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Police have opened fire on Bush protestors in Portland
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Police open fire on protestors - rubber bullets
by Briget 6:31pm Thu Aug 22 '02 (Modified on 8:36pm Thu Aug 22 '02)
Police open fire on protestors - rubber bullets
by Briget 6:31pm Thu Aug 22 '02 (Modified on 8:36pm Thu Aug 22 '02)
GET ON THE BUS TO THE BUSH PROTEST ON FRIDAY! tomorrow morning 7:30am at 21st & Mission st SF
Don't miss this chance to give the President a piece of your mind...
UPDATED INFORMATION BELOW:
We have now confirmed that President Bush will be speaking BOTH at a
public address at the Civic Auditorium in Stockton at 10:30 am AND at
a fundraising luncheon at the Spanos Jet Center in Stockton at 12:05
pm. The buses plan to take protesters to both sites.
There are STILL SEATS AVAILABLE ON THE BUS. Please call 415-821-6545 OR JUST SHOW UP!
AT:21 st &mission at 7:30am tomorrow morrrrning!!
asap to reserve a seat. (A $10 donation is requested to help pay for
the bus. No one turned away for lack of funds.) Stockton is approx. 80 miles from SF. Bus leaves Friday at 7:30 am and returns by 2 or 3 pm on the same day.
Driving directions:
To the Stockton Civic Auditorium -
>From I-5 take Pershing Ave. Exit; Turn LEFT on W. Park Ave.; Turn
LEFT on N. Pershing Ave.; Turn LEFT on W. Oak St.; go to N. Center
Street - the address of the Civic Auditorium is 525 N. Center Street.
The rally will be in the park just across the street.
To the Spanos Jet Center -
>From I-5 take the French Camp Exit; turn EAST on Airport Way; Exit
onto the Ruggels frontage road and proceed to the Spanos Jet Center.
We will rally in the parking lot near the hanger.
EMERGENCY CELL PHONE # to call if you are lost or having trouble
finding the rallies: (415) 305-3624.
Transportation info from Sacramento & Modesto is also available.
Call (415) 821-6545
Police have opened fire on Bush protestors with rubber bullets, pepper spray and gas. The crowds of people are moving around and regrouping.
The crowd was standing at the barricades and the police had called a state of emergency. Pepper spray was used on group early on. Batons were used on some people. Group included babies in strollers and older people, also people in wheelchairs. Those that could get out of the way were cut off surronded by police. There are snipers on the roofs.
All protestors were given a phone number to write on their arm by legal group that would hook them up with legal services if they are arrested. There are also medic's intersperse in the crowd.
Shrub's Speech - More of the Same
by devidas 7:09pm Thu Aug 22 '02 (Modified on 8:27pm Thu Aug 22 '02)
"We arrested people, about 2500 so far, and about an equal number who have not been so lucky. They don't value life like we value life," President Bush says at speech in downtown Portland as crowd laughs.
Yes, he really did say that. His speech was more of what you'd expect at a rah rah fund raiser.
He started off urging people to keep Smith in office, claiming that Smith is a big environmentalist. He continued on the riff he's been using lately about how current forestry policy allows for kindling buildup in our forests while allowing litigation procedures from preventing a "common sense forestry policy" from executing. "We want people to express their opinion but not ought to use that privilege to tie up good common sense policy so that the forests will burn." Yes, that is the way he talks.
He then went on about the recent education bill. And then he went on about his new trade authority that Smith helped to give him
It was then that he talked about justice and 9/11 and his whopper. First he continued with his old "Either you're with us or you're with them" riff as being the doctrine of the first war in the 21st Century. Then came his first big whopper: "We arrested people - about 2500 people so far - and an equal number who have nobeen so lucky (crowd laughs). They don't value life like we value life - that's not the way they think."
Not missing a beat he used this reasoning to justify the largest increase in "defense" spending since the Reagan administration. He added, "I want our troops well trained and well paid. They deserve the absolute best from our goverment." I guess if the nature of war (people w/ nothing to gain and the most to lose are used as pawns by those with the most to gain and the least to lose) and the history of secret testing on our soldiars is the absolute best from our government... oh, wait, and a little bit of cash too. Yes, on cash, he had problems pronouncing "entrepreneurial" when he went on about how he's helping to create a climate positive to entrepreneurs.
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8:10 Update: More pepper spray
by devidas 8:25pm Thu Aug 22 '02
from the streets
Calling from Broadway, an IMC reporter reports more pepper spray used on the crowd. He hands the phone to someone in the crowd: they just pushed a bunch of people and sprayed us.
Its still going strong.
Message from a veteran
by Not In My Name 7:26pm Thu Aug 22 '02
[Bush] added, "I want our troops well trained and well paid. They deserve the absolute best from our goverment."
Notwithstanding the denial of Gulf War Syndrome, the victims of agent orange, and the other abuses of enlisted personnel, here's what a U.S. veteran has to say about the government's treatment of soldiers.
=========================================
Message From a Vet
I think the vast differences in compensation between the victims of the September 11th casualty, and those
Don't miss this chance to give the President a piece of your mind...
UPDATED INFORMATION BELOW:
We have now confirmed that President Bush will be speaking BOTH at a
public address at the Civic Auditorium in Stockton at 10:30 am AND at
a fundraising luncheon at the Spanos Jet Center in Stockton at 12:05
pm. The buses plan to take protesters to both sites.
There are STILL SEATS AVAILABLE ON THE BUS. Please call 415-821-6545 OR JUST SHOW UP!
AT:21 st &mission at 7:30am tomorrow morrrrning!!
asap to reserve a seat. (A $10 donation is requested to help pay for
the bus. No one turned away for lack of funds.) Stockton is approx. 80 miles from SF. Bus leaves Friday at 7:30 am and returns by 2 or 3 pm on the same day.
Driving directions:
To the Stockton Civic Auditorium -
>From I-5 take Pershing Ave. Exit; Turn LEFT on W. Park Ave.; Turn
LEFT on N. Pershing Ave.; Turn LEFT on W. Oak St.; go to N. Center
Street - the address of the Civic Auditorium is 525 N. Center Street.
The rally will be in the park just across the street.
To the Spanos Jet Center -
>From I-5 take the French Camp Exit; turn EAST on Airport Way; Exit
onto the Ruggels frontage road and proceed to the Spanos Jet Center.
We will rally in the parking lot near the hanger.
EMERGENCY CELL PHONE # to call if you are lost or having trouble
finding the rallies: (415) 305-3624.
Transportation info from Sacramento & Modesto is also available.
Call (415) 821-6545
Police have opened fire on Bush protestors with rubber bullets, pepper spray and gas. The crowds of people are moving around and regrouping.
The crowd was standing at the barricades and the police had called a state of emergency. Pepper spray was used on group early on. Batons were used on some people. Group included babies in strollers and older people, also people in wheelchairs. Those that could get out of the way were cut off surronded by police. There are snipers on the roofs.
All protestors were given a phone number to write on their arm by legal group that would hook them up with legal services if they are arrested. There are also medic's intersperse in the crowd.
Shrub's Speech - More of the Same
by devidas 7:09pm Thu Aug 22 '02 (Modified on 8:27pm Thu Aug 22 '02)
"We arrested people, about 2500 so far, and about an equal number who have not been so lucky. They don't value life like we value life," President Bush says at speech in downtown Portland as crowd laughs.
Yes, he really did say that. His speech was more of what you'd expect at a rah rah fund raiser.
He started off urging people to keep Smith in office, claiming that Smith is a big environmentalist. He continued on the riff he's been using lately about how current forestry policy allows for kindling buildup in our forests while allowing litigation procedures from preventing a "common sense forestry policy" from executing. "We want people to express their opinion but not ought to use that privilege to tie up good common sense policy so that the forests will burn." Yes, that is the way he talks.
He then went on about the recent education bill. And then he went on about his new trade authority that Smith helped to give him
It was then that he talked about justice and 9/11 and his whopper. First he continued with his old "Either you're with us or you're with them" riff as being the doctrine of the first war in the 21st Century. Then came his first big whopper: "We arrested people - about 2500 people so far - and an equal number who have nobeen so lucky (crowd laughs). They don't value life like we value life - that's not the way they think."
Not missing a beat he used this reasoning to justify the largest increase in "defense" spending since the Reagan administration. He added, "I want our troops well trained and well paid. They deserve the absolute best from our goverment." I guess if the nature of war (people w/ nothing to gain and the most to lose are used as pawns by those with the most to gain and the least to lose) and the history of secret testing on our soldiars is the absolute best from our government... oh, wait, and a little bit of cash too. Yes, on cash, he had problems pronouncing "entrepreneurial" when he went on about how he's helping to create a climate positive to entrepreneurs.
add your own comments
8:10 Update: More pepper spray
by devidas 8:25pm Thu Aug 22 '02
from the streets
Calling from Broadway, an IMC reporter reports more pepper spray used on the crowd. He hands the phone to someone in the crowd: they just pushed a bunch of people and sprayed us.
Its still going strong.
Message from a veteran
by Not In My Name 7:26pm Thu Aug 22 '02
[Bush] added, "I want our troops well trained and well paid. They deserve the absolute best from our goverment."
Notwithstanding the denial of Gulf War Syndrome, the victims of agent orange, and the other abuses of enlisted personnel, here's what a U.S. veteran has to say about the government's treatment of soldiers.
=========================================
Message From a Vet
I think the vast differences in compensation between the victims of the September 11th casualty, and those
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Police opened fire on Bush protestors with rubber bullets... http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495&article=32278
Police have opened fire on Bush protestors with rubber bullets, pepper spray and gas. The crowds of people are moving around and regrouping.
The crowd was standing at the barricades and the police had called a state of emergency. Pepper spray was used on group early on. Batons were used on some people. Group included babies in strollers and older people, also people in wheelchairs. Those that could get out of the way were cut off surronded by police. There are snipers on the roofs.
All protestors were given a phone number to write on their arm by legal group that would hook them up with legal services if they are arrested. There are also medic's intersperse in the crowd.
The crowd included union people - longshoremen, anti-war people, people who see BBush as a corporate lackey who is stealing our retirement.
add your own comments http://portland.indymedia.org:8081/comment.php3?publishtype=webcast&top_id=17241
Police reaction to Portland protest by Lisa Thomas 7:03pm Thu Aug 22 '02 wearingpurple [at] yahoo.com
This will backfire. Even our most ostrich-like citizens are not going to stand for rubber bullets being shot in crowds with babies in strollers. This will hopefully wake people up as to what kind of people are running our country and how much closer to a police state we are moving.
========
I saw it with my own eyes by Randy 8:00pm Thu Aug 22 '02
I was between 5th and 6th on the sidewalk. Maybe the ones in front were warned to move, but I didn't hear any warning. It had been a peaceful protest. Suddenly the police came forward spraying pepper spray. A man nearby with an infant in a backpack got hit real good. The baby's face was so red I thought it had quit breathing. We pounded on the door at Carl's Jr. asking for water, but they had locked up. From the other direction came cop cars through the crowd and rubber bullets were fired at those closest to the cars. I kept retreating but the cops kept spraying. Lots of people were sprayed including the camera man from Channel 2 KATU. Some of us ended up across the street at Standard Insurance and used the fountain and pool.
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GOD BLESS PORTLAND by On Jacob's Ladder 9:48pm Thu Aug 22 '02
Thank you Portland for sending the message loud and clear! I thought the sheeple of this country too comfortable, too stupid, too crass to really care about what is happening here. We can never again ask "How did the German people let it happen?" Wake up - if we do not take to the streets we are letting it happen here. Even Gore (ol'"I'll fight for you" Al) ran and hid under a rock...Taking it to the streets is the only way - there is no other way - hey, Ostrich, do you think writing your Congressperson is the way to do it? They are owned by someone else, not by thee and me...The few who are not don't last (think Anita McKinney). Do you think the ballot is the way? Have you forgotten Florida? They will only "count" the votes they want to count. The only hope we have is in the streets...In closing, a historical messsage for you: "Why of course the people don't want war ... But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship ... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger." -Hermann Goering, Nazi leader, at the Nuremberg Trials after World War II
READ MORE HERE: http://portland.indymedia.org:8081/front.php3?article_id=17241&group=webcast
===================
Activists in Portland protest Bush policies http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495&article=32279
President Bush's remarks on forest health and preservation Bush raises record $1 million for Smith, GOP http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495&article=32281
What's Next...Concentration Camps? by Anis Shivani Until a few weeks ago, there was little mention in the media, even in most of its alternative, progressive form, of words like "fascism," "totalitarianism," "dictatorship," "police state," "martial law," "genocide," "concentration camps," etc. So the dirty work of laying the foundations of the genocidal state occurred in full sight, with open "coverage" by the media. http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495&article=32207
AMERICAN POLICE STATE: http://www.policestate21.com/
Re: The threat of terrorism from anti-government "Patriots" http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495&article=32280
Constitutional Rights of "Individual" U.S. Citizens ˜ Ken Murrell If American Citizens want to remain FREE this "Homeland Security" nonsense MUST BE STOPPED immediately! http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495&article=32205
Police have opened fire on Bush protestors with rubber bullets, pepper spray and gas. The crowds of people are moving around and regrouping.
The crowd was standing at the barricades and the police had called a state of emergency. Pepper spray was used on group early on. Batons were used on some people. Group included babies in strollers and older people, also people in wheelchairs. Those that could get out of the way were cut off surronded by police. There are snipers on the roofs.
All protestors were given a phone number to write on their arm by legal group that would hook them up with legal services if they are arrested. There are also medic's intersperse in the crowd.
The crowd included union people - longshoremen, anti-war people, people who see BBush as a corporate lackey who is stealing our retirement.
add your own comments http://portland.indymedia.org:8081/comment.php3?publishtype=webcast&top_id=17241
Police reaction to Portland protest by Lisa Thomas 7:03pm Thu Aug 22 '02 wearingpurple [at] yahoo.com
This will backfire. Even our most ostrich-like citizens are not going to stand for rubber bullets being shot in crowds with babies in strollers. This will hopefully wake people up as to what kind of people are running our country and how much closer to a police state we are moving.
========
I saw it with my own eyes by Randy 8:00pm Thu Aug 22 '02
I was between 5th and 6th on the sidewalk. Maybe the ones in front were warned to move, but I didn't hear any warning. It had been a peaceful protest. Suddenly the police came forward spraying pepper spray. A man nearby with an infant in a backpack got hit real good. The baby's face was so red I thought it had quit breathing. We pounded on the door at Carl's Jr. asking for water, but they had locked up. From the other direction came cop cars through the crowd and rubber bullets were fired at those closest to the cars. I kept retreating but the cops kept spraying. Lots of people were sprayed including the camera man from Channel 2 KATU. Some of us ended up across the street at Standard Insurance and used the fountain and pool.
------------------------
GOD BLESS PORTLAND by On Jacob's Ladder 9:48pm Thu Aug 22 '02
Thank you Portland for sending the message loud and clear! I thought the sheeple of this country too comfortable, too stupid, too crass to really care about what is happening here. We can never again ask "How did the German people let it happen?" Wake up - if we do not take to the streets we are letting it happen here. Even Gore (ol'"I'll fight for you" Al) ran and hid under a rock...Taking it to the streets is the only way - there is no other way - hey, Ostrich, do you think writing your Congressperson is the way to do it? They are owned by someone else, not by thee and me...The few who are not don't last (think Anita McKinney). Do you think the ballot is the way? Have you forgotten Florida? They will only "count" the votes they want to count. The only hope we have is in the streets...In closing, a historical messsage for you: "Why of course the people don't want war ... But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship ... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger." -Hermann Goering, Nazi leader, at the Nuremberg Trials after World War II
READ MORE HERE: http://portland.indymedia.org:8081/front.php3?article_id=17241&group=webcast
===================
Activists in Portland protest Bush policies http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495&article=32279
President Bush's remarks on forest health and preservation Bush raises record $1 million for Smith, GOP http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495&article=32281
What's Next...Concentration Camps? by Anis Shivani Until a few weeks ago, there was little mention in the media, even in most of its alternative, progressive form, of words like "fascism," "totalitarianism," "dictatorship," "police state," "martial law," "genocide," "concentration camps," etc. So the dirty work of laying the foundations of the genocidal state occurred in full sight, with open "coverage" by the media. http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495&article=32207
AMERICAN POLICE STATE: http://www.policestate21.com/
Re: The threat of terrorism from anti-government "Patriots" http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495&article=32280
Constitutional Rights of "Individual" U.S. Citizens ˜ Ken Murrell If American Citizens want to remain FREE this "Homeland Security" nonsense MUST BE STOPPED immediately! http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495&article=32205
now kids. step back and take a minute to think.
it looked wonderful on the news. freaked out high pitched fat girls bumping chests with cops and screaming,quit it, quit it, when the cops bumped back.
protest and rally is your right. bumping a cop on purpose and expecting to be safe from being bumped back is silliness. i mean look at those guys. theyre built for bumping. and all you have is that high pitched shakey yell. just bump each other and let the cops watch you. hey heres a idea. build real support and elect a anarchist mayor and chief of police. oops, sorry, that would require the majority support of your community. but you dont have that, i know, sorry. happy busted heads kids.
it looked wonderful on the news. freaked out high pitched fat girls bumping chests with cops and screaming,quit it, quit it, when the cops bumped back.
protest and rally is your right. bumping a cop on purpose and expecting to be safe from being bumped back is silliness. i mean look at those guys. theyre built for bumping. and all you have is that high pitched shakey yell. just bump each other and let the cops watch you. hey heres a idea. build real support and elect a anarchist mayor and chief of police. oops, sorry, that would require the majority support of your community. but you dont have that, i know, sorry. happy busted heads kids.
WAY TO GO PORTLAND!!!!
This was so amazing! Portland has the courage! I feel so bad to look at that woman getting swallowed up by the storm troopers . . . she's so brave to be at that place, holding her sign, being swallowed up.
We Love Portland!
Let's see if IAC gets inspired to move on the barriers now . . . not.
This was so amazing! Portland has the courage! I feel so bad to look at that woman getting swallowed up by the storm troopers . . . she's so brave to be at that place, holding her sign, being swallowed up.
We Love Portland!
Let's see if IAC gets inspired to move on the barriers now . . . not.
he'd post his home address, or at least his email address. Eric did. But then Eric is a REAL man. STL is a chickenshit wimp.
Smashy should post his home address........................right after nessie does.
http://www.oregonlive.com/newsflash/oregon/index.ssf?/cgi-free/getstory_ssf.cgi?o0036_BC_OR--Bush-Protesters&&news&ornews
"Supporters of Bush in formal attire were jostled and taunted by protesters as they arrived for the fund-raiser. After elbowing their way through the crowd of demonstrators, the VIPs were checked by Secret Service agents before they were allowed inside the hotel."
There's no point in this. If youre going to protest Bush then protest. But to have "jostled and taunted" those arriving at a fundraiser is childish at best.
"The melee erupted after police ordered about 500 protesters to move from a barricaded area."
No reason for a melee to have erupted. They were there to protest. When the police ordered them back they should simply have obliged. They weren't being prevented from protesting nor were their freedoms being usurped they just needed to move back. No big deal. We arent playing one-ups here. Move back a little. Keep protesting.
These people do more to damage themselves by not thinking ahead than anyone could possibly plan for.
"Supporters of Bush in formal attire were jostled and taunted by protesters as they arrived for the fund-raiser. After elbowing their way through the crowd of demonstrators, the VIPs were checked by Secret Service agents before they were allowed inside the hotel."
There's no point in this. If youre going to protest Bush then protest. But to have "jostled and taunted" those arriving at a fundraiser is childish at best.
"The melee erupted after police ordered about 500 protesters to move from a barricaded area."
No reason for a melee to have erupted. They were there to protest. When the police ordered them back they should simply have obliged. They weren't being prevented from protesting nor were their freedoms being usurped they just needed to move back. No big deal. We arent playing one-ups here. Move back a little. Keep protesting.
These people do more to damage themselves by not thinking ahead than anyone could possibly plan for.
And when the redcoat gun grabbers ordered the Minutemen at Concord and Lexington to disperse, the Minutemen should have complied.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, right.
The Minutemen were an armed militia ready to die for the birth of a new country. These people in Portland were simply protesting no more no less. They stood nothing to gain by holding their position. They were not ordered to stop protesting. Should these people take up arms to fight and they are told by the ones whom they are going to fight they should dispurse that would be the time to stand and be counted and would be parallel to the Minutemen at Concord and Lexington.
The Minutemen were an armed militia ready to die for the birth of a new country. These people in Portland were simply protesting no more no less. They stood nothing to gain by holding their position. They were not ordered to stop protesting. Should these people take up arms to fight and they are told by the ones whom they are going to fight they should dispurse that would be the time to stand and be counted and would be parallel to the Minutemen at Concord and Lexington.
The Minutemen were an armed militia ready to die for the birth of a new country. These people in Portland were simply protesting no more no less. They stood nothing to gain by holding their position. They were not ordered to stop protesting. Should these people take up arms to fight and they are told by the ones whom they are going to fight they should dispurse that would be the time to stand and be counted and would be parallel to the Minutemen at Concord and Lexington.
The Minutemen were an armed militia ready to die for the birth of a new country. These people in Portland were simply protesting no more no less. They stood nothing to gain by holding their position. They were not ordered to stop protesting. Should these people take up arms to fight and they are told by the ones whom they are going to fight they should dispurse that would be the time to stand and be counted and would be parallel to the Minutemen at Concord and Lexington.
The Minutemen were an armed militia ready to die for the birth of a new country. These people in Portland were simply protesting no more no less. They stood nothing to gain by holding their position. They were not ordered to stop protesting. Should these people take up arms to fight and they are told by the ones whom they are going to fight they should dispurse that would be the time to stand and be counted and would be parallel to the Minutemen at Concord and Lexington.
The Minutemen were an armed militia ready to die for the birth of a new country. These people in Portland were simply protesting no more no less. They stood nothing to gain by holding their position. They were not ordered to stop protesting. Should these people take up arms to fight and they are told by the ones whom they are going to fight they should dispurse that would be the time to stand and be counted and would be parallel to the Minutemen at Concord and Lexington.
Smashy gets a hard on when the cops bully old ladies. Shows you how retarded this element of the right is. They feel big and tough aligning themselves with power, ie., corporations, cops, pentagon, CIA, warmongering, etc. How brave is that?
This is just a reflection of their own feelings of inadequacy, cowardliness, and fear. So easy to manipulate. They've never stood up to power before, and feel it makes them more of a man to mock those that do. It's really sad and pathetic. It's like the little guy on the playground that worships the school yard bully.
The real hero, of course, is the one that finally stands up to the bully.
Down through history, there have always been knuckledraggers like this, who are more than happy to attack those who stand up to the power structure. They're just ignorant thugs, and really have no place in a democracy.
Smashy. I suggest you go to Columbia, join a right wing, US funded, CIA trained, death squad, and murder some little brown leftists for oil. Man, down their, you'd have the time of your life.
This is just a reflection of their own feelings of inadequacy, cowardliness, and fear. So easy to manipulate. They've never stood up to power before, and feel it makes them more of a man to mock those that do. It's really sad and pathetic. It's like the little guy on the playground that worships the school yard bully.
The real hero, of course, is the one that finally stands up to the bully.
Down through history, there have always been knuckledraggers like this, who are more than happy to attack those who stand up to the power structure. They're just ignorant thugs, and really have no place in a democracy.
Smashy. I suggest you go to Columbia, join a right wing, US funded, CIA trained, death squad, and murder some little brown leftists for oil. Man, down their, you'd have the time of your life.
Smashy gets a hard on when the cops bully old ladies. Shows you how retarded this element of the right is. They feel big and tough aligning themselves with power, ie., corporations, cops, pentagon, CIA, warmongering, etc. How brave is that?
This is just a reflection of their own feelings of inadequacy, cowardliness, and fear. So easy to manipulate. They've never stood up to power before, and feel it makes them more of a man to mock those that do. It's really sad and pathetic. It's like the little guy on the playground that worships the school yard bully.
The real hero, of course, is the one that finally stands up to the bully.
Down through history, there have always been knuckledraggers like this, who are more than happy to attack those who stand up to the power structure. They're just ignorant thugs, and really have no place in a democracy.
Smashy. I suggest you go to Columbia, join a right wing, US funded, CIA trained, death squad, and murder some little brown leftists for oil. Man, down their, you'd have the time of your life.
This is just a reflection of their own feelings of inadequacy, cowardliness, and fear. So easy to manipulate. They've never stood up to power before, and feel it makes them more of a man to mock those that do. It's really sad and pathetic. It's like the little guy on the playground that worships the school yard bully.
The real hero, of course, is the one that finally stands up to the bully.
Down through history, there have always been knuckledraggers like this, who are more than happy to attack those who stand up to the power structure. They're just ignorant thugs, and really have no place in a democracy.
Smashy. I suggest you go to Columbia, join a right wing, US funded, CIA trained, death squad, and murder some little brown leftists for oil. Man, down their, you'd have the time of your life.
look at the big man posting the url to his homepage.
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