Animal Rights Banner Hang - Thanksgiving time

What about my rights?

...nuff said.

why should I care about yours?

Fire up the oven nothing in the world like the great smell of turkey cooking.

You are what you eat
Be THANKful that you're not the turkey..... or are you?
*gobble~gobble*~~~~RETCH!

I don't mind. That's Nature's way. You're not against Nature, are you?

do you hunt the turkey, omnivore?

if you do, in my opinion, that's a BIIIGGGG difference from how/where most people, including probably you, get theirs, that is safeway, whole foods, vons, etc.

if you get your turkey the way most people do, then i would not call that natural. would you?

It's every bit as natural as how a lion cub or a hyena get what's left of a wildebeast after the lion eats her share. Not every meat eater kills what it eats. When I die, the worms that eat my body wont have been the cause of my death.

What's the matter, do you suffer from the delusion that humans are somehow *outside* of Nature?

Wise up. NOTHING is outside of nature.

Birds build nests. Humans build houses. Beavers build log damns. Humans build Grand Coulee. Termites build termite mounds. Humans build the Transamerica Pyramid. The difference is only of scale.

Ants herd aphids. Humans herd cattle.

Lions eat wildebeasts. Humans eat turkey.

Same, same, same.

We are just another animal, living out our part in Nature's grand process. NOTHING is outside of Nature, NOTHING.

>Birds build nests. Humans build houses. Beavers build log damns. Humans build Grand Coulee. Termites build termite mounds. Humans build the Transamerica Pyramid. The difference is only of scale.

And if humans keep building at the current rapid rate they are, those birds, and beavers and termites you speak of will have no trees to nest in, no logs by the river to build a damn, no river, cause its been redirected to serve HUMAN INTERESTS! You, omnivore, are what is known as a Specist, or human supremacist, if you will. "Nature" is interconnected, and humans are a tiny minority in that interwoven web.

>Not every meat eater kills what it eats. When I die, the >worms that eat my body wont have been the cause of >my death.

oh, so humans are scavengers, like vultures, hyeanas.. i think that's getting closer to describing the process by which most people get their turkey.


>What's the matter, do you suffer from the delusion >that humans are somehow *outside* of Nature?

>Wise up. NOTHING is outside of nature.

sure, in a way. NOTHING is. but then the term nature holds no meaning. the internet is natural and plastic surgery is natural, instant run-off elections are natural, right?

>Birds build nests. Humans build houses. Beavers >build log damns. Humans build Grand Coulee. >Termites build termite mounds. Humans build the >Transamerica Pyramid. The difference is only of >scale.

>Ants herd aphids. Humans herd cattle.


>Lions eat wildebeasts. Humans eat turkey.

>Same, same, same.

>We are just another animal, living out our part in >Nature's grand process. NOTHING is outside of >Nature, NOTHING.

we also have made ouselves the larget impacter of this natural world. is THAT natural? it is natural for there to be over 6 billion humans on this planet?

following you theories, it's just a matter of scale.

what do you think?

Isn't it awful that lions eat other animals? Doesn't it sicken you that sharks eat other fish? What gives them the right to eat other weaker organisms? Survival. It is the exact same case for humans eating dead birds like turkey. One gathers, another eats it, just like it was for 100 million years.

Ever been cornered by a bear? Think you could convince him not to kill you? Try your specious arguments for animal rights.

"oh, so humans are scavengers, like vultures, hyeanas"

Thats actually TRUE :)

Antropology will tell you more about civilization than archaeology. Early humans were scavangers, they ate what was left over from other predator kills. There was rapid advance in the intelligence of man once their nutrition changed. After the advent of fire they could cook the meat and thus required less musculature of the jaw. Less musculature allowed for more room for the brain.

Thats why people may feel weird about killing animals but not weird about eating them (we have teeth for meat eating but no claws etc...); its actually how we evolved. Killing other animals isnt in human nature, but finding dead prey in a grocery store is.

>You, omnivore, are what is known as a Specist

Every species thinks of itself first. Even a hamster cares more about other hamsters than it does about us . What are we supposed to be, dumber than hamsters?

You, sir, and anti-human. I’m human. That makes you my enemy.

>oh, so humans are scavengers, like vultures, hyeanas.. i think that's getting closer to describing the process by which most people get their turkey.


Some are and some aren’t. Some kill their prey , some scavenge and some eat what mommy drags back to the den. There is nothing wrong with being a scavenger. Scavengers are an integral part of the ecological process. Without scavengers, we’d be smothered in corpses.



> the internet is natural and plastic surgery is natural, instant run-off elections are natural, right?

Yup. Sure is. But that does *not* mean the term “nature” holds no meaning. It only means that you limit it’s meaning to that which is not the work of humans. This is probably residual brainwashing that you went through in Sunday school. Genesis 1:26-30 is superstitious hogwash. Get over it. “God” did not “give.” Nature is.

Nothing is outside of Nature, least of all one species of mammal. To believe otherwise is nothing but vanity.

>we also have made ouselves the larget impacter of this natural world. is THAT natural? it is natural for there to be over 6 billion humans on this planet?

Yes it is. That doesn’t mean it’s the best thing for humanity. On the contrary, to would greatly behoove us to limit our breeding and to limit our negative impacts on the environment. This is not because of some moral imperative. It is because if we don’t, te environment will become uninhabitable, or at least extremely unpleasant for human. This does *not* mean that the environment is in any danger from human activity. Far from it. The biosphere was here before humans and it will be here when humans are gone. And rest assured, someday, we will be gone. No species lasts forever. Extinction is part of the Natural process. We are no danger to the biosphere. We are a danger to ourselves.




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YA'LL AINT GOT A CLUE ABOUT NATURE.COME ON DOWN TO MISSISSIPPI AND WE WILL SHOW YOU HOW TO EAT WILDLIFE.

It’s cheap and it’s healthy. Much is delicious.

Here’s my current favorite recipe:

Chop a big butternut squash, or two small ones, up into chunks the size of three thumbs (more or less). Throw it into a pot. Core four Granny Smith apples and cut each into six or twelve pieces. Throw it into the pot. Dice one large yellow onion. Caramelize it in a skillet. Throw it into the pot. Add at least a tablespoon of turmeric. Personally, I think more is better, but not everyone agrees. Watch out, because turmeric stains. Cover the stuff in the pot with water. Some people use chicken stock but I think it tastes better with water. You can taste the squash better that way. Cut a piece of fresh ginger the size of one thumb knuckle. Grate half into the pot. Bring to boil. Reduce to simmer and cook until he squash is just barely cooked. Whiz it to death in a blender. Pour it through a strainer into another pot. Grate the rest of the ginger into it and stir. Salt to taste. Let it cool to room temperature. Better still, let it get cold overnight in the fridge. Reheat it, but not to a boil. Serve with crusty bread and large spoons. You’ll want to eat fairly quickly because otherwise, as soon as your guests find out how good it tastes, they are going to polish the rest of the pot off so fast that you might not get seconds. We will want seconds.

http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994122

Meat eating is an old human habit

10:00 07 September 03
 

Humans evolved beyond their vegetarian roots and became meat-eaters at the dawn of the genus Homo, around 2.5 million years ago, according to a study of our ancestors' teeth.

In 1999, researchers found cut marks on animal bones dated at around 2.5 million years old. But no one could be sure that they were made by meat-eating hominids, because none appeared to have suitable teeth.

Now an analysis by Peter Ungar of the University of Arkansas has revealed that the first members of Homo had much sharper teeth than their most likely immediate ancestor, Australopithecus afarensis, the species that produced the famous fossil Lucy.

Eating meat requires teeth adapted more to cutting than to grinding. The ability to cut is determined by the slope of the cusps, or crests. "Steeper crests mean the ability to consume tougher foods," Ungar says. He has found that the crests of teeth from early Homo skeletons are steeper than those of gorillas, which consume foods as tough as leaves and stems, but not meat.

But the crests of teeth from A. afarensis are not only shallower than those of early Homo, they are also shallower than those of chimpanzees, which consume mostly soft foods such as ripe fruit, and almost no meat.

"Ungar shows that early Homo had teeth adapted to tougher food than A. afarensis or [chimpanzees]. The obvious candidate is meat," says anthropologist Richard Wrangham of Harvard University.

Ungar used a laser to scan each tooth and mapped the surface as though it were a landscape, using a geographic information system, he told a symposium on diet and evolution at the University of Arkansas in August.

He had to find a way to compare teeth already worn by use, because unworn teeth are extremely rare in fossils. In a previous study on the teeth of gorillas and chimps, he validated the technique by showing that the differences between species' teeth remain constant however much they are worn down (Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, vol 100, p 3874).

David Holzman

I personally think it is unconscionable for people of the forest who defend trees and living plants to turn to making money from selling dead animal carcasses for their members to feed on

earth first has shown it's disregard once again to the animal kingdom as they sell the dead for money. THESE ARE TRULY CRUEL PEOPLE

IT IS NOT RIGHT TO EAT THE DEAD!
please e-mail earth first and protest this out rage!

I would just like to say that nessie is a buffoon and a disgrace to your species.

Have you ever heard of a "proxy server?" You know even less about computers than you know about the real world!

It's the typo police!!! Great job, smashtheleft!!! Would you like a shiny, new apple? Do you also claim to have conversations with hamsters?

MORON.

>>PS: When was the last time you asked a hamster if it cared more about other hamsters than it does about its own species?

>Ooooohhhh, the typo police.

That was no "typo" on your part. That's just a small demonstration of how fucking stupid you are.

IDIOT.

ty·po ( P ) Pronunciation Key (tp)
n. Informal pl. ty·pos
A typographical error.

Are there any more words that you would like me to look up for you?

DIPSHIT.