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Amerikkkan Flag Burning: July 4th
a group of people held an annual tradition of burning the amerikkkan flag in people's park in berkeley. cops were present to videotape those who attended the flag burning.

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WORD TO YOUR MOTHER$#@%^& !!!!!!!!
My first reaction is that on the next Fourth of July, I'd really like to be down there at People's Park with a baseball bat.
I'd wager that very few of the people who participated in that event actually had a well thought out philisophical reason for doing this. In fact, I'd wager that the majority of people present were mindless shitheads who had nothing better to do and thought it would be cool to stir up some shit. You assholes are not revolutionaries. Want to be revolutionary? Come try that shit in some location that's not so safe. Someplace where there won't be cops present to arrest people like me who are running amuck beating douchebags like you.
To those of you who genuinely think that burning the American flag is the way to make your point... please think again. You aren't just making a statement about American war atrocities, civil rights, etc... You're also shitting on the heads of people who love this country and love the righteous things about our country which that flag represents. It's such a blatant "Fuck You!!" that whatever else your message may be, it's lost on deaf ears believe me.
now reese, think really hard. why dont you see this as nationalist patriotic fascism??
you think that no one thought out their position but that's what we think about you. how could someone who supposedly loves freedom be so angered by people exercising theirs? or maybe it isn't freedom you love, it is just the red white and blue just like all loyal robot disciples are trained to love the flag and not what it stands for.
Come to Belgium to burn flags... You can choose 'à la carte': the Flemish flag, the Belgian flag, the European flag, etcetera....
For us - little shrimps from Belgium and other European states - flagburning is more a tradition and is not connected with your patriot feelings...
The 300.000 green cards that people outside the states past years could win by the U.S.A. federal-lottery are not so superb that you can write to your mother 'bout them...
In the U.S.A. the poverty, social exclusion, racial discrimination and social injustice is much worse than in Europe...
Think again mamma!
Kindly greetings,
Martin, Gent-BELGIUM
I've read your sick comment 'bout the flagburning... So you'll be next time in Berkeley-park with your base-ball stick? HAHAHA! LOL :))
Visit Belgium next time instead of Berkeley...
And we'll (me, myself and I; the Maroccan and Turk youngsters, the Chinese and other ones, etcetera) be here with what you couldn't dream of in your most dangerous nightmares... LOL :))
F#@K YOU NAZI-PATRIOTIC-PIG-THUG-MISTER-REECE
Greetings, Martin-Gent-BELGIUM
Note:
go backpacked to the redwoods or another nice piece of nature in California and cool down! And, why not, re-flect 'bout the stupid, violent, intimidating words you've spread. You need some selfreflection Reece!
SMACK THE 'AMERIKKAN' MAC
http://WWW.MCSPOTLIGHT.ORG
F#@K YOURSELF!
Kind antiracist, antispecieist, antihomophobia, antigreed, antiageist, profeminist, pacifist greetings,
Martin, Gent-Belgium
Reese:
"on the next Fourth of July, I'd really like to be down there at People's Park with a baseball bat."
Translation:
People who express opinions to which I am opposed should be brutally beaten. Not only do I wholeheartedly support violent suppression of personal speech, I'd like to be part of the mob.
Analysis/Response:
Good job, Reese. I get all tingly inside to know that there are patriots like you -- people who have the courage to stand up and openly support blatant violations of state and federal law, not merely as acts in and of themselves, but in order that you might prevent others from being able to express unpopular views. You truly are a freedom-loving American, aren't you?
Reese:
"I'd wager that very few of the people who participated in that event actually had a well thought out philisophical [sic] reason for doing this."
Analysis/Response:
If you like, Reese, I'm sure there are some folks in Vegas who'd be quite happy to take your money on a bet like that. Do you *really* think people just randomly burn US flags for shits & giggles? Just to annoy their neighbors? And the fact that it occurred on July 4th, that was just a coincidence, yeah?
Reese:
"Come try that shit [burning a US flag] in some location that's not so safe. Someplace where there won't be cops present to arrest people like me who are running amuck beating douchebags like you."
Translation:
My masturbatory fantasy begins with you arriving, unaware, at my secret area where I usually bring my victims.
Analysis/Response:
The "douchebags" reference alone is so rich, and plays on so many levels... I don't have enough time go there today...
Reese:
"[B]urning the American flag [sic] is [not] just making a statement about American war atrocities, civil rights, etc... [it also offends] people who love this country and love the righteous things about our country which that flag represents."
Translation:
Domestic fascists, such as myself, don't like it when you point out the long and ongoing history of torture, slavery and genocide for which the government is responsible. We would prefer to bask in the opiated illusion of US infallibility.
Analysis/Response:
It's amazing how you can see the truth, yet still not understand it. Though I can't speak for the person(s) who engaged in this act, I suspect that the desired effect was not merely to point out US atrocities, but also to evoke a response from obediant flag-saluters. (You got played.) BTW, there is no "American" flag.
Reese:
"...your message [is] lost on deaf ears..."
Response/Analysis:
The message that might be relayed by the act of burning a US flag is one that likely will not be understood by persons whose minds have been overly burdened/damaged by Dominator ideology. But messages need not be targeted at the largest available audience. The "value" of the act need not be measured by the quality of the message it sends, nor by the audience it targets, for it need not have an audience, at all; it may be sufficient that it provided the actor with a momentary sense of liberation and autonomy.
INTERIM CONCLUSIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS:
Subject R, after an extended series of forcible administrations of: 1) self-hating dogmatic religion, and 2)unquestioning nationalism, began to exhibit overt signs of cognitive dysfunction and hyperaggressive territoriality.
Recommendation is for immediate termination of controlled experiment and an unwavering rejection of ANY further use of items 1 and/or 2. These items have been classified as having NO POSITIVE SOCIETAL VALUE.
Numerous strains have been identified globally, with several particularly virulent forms active in the local bioregion. Primary vectors are churches, schools and television, with innumerable secondary vectors.
Recommend radical approach involving all cooperating organizations, with emphasis upon rapid distribution of broad-spectrum vaccines, persistent empathogens, and cooptation-resistant memes.
David H. Stout, 49, remained in jail Tuesday night, a day after Judge Wayne Sturtevant lowered his bond to $2,000 from $9,000. Stout has been in jail since his Sept. 30 arrest on misdemeanor charges of flag desecration and resisting law enforcement.
Indiana is among 48 states that still have laws against flag desecration, despite repeated rulings by the U.S. Supreme Court that flag-burning is an exercise of constitutionally protected free speech.
Stout is accused of resisting police officers called to investigate a complaint that he was burning a flag in an alley behind his home.
Defense attorney David Thomas has asked for a jury trial, but a trial date has not been set."
that was taken from a website i visited earlier tonight, thats not right, i am sick of this country and all of its regulated freedoms, you say that people sneak over here from mexico every day just to live her, why do youa assume that htis is true, jsut because someoen told you?
As burning a cross is a form of "speach".
Burning the US flag is "speach".
Imagine these mother fuckers at a party.
It would be fun to watch them try to get laid.
Do these people have children ?
Someones god imagine being the cross burners kid.
Imagine playing baseball with the flag burners kid.
Imagine parents day as the flag and cross burners kids.
Little Johnnie gets expelled for using the N word.
Little Betty paints graffiti on the pull down world map.
Look. I hate religion as much as the next guy.
But I dont burn the crucifix.
I hate violent racist more than anyone.
But I aint going to burn down your woodstock.
Be kind. Your god damn.
Peace all.
Patriotic Americans insure future opportunities for broader peace, freedom, liberty in the world.
If someone shoots and kills your mother, is it a good thing because it raises the gun subject at your dinner table ?
Inspiring hope for peace/security/health the flag is just a symbol. But so is your last name.
Peace all
I wanted to disclaim my nationality and affirm my humanity.
I saw pictures of my grandfather as a soldier in WWII, in the German army, under the swastica. I dedided nationalism, particularly in aggressive and militaristic cultures is something I want nothing to do with.
Those who got erect at the site of the flag tended to have the exact opposite values as myself: they support war with any reason the government gives them, executions, incarceration as a panacea to social problems and in general, the narrow, racist and imperial aspects of this country.
To demonstrate my commitment to freedom of speech, assembly and association.
To destroy any possibility of running for "higher office."
I realized my country was the most aggressive invader in the world. That my flag was a symbol of domination to billions.
And lastly, to piss off jack-offs like the guys who got all heated here. And if you want to come down to People's Park - I'll be there.
I got into a similar fight in NYC with fascist skinheads in Washington Square. The police didn't protect us, but in fact arrested those the skinheads beat. The skinheads chanted "burn fags, not flags." They almost proved our point for us.
The USA flag is much more mainstream. Most people associate it with holidays, fireworks, and used cars.
Symbolism is very important to people and an emotional issue, as comments to this photo can attest.
I agree with the italian dude. brulez tous les drapeaux!
peace
Next July I think they should bring some confederate flags because otherwise it all gets a bit passe. There are too many people on the west coast (usually a bit outside of the bay area) who still have confederate flags all over their trucks. My parents neighbors fly them from their house. Personally I wouldn't burn any flag.
and fuck the united piss of america
!!!!!
i'm gonna burn the "USAPATRIOT" Act
cuz I LOVE THIS COUNTRY!
EXCERCISE FREE SPEECH!
thank you indymedia SF for providing this forum
Either way, flag burning is hate speech, and while I'm on the subject, happy Independence Day to all you: faggots, tar babies, kikes, spics, towelheads, sand niggers, and honkeys. These words should have the same protection as your flag burning.
As a Vietnam era veteran, I applaud anyone who confronts the corporate-corrupted lie our government has become. As we celebrate the revolution of 1776, let's remember that we were supposedly throwing off the shackles of economic tyranny -- an idea whose time has come again.
The War of Independence was fought mainly because of taxation, as in "taxation without representation." Colonists who were upset with that the British government had no limit to the type and amount of taxes they could impose upon them and that they had no legal recourse, they had not one reprensentative in Parliment. This naturally led to the question, are we then still citizens of England?
The homeless have representation: they have city councilpersons, mayors, state and federal representatives, state and federal senators, presidents, etc. Furthermore, they are entitled to unemployment benefits, housing subsidies, loan guarantees, etc. (providing they meet rather generous requirements). Lastly, they have access to all of this WITHOUT paying taxes! (that's an assumption on my part, but I feel it's a rational deduction).
There are also many non-governmental program, charities, and caring individuals you help the homeless. The fact you are not reporting is that many times the homeless have deep seeded problems with addicition and/or mental illness that can not be easily fixed with free food and shelter. And it does not help the plight of the homeless to marginalize this issue.
No, the world is not fair or perfect, but a homeless person is still a person, and therefore must accept at least some responsibility for the choices they make in their life and the consequences thereof.
If you are so set on American patriotism don't you think it can survive a flag burning?
2) local government is beholden to no-one as much as the downtown business interests fund fund Willie Brown's political machine candidates through "soft money" contributions.
3) for every homeless person who got that way as a result of mental illness or substance abuse, there's another who turned to drugs or manifested symptoms of mental illness trying to cope with the dispair of becoming a non-citizen in their country of origin. charity will never solve homelessness -- it's an issue of social justice.
4) everyone pays sales taxes, even homeless people. but it would seem that many feel that they are entitled to fewer and different civil rights than the rest of America.
5) blaming homeless people for their situation through the jingoist device of "personal responsibility" is a scam. our current homeless crisis is far more informed by the results of welfare reform and the fact that the federal government subsidizes the real estate industry by cutting affordable housing funds by more than $28 BILLION a year less than in pre-Reagan years.
personally, I can't figure out which is more revolting -- your ignorance or your arrogance.
Drug dealers are not the problem, the fact that all we can do is "declare war" on drugs is rediculous. Campaign stump speaches from both democrats and republicans refuse to address real issues and are peppered with hypocracy.
I guess the homeless are free from all responsibility but any governement official or citizen you disprove of is not?
I have to say that I don't understand the logic. Would you mind briefly pointing out who has to accept responsibility for their actions who does not.
Bah!! Responsibility is more foreign to those in power than those on the streets.
"No one chooses to be homeless, they shoulder much of the responsibility, but not all of it." -- You do realize that is essentially what I said?
To use your logic, if some people don't obey laws, then we shouldn't have laws. If some people don't respect other people, or nature, or the world, then we shouldn't have people.
I think you are one of those people who choose only to see the bad in life -- that everything everybody does is wrong, and nothing is ever right. How old are you?
Second => A pesimistic view of our social system does not mean that my critique is wrong
I think you were saying that the homless should not rely on social programs to fix their problems because they are soley(sp?) responsible. I am saying that is NOT true.
Reason one => No one wishes to be homeless. Homeless people don't brag about how free they are to do what they want. I will guarantee you that many of them would do anything to not be homeless anymore, but they have no incentive. With no place to live they cannot go finish school, work in anything but the most menial occupation, or even make friends. Working your way from homlesness to middle class is impossible because of the lack of social programs that exist.
Reason Two => Lack of effective social programs is due to greedy politicians. In order to win votes all american politicians must pander to the middle class. Therefore issues in campaigns are tax cuts, family values and middle-class jobs. No focus is put on the poor because they do not vote, have the time or schooling to interpret politics, nor think that their vote will do any good. So those that are poor and homeless have little power, no political drive and not enough education to know they should have and demand the previous 2.
Reason 3 => This really isn't a reason why they shouldn't have responsibility, more of a reason why those with more power should display more responsibility. Yes, I think it is bad if someone doesn't want to work. I think that PALES in comparison to some of the lies the government and corporate leaders have told us. I am sorry that you think homless people are to blame for them selves. However, the uneven distrobution of wealth in this country and the world over IS responsible for poverty. I can already see your argument "well those that have money earned it." WRONG. That is a poor and missleading assumption. Those in power cheat lie, steal and help their friends in order to stay in power. They keep the wealth through an unequal means that normal people have no access too.
So in conclusion => we are all responsible for our fates, yet those that have less are less responsible because they have less control. So I do, and think we all should, hold those with more money and more control more at fault for the problems of this country.
What?
Try rereading this statement I made. Here, I'll make it a little easier on you:
"The fact you are not reporting is that many times the homeless have deep seeded problems with addicition and/or mental illness that can not be easily fixed with free food and shelter. And it does not help the plight of the homeless to marginalize this issue."
Social programs don't change people, but they can give them opportunities. Sometimes we don't have the answers, we don't know how to help those who refuse to be helped. But they are human beings, and all human beings have to accept some responisibility for the choices they make.
You understand the meaning of the word "some", yes?
Human beings don't always do what is best for them, or necessarily even understand what would be best.
Did you used to go by the name 'jon' on this forum?
You and 'jon' have the same constipated, tediously literal, "i'm educated but i've never treaded into the deep waters" quality.
By the way, many homeless people work. Not only do many of the homeless CURRENTLY pay sales taxes and income taxes, but most also paid into the system for years prior to losing shelter. Quite a few are vets of imperialist entanglements of the type that you're inclined to idly cheer from a comfortable distance.
There are a lot of people who are homeless and you wouldn't know it looking at them, because they don't fit the sterotype. Most are too overwhelmed to think much of politics, but to the degree they do, they certainly don't share your 'works for meisms'
remember this: "power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely"
They arent breaking any laws. They seem to be having a good time. Are they afraid there moms might see them playing with fire ? I dont get it .
If anyone can give me an accurate uncluttered answer , please do.
Sorry to reply a day later. No, I do not post as Jon or anyone else. I'm not ashamed of my opinions and do not need to hide under another monicker.
You are a bunch of fucking anti-american crybaby losers that will never accomplish jack shit. Go fucking kill yourselves. I wish you faggots would come burn a flag in my city, you'd be lucky to get out alive.
I hope you all rot in hell you lousy sons-of-bitches.
Translation: Freedom of speech and the right to expression is A-okay as long as it doesn't get in the way of the indybay agenda.
throwin' the niggers back in chains and havin' 'em pick my cotton would be a good thing
...then you do not understand the definition of Free Speach--there is no qualification based on the presumed quality of content. Perhaps a reading of the Constitution or historical Supreme Court decisions might shed some light on the subject for you.
There were, of course, good things about the American revolution and the constitution. It broke the yoke of feudalism, for instance. But, lets be clear that democracy under capitalism is a sham.
"So, when the Left tries to shut down, shout down or limit the voices of the Right, it's actually a good thing. It needs to happen. It's not hypocritical."
Any time a group tries to enforce it's will over another through the use of force, "running them off the streets" as you put it, in my opinion that is characteristic of fascism. I fail to see your logic and your reluctance to discuss it proves my point.
I only recently found out that the site is an avowed proponent of Anarachism, Anti-Captialsim, and Anti-Globalism, and if you're not in complete agreement, then you will be labeled a right-winger and never honestly considered to be an activist.
Unless you have a penchant for argument, abuse, or this specific agenda, I don't think you'll last long.
And your analysis that biology is the reason behind fascism reeks of racism as well. So now you are guilty of fascism and racism, characteristics most claim to detest. But I support your right to discuss it publicly, because I advocate free speech.
"If we fail to exterminate them, sooner or later, they will kill us."
Who exactly? Be specific.
"Explain to me why we should allow ourselves to be killed, humanity enslaved and the biosphere raped, just so we can avoid using force."
Boy, you've really twisted what I attempted to say. All I said was that it is wrong to use force to keep people silent. It's fine to use force to defend against force. But using force against imaginary, perceived force is delusional and a characteristic of madness.
And anyone can post a bunch of anti-racist group link and claim to have made a point.
You have this diamond-shaped symbol divided into four parts surrounded by the words "socialism, autonomy, statism, & capatilism" and inside you have listed "anarchism, marxism, liberalism, & fascism". It's really cute & sweet & precious and all. I don't know who drew it up. I don't care. It's propaganda. That's all it is: propaganda. It a symbol that suits your needs in order to reinforce what you believe. All movements have their propaganda, this is one of yours. Defining "fascism" in this manner is just a subset of this propaganda. But outside your "group" or "collective" or whatever you want to call yourselves, it holds no meaning.
I fully expect you to use your propaganda. What's the point of having it if you can't use it? Propaganda can be used to make one feel superior, a rallying point, a battle cry. In this case, it turns truth on its head. But, that's not a new trick for propaganda. Hard to try and form a revolution without redefining some terms here and there. Propaganda for propaganda's sake!
Not much in the line of valid arguments have been thrown at me so far though. Let’s see, I was told that rich, white slave owners wrote the constitution and therefore it is a fascist document. I was told that fascism is biological, but even though it is inherent to the white slave owner document it’s not racist to think that. I was told that by considering myself non-partisan that I’m part of the problem. But I was told that it wasn’t liberals that were burning the above flag, so it’s not that party that I should affiliate myself with and obviously I shouldn’t be part of the right. Hmm Che, this leads me to ask what party you belong to?? If you’re not on the left and you’re not on the right, that’s non-partisan. And guess what??
“That's actually a dodge. By trying to be "neutral" or "non partisan" you are actually supporting, consciously or unconsciously, the status quo.”
So it seems there’s nothing to be gained from chatting with these lunatics. They’ll continue to burn their flags for imaginary reasons to thwart imaginary villains. In short, I’d say they’re insane!
And I'm glad you exposed yourself for being an apologist for racism and capitalism. Good job.
But now you've exposed yourself as being a liar. So it IS the liberals burning the flag!
If the best you can do is to hurl names, your causes will never have any chance. America will always win, and all you'll be able to do is whine about it and throw tantrums. Occasionally, you'll burn a flag to try to get some attention, but no one will care.
I am done with you, you whining, sniveling, pompous asshole!
And most liberals are not a part of the Left. Some of them are and they are good activists and genuinely see why people should break with the Democrats. But most fail to see why supporting the Democrats don't get you anywhere and have too much faith in the system. You don't understand the Left. That's not my problem. You're either a yuppie, an economics professor, or a middle aged, affluent white man. I dont care about you.
Think about that if you think you are making a statment against facism.
Eggy, not everyone is a big, bad Chomsky reading economics major from the "hood" like you are! Go burn your flags and cuss capitalism with your dorm room buddies lil eggster. It sho be dah kewl thing tah do in dah hood dees days, ain't it?
Personally, I'm not that impressed by flag-burning. If flags are gonna burn, I'm for burning all of them.
That said, I suggest you read "American Power and the New Mandarins" by Chomsky. Put down the Louis L'Amour and get to it, jack-ass.
He prefers exciting imbecility.
Just imagine Chomsky and Coulter in debate.
Chomsky would KO that witless bitch in the first round.
And yes, it is interesting that the faces are masked in the picture. The exception is the girl (apparently about 18-23, going on 8) in the background with the little, "oh gosh, aren't I being bad" grin on her face. Her parents must be so proud. But then, pissing off her parents would be part of the allure of attending such a "protest." I was that age once, too, and pissing off the 'rents was always fun. I, however, never spat on myself in the process, nor did I intentionally try (weakly as she did notwithstanding) to offend millions in the process, especially while simultaneously railing against any piddling little perceived offensiveness against some small, thin-skinned, hyper-sensitive minority. (Look up the word "minority" before you predictably rant about racism/sexism, or whatever other "ism" you're currently masturbating over--feminism comes to mind.)
And yes, it is interesting that the faces are masked in the picture. The exception is the girl (apparently about 18-23, going on 8) in the background with the little, "oh gosh, aren't I being bad" grin on her face. Her parents must be so proud. But then, pissing off her parents would be part of the allure of attending such a "protest." I was that age once, too, and pissing off the 'rents was always fun. I, however, never spat on myself in the process, nor did I intentionally try (weakly as she did notwithstanding) to offend millions in the process, especially while simultaneously railing against any piddling little perceived offensiveness against some small, thin-skinned, hyper-sensitive minority. (Look up the word "minority" before you predictably rant about racism/sexism, or whatever other "ism" you're currently masturbating over--feminism comes to mind.)
dumb all over, near and far
dumb all over, black & white
...people we is not wrapped tight.
If there are countries where they hang people for burning a flag (provide a list please) . . . you fuckin' go there! This is a free country, or we're trying to be in spite of jingoistic, ignorant fuckheads like yourselves. People have fought and died for freedoms and each other, not a fucking scrap-of-cloth symbol. Any fucking country in the world can have a flag, it's civil liberties and freedoms that matter, and the freedom to disagree with the government. I'm tired of ignorant right wing thugs like yourselves shitting on my country! You're tearing this country apart! Got a problem with freedoms? Too stupid and ignorant to know when you're being manipulated? Get the fuck out of my country! Now! Get out! Fucking pigs!
the movie about the Revolutionary war:
THE PATRIOT, (Mel Gibson)
or SAVING PRIVATE RYAN, (Tom Hanks) about W.W. II
Understand:
What MANY sacrificed for America to be born, and to be preserved so YOU could be free to write this, so YOU could have blue skies, green grass, and freedom
to believe as you wish
Go:
to another country to live if you don't like it here, and see how they treat you
Honor:
my dad, and all like him, who served his country well
in the U.S. Armed Forces
Get:
A clue
Death to fucking hollywood as well....yet more fucking amerikkan garbage that seems to envade any other country that they damn well please!!!!!!!!!!! To film their fucking corrupt goddamn trashy films.......**watch out, here comes a massive NUKE!!!** oh...one more thing....ALL OF YOU RICH MOTHERFUCKING HOLLYWOOD DRUGGIES, WHORES,PIMPS, SEXUAL ASSAULTANTS TO LITTLE KIDS,FUCKING NIGGER FOOTBALL PLAYERS, SPORTS PEOPLE THAT NEED A DEATH SENTENCE,AMERIKKAN PIG DIRECTORS,LIKE STEVEN SPIELBERG...WHO IN SAVING PRIVATE RYAN, DID FUCKING NOT PORTRAY THE BRITISH TROOPS WHO FOUGHT AT THE BEACH OF NORMANDY!!!!!! ONLY THE FUCKING AMERIKKANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!***NEED TO GET YOUR GODDAMN FILTHY AMERIKKAN TRASHY ASSSSSSS OUT OF THE BRITISH WEST INDIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*** IF YOU HAVE ANY FUCKING BRAINS....CONSIDERING THAT THEY ARE SOME OF THE MOST GODDAMN DUMBEST MOTHERFUCKERS ON THIS EARTH!!!!........WELL WHAT DO YOU FUCKING EXPECT........THEY DIDN'T EVEN PASS PRE-SCHOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HA HA HA HA KEEP YOUR AMERIKKAN RICH FUCKING TRASH OUT OF OUR *TERRITORIES*!! *WE* TRY TO KEEP *OUR* COUNTRY AND TERRITORIES CLEAN....NOT RIDDEN WITH FILTH AND CORRUPTION LIKE *YOURS*
Would it be racist to burn a Red-Black-Green African-American flag ?? Or a flag with a crescent moon on it to protest the actions of Radical Muslim clerics worldwide..
I am not condoning these kinds of things....but I do support the right of people to burn the flag if the motive is true..that is, it is done as a form of protest..
But I get the feeling that there are large numbers of America-haters in this country that really just like to do it to push other peoples buttons . Andif they had their druthers, they would burn a flag 2 or 3 times a day. Same idiots that defaced the memorials that sprang up after 9/11..no constructive actions or ideas..just hate...
In All Our Decadence, Millions Suffer. They Call It Progress.
We Burn that Flag of Values Sworn in the Name of Those who suffer under the tyranny of the American empire.
Fuck the Flag and the Imperialist Nation it has always represented.