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Public Response to Berkeley's David Nusbaum

by Will Youmans
A response to David Nusbaum's piece that attacked Will Youmans.

They say that mimicry is the highest form of flattery. It can also be the most witless form of retort.

David Nusbaum's artless rendition of my essay published on May 7th proves both ("Maintaining Education in the Midst of Conflict" 5/10/02).

I am flattered that he would consider my arguments efficacious enough to appropriate them for his own. As a Palestinian though, I am sick of Israelis taking ownership over every element of our existence - our land, our homes, our food (falafel is Arabic food), and our history of suffering.

How many Palestinian missiles hit Hebrew University? None. Did Palestinians raid Israeli schools, destroy their computers and student records, urinate in the Ministry of Culture's office, and arrest students and teachers, as the Israelis have done to the Palestinians? No! His attempt at equivocation falls short due to the clear lack of comparability between Israel’s full-blown military occupation and the random and desperate acts of Palestinians.

There are no Israeli Jenins.

Senior, Noura Erakat also was a visiting student at Hebrew University. She told me about how Hebrew U's students joked and talked cheerfully about backpacking trips, while her Palestinian neighbor in Abu Dis was brought home with a bullet in his brain on his daughter's birthday.

That is the fundamental difference between random suicide bombings and Israel's massive military occupation. I reject Nusbaum's strategy of making them appear as mirror images.

Nusbaum does not know what most Israelis do – that Israel’s military occupation is the source of the problem. I have never understood why pro-Israeli Americans are far more pro-Israeli than most Israelis are. It is parallel to the fanatic support American Communists showed for the USSR. It was far greater than Communists in the Soviet Union, who had much more informed and educated critiques.

We need to work towards ending both Israeli and Palestinian-sponsored violence in the context of greater a peace with justice. It is makes more sense to ask a government to end its siege of a whole population, than it is to ask members of the population not to resist while their back is against the wall. After all, if Israel ends its occupation, it will be a closer move towards peace, than if the Palestinians simply stop resisting. Israel’s brutal military control of Palestinian lives would simply resume, and there would be the same basic problems all over again. The Palestinians will still be oppressed.

The Students for Justice in Palestine is the only organization on campus that offers a framework for peace. We argue it starts with granting the Palestinians equality by dismantling Israel's Apartheid structure. The end goal is coexistence based on a mutual respect and recognition for each other under the law. So long as there is not equality and freedom for both, there will not be peace.

I will gladly take up Nusbaum’s challenge and elaborate in an "academic debate" against him or any other Israeli-flag-wearing super-nationalist. I invite the Daily Cal to sponsor it, and the public to attend and witness why opponents of the Palestinian cause for liberation need to steal our arguments. I e-mailed him Friday, but he is yet to respond.


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by Will's Mom
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Poor Will Youmans, can't this guy make a point without throwing in personal insults? I guess not. But geez, he sure uses some fancy words! I guess them law student fellers sure are smart!

Or maybe he is just in a pissy mood because he realized that:

a.) Nobody cares, US public opinion polls are 5 to 1 in favor of Israel

b.) The UC Regents are completely ignoring SJP

or

C.) Will Youmans isn;t even willing to practice what he preaches. The true answer is all of the above, but get a load of this. According to Al-Awda, the organization for the Palestinian Right of Return, Palestinians and their supporters should boycott and divest from companies that do business in Israel, just as Will and SJP want the UC Regents to do. All fine and dandy.

But here is a photo of WIll wearing a sweatshirt made by CHampion, a company owned by Sara Lee, which is on the boycott list. Now, how does a sharp guy like Will let somethign like this slip? Do as I say, not as I do?

And by the way will, i got the boycott info from a link on your SJP website. Try reading your own stuff sometimes.

http://www.inminds.co.uk/boycott-sara-lee.html
by kollontai
I could be will's mom for the day. I could probably find him a non Sara Lee shirt. Sorry for being glib, just my response to Hallmarkia & rather hopeless boycotts--as if we all had so much Buying Power, anyway.
by Mike
Yikes! Why the personal vitriol leveled at Youman's article? It's a fine article, making some excellent points that intelligently advance the Palestine-Israel discussion, and seek to move it even further through public debate with Nusbaum.

Patronizing, snide comments abt Youman, his mom (!), and his sweatshirt have no place in an honest debate.
by anarchist
The point is that Will's individual buying power doesnt mean much, so the ill-informed right-wing attack on him wearing a Champion sweatshirt is not only petty, it is incompetent. UC-Berkeley, on the other hand, would make a serious dent if they started a trend of divestment from Israel, and the right-wingers and Regents alike will have to face the facts that a divestment campaign is here to stay ... as long as the Israeli's stay in territory where they dont belong.

Dont let these jackass rightwingers, fat-assed in their dorm rooms living off daddy dentist's allowance, have anything to do with us.
by Jimmie
As individuals we don;t have much clout, but together we do.

That's why unions are effective, and that is why we call them scabs when they break off. There is an anti-Israel boycott on, of investments AND products. I don;t think the folks at Al-Awda are right wing kids of dentists. I don;t think Mr. Youmans wrote a half bad response here, but it does seem hypocritical of a leader of the pro-Palestinian movement to not take part in a boycott of companies doing business in Israel.
by Cookie Goddess
This is yet another fine example of the hypocrisy of the left, both at UC Berkeley and the world at large.

After being ignored by the university and its regents for over a year and a half, do Will and his cronies seriously think that by holding a lame protest in front of California Hall and chanting "we will be back" they will accomplish anything? In face of their failing cause, the least they can do is show personal commitment, which includes getting rid of their AOL, Nokia phones and Champion gear.

When even they do not take their campaign seriously, how do they expect others to? Wait....I know the answer to that. It is a lost cause anyways that has turned Berkeley to be the laughing stock of the country.
by Matthew Dunn
>In face of their failing cause, ...

Not to mention their failing grades.

I'll never forget, I was in a College Algebra class with Will Youmans and the prof was explaining how "x times 4 = 24, x = 6" and "x times 5 = 45, x = 9", stuff like that, and Will raised his hand and said, "In the first problem, x equaled 6 and in the second problem x equaled 9. I don't understand. Why'd you want to go and change it for?" The rest of us at least got a good laugh.
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