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Raisethefist.com: Confirmation of Raid from LA FBI
Details from the raid that was reported this morning!
INFORMATION OBTAINED BY SF INDYMEDIA
FROM LOS ANGELES FBI FIELD OFFICE
On Thursday, January 24th, around 4pm, the Los Angeles FBI served a search warrant to the owner of raisethefist.com. The search warrant was based on charges around "computer fraud and abuse" as well as "distribution of information related to explosives, destructive devices, and/or weapons of mass destruction." When asked if they had raided raisethefist.com, FBI spokesperson Cheryl Mimura from the FBI Los Angeles Field Office confirmed that it "was shut down." The warrant was served by the Los Angles Task Force on Terrorism, but the FBI denies that this warrant is related in any way to the September 11th attacks. Ms. Mimura could not confirm that law enforcement entered raisethefist.com owner's house with "machine guns, shotguns and hand guns" as reported in the original notice about this raid, found here:
http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/01/114428.php
FROM LOS ANGELES FBI FIELD OFFICE
On Thursday, January 24th, around 4pm, the Los Angeles FBI served a search warrant to the owner of raisethefist.com. The search warrant was based on charges around "computer fraud and abuse" as well as "distribution of information related to explosives, destructive devices, and/or weapons of mass destruction." When asked if they had raided raisethefist.com, FBI spokesperson Cheryl Mimura from the FBI Los Angeles Field Office confirmed that it "was shut down." The warrant was served by the Los Angles Task Force on Terrorism, but the FBI denies that this warrant is related in any way to the September 11th attacks. Ms. Mimura could not confirm that law enforcement entered raisethefist.com owner's house with "machine guns, shotguns and hand guns" as reported in the original notice about this raid, found here:
http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/01/114428.php
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Waiving guns around in the street will get you shot waving them around on the internet will get you raided. Should we defend such stupid fuckheads?
It's time for indymedia to start removing the pig posts!!
Sites containing the term "raisethefist.com":
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22raisethefist.com%22
Sites that link to raisethefirst.com:
http://www.google.com/search?q=link:raisethefist.com
Sites "related" to raisethefist.com (according to Google):
http://www.google.com/search?q=related:raisethefist.com
By the way, the FBI told me they cannot release the name of the individual who was served the "search" warrant, because it was a search warrant, not an arrest.
If anybody knows the specifics of arrest, etc. and what kind of help is needed, please post soon.
Byn the way, guns with many restrictions are still legal in this country. Writing about guns is still legal in this country. This raid was not about guns or their writing about them (You don't see the Feds raiding the offices of the NRA or Gun Owners of America). It qwas about p[olitics. The people who write "raise the fist" have a different politics than the ruling classes seem to allow.
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.raisethefist.com
Think about this: today "trek" argues that because the picture of a gun is argued by the SS/FBI to be dangerous we should not use pictures of guns or defend those that use pictures of guns.
tomorrow the FBI/SS argues that talking about pictures of guns is dangerours and "trek" again refuses to support people that talk about pictures of guns
the next day ...... get the picture?
We have an obligation to defend any expression of free-speech, especially in a time of war when what little civil rights we had left are being stripped away from underfoot.
I could be wrong but this is what I think. I had couple complaints about this guy. And maybe they did this so all these activist can get close to him.
This guy came out of nowhere. So people should double check on him.
People should read " AGENTS OF REPRESSION" by Ward Churchill.
I was a witness of undercover cops at the Long Beach May Day protest. These undercovers were in Black Block.
i did not see the raisethefist.com sites by myself. i am to some extent (very) concerned about what happened. yet i know very little about the whole thing. one thing i don't understand: if you think you get "something started" with more and more people joining and stuff, why do you risk it all by posting stuff like "don't talk about your involvement in criminal acts unless talking to those with whom you plan" or whatever?
i don't want to justify that raid, which so far looks like not legitimated or maybe even illegal to me. but if you really mean to move something, wouldn't you behave in a way that does not give them the possibility to legitimate such action from THEIR point of view?
furthermore, let us pretend there was no "how to build pipe bombs" on those pages: wouldn't you consider it much easier to get support from "corporate media" and see a huge public outcry?
just some thoughts...
You idiot. Shut the fuck up. I love it when everyone doesn't agree with your hyper-lefty comments and paranoia you loose your shit.
Go to bed.
Funny, I posted links about Sherman Martin Austin Defacements. Which are Illegal, and to have those same hacks aimed at Gov. Computers.
Defacements
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Hacked+by+the+UCA+-++Underground+Confidential+Association&btnG=Google+Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Hacked+by+the+UCA+&btnG=Google+Search
You may protest, burn flags, whine, whine all you want But I wont take you seriously. Go get a government job, become a "mole" run for governor, senate and speak your mind. Speak to millions instead of the 700 people at gatherings ( which most of them are). I would love to
protest against your views, but i have a job. Which I won't take the time of my day for you.
Prediction: this post gets deleted, just like my other one.
you obviously will take the time of day, since you wrote that
if don't agree with whats being posted be mature and say something constructive, not just fuck you, or whatever
the shut down and seizeing of raise the fist effects all of us, even if you don't want to admit it, or do anything about it
we have the right to freedom of speech
we have the right to disagree with the govt.
we have the right to change the govt. whenwe feel its needed
its in the constitution
"if we don't take action now, we settle for nothing later"
i say everyone who thinks that the govt. actions towards raise the fist is wrong, sends the story to 5 people and then encourage them to send it to 5 people
becuase the mass media is not saying a word about it
i heard it from Che-lives
but if we get the word out and let people know that our rights are being exploited
a crusade can start
From the first post to the last, the topic kinda wandered around. If one sticks with the facts and Sherman Austin and his original website, and what can be understood from the internet's news, that seems to leave some people with major foul-mouthed opinions in the dark. It's pretty easy to find out about all of the charges against this man and what crimes he may stand trial for. I personally would like to know how to support the man. He's facing an uphill battle with legal fees and such. Since he has been thrown into the spotlight, any opinion is an opinion and means nothing. Let's hear what he has to say
One doesn't have to agree with everything or anything the guy had to say, just that he had the complete right to say it and thus should be defended. As should those sites others deem contrary to their political views. Sites such as those that are derogatory and racist, or sites that are revolutionary and leftist. Either way they have a right to speak their mind.
Regards-
http://www.folkandfaith.com