this can be done for Washington DC, Jan. 18? San Francisco? Since the San Francisco protest is going to be right in the middle of downtown, it'll be hard to do. But in Washington DC I can imagine throngs of protestors "protecting" the "nude brigade" from cops intent on busting it up somewhere out on the mall.
Just a crazy thought.
I'm sure there will be people that post after me trashing the idea. If so, I say to you, lighten up. Without humor and creativity, we're beyond hope.
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http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0102-07.htm
Published on Thursday, January 2, 2003 by the Point Reyes Light (Point Reyes, California)
Nude Women Protest War Again
Men Also Demonstrate
by Ivan Gale
An idea hit me over the head when looking at this. Why not put together a single simple webpage with the strongest arguments and facts against the Bush war, and have nude people spell that out? There would have to be some planning here, of course, picking a good URL that is short enough to spell out and remember.
Once the site is up, the nude protestors can do their thing, AND THE LOCAL AND NATIONAL PRESS CAN BE INFORMED OF THE ACTION IN ADVANCE. Perhaps this can be done for Washington DC, Jan. 18? San Francisco? Since the San Francisco protest is going to be right in the middle of downtown, it'll be hard to do. But in Washington DC I can imagine throngs of protestors "protecting" the "nude brigade" from cops intent on busting it up somewhere out on the mall.
Just a crazy thought.
I'm sure there will be people that post after me trashing the idea. If so, I say to you, lighten up. Without humor and creativity, we're beyond hope.
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http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0102-07.htm
Published on Thursday, January 2, 2003 by the Point Reyes Light (Point Reyes, California)
Nude Women Protest War Again
Men Also Demonstrate
by Ivan Gale
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(2) SF Indymedia requires a "Title" for comments to be posted. This requirement is inherently sexist, genderist, and classist. The "Title" should be made OPTIONAL.
However, in section (2), I misunderstood the meaning of "Title"-- I thought it meant a person's title (Dr. Smith, Ms. Jones, Mr. Adam). Doh. Of course now I realize it means a title of the comment, article, etc.
Stumbling along,
Auntie Tortuga Bi LIBERTY
Do all the good you can, By all the means you can, In all the ways you can, In all the places you can, At all the times you can, To all the people you can, As long as ever you can. .. John Wesley
Can't you can it with that.
"Despite cold weather, a group of 30 peace campaigners went naked in East Sussex for their latest protest against any military action."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2649959.stm
I understand the marching peace protest, and I will listen. But I'm here to tell you, that you lose it with me, and I am sure many like-minded others, when you bring in the clowns and balloons, dogs and ponies, take off your clothes, and make it some sort of mardi-gras party nonsense out of it. Bring in a little booze and vandalism, maybe? Are you serious, or not? Costumes and nudity may well make a lot of points on a lot of issues, but not something as important as to war or not to war. This is a serious question. I'll listen, but present your case in a manner that does the dignity to your position that it deserves. You who oppose the war already have each other in your camp. It is your opposition and the fence-sitters you are trying to sway, isn't it? (Otherwise, who is it you are trying to reach?) Therefore, you should care about making a serious presentation of your stand, and cut out all the theatrics that detract from getting your message across.
I don't see a direct connection between nudity and peace, but let's explore it for a moment.
1) could nude people wage war? no
2) when you think of nude people, do violent images come to mind? No. (Well they don't for me, but I suppose there are some who are so repressed and frustrated, but for the majority I would argue no)
3) what images come to mind as associated with nudity? Beauty, life, love, making love, nature, freedom, joy, birth, honesty, vulnerability (there are more, but you get the idea). And all these images are fairly antithetical to the spirit of war.
4) when the mainstream media ignores our protests, trivializes our messages, and generally pretends we don't exist, trying new approaches is a welcome relief. So they do it for the giggle factor. When they see 80 naked women spelling out "PEACE" the world gets our message.
I may be too hung up to parade down market street in my altogether, but I salute those who do and I know deep down we are kindred spirits working toward peace.
Thanks.
I don't see a direct connection between nudity and peace, but let's explore it for a moment.
1) could nude people wage war? no
2) when you think of nude people, do violent images come to mind? No. (Well they don't for me, but I suppose there are some who are so repressed and frustrated, but for the majority I would argue no)
3) what images come to mind as associated with nudity? Beauty, life, love, making love, nature, freedom, joy, birth, honesty, vulnerability (there are more, but you get the idea). And all these images are fairly antithetical to the spirit of war.
4) when the mainstream media ignores our protests, trivializes our messages, and generally pretends we don't exist, trying new approaches is a welcome relief. So they do it for the giggle factor. When they see 80 naked women spelling out "PEACE" the world gets our message.
I may be too hung up to parade down market street in my altogether, but I salute those who do and I know deep down we are kindred spirits working toward peace.
Thanks.
I don't see a direct connection between nudity and peace, but let's explore it for a moment.
1) could nude people wage war? no
2) when you think of nude people, do violent images come to mind? No. (Well they don't for me, but I suppose there are some who are so repressed and frustrated, but for the majority I would argue no)
3) what images come to mind as associated with nudity? Beauty, life, love, making love, nature, freedom, joy, birth, honesty, vulnerability (there are more, but you get the idea). And all these images are fairly antithetical to the spirit of war.
4) when the mainstream media ignores our protests, trivializes our messages, and generally pretends we don't exist, trying new approaches is a welcome relief. So they do it for the giggle factor. When they see 80 naked women spelling out "PEACE" the world gets our message.
I may be too hung up to parade down market street in my altogether, but I salute those who do and I know deep down we are kindred spirits working toward peace.
Thanks.
http://www.indybay.org/news/2003/01/1560511.php
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